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Been watching the last one closely and feel like playing Been a while. | ||
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Also, it'd be nice if people wouldn't throw about insults as much. We're playing a friendly game of mafia, guys. Nothing personal, just business. | ||
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I don't know how detailed the tracker will get his results, but this seems like the best plan to get a blue circle so far. The framer could make the person we're observing look like mafia, but that would only seem detrimental to me. Either the person that gets framed will show up having no hits (in which case we know he's not a real mafia), or the person sending in the hitlist will be shown in which case we have a sure mafia. | ||
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On August 10 2010 01:55 rastaban wrote: Thanks, I was confused for a moment, Bum you are correct, only way foolishness could be mafia is if he is GF. I don't see why the only way Foolishness could be mafia is if he was the godfather. On day 1 we instructed all DT's to check XeliN for the purpose of establishing a town circle, so they wouldn't be able to check Foolishness. Also, on later days, he can claim to be framed so he doesn't need to be a godfather at all. If anything, it's less likely that he is one given all the attention he is vesting on himself. He could just be normal scum that managed to attract a bunch of town affliated roles to think he is innocent. Definitely not all the people defending him are scum, so the mafia wouldn't risk too much with it. That said, I am not convinced he is mafia just yet. The veteran possibility is still strong. Ninja seems unlikely given the amount of attention he drawed. This would be something a ninja would absolutely not want to do, so I find that unlikely. Bill Murray's play seems very inconsistent so far, and I would agree with Pyrrhuloxia that there's a good chance of him being scum. The plan of mass roleclaiming without certainty of innocence to a 'reliable' person seems like way too big of a risk to take seriously. The only time we should do this is when we have a 100% confirmed townie, or very close to it. People shouldn't just be sending their roles out to everyone. For me, BM is the best candidate so far. | ||
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On August 10 2010 02:44 Divinek wrote: and therrrrre's artanis' one post for the day/night cycle down! I prefer to make a small amount of posts with content in contrast to shitting up the thread with pointless oneliners. I could start mindlessly accusing people if you prefer though. | ||
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On August 10 2010 03:09 bumatlarge wrote: Artanis, this is the only plausible plan for scum to put foolish as a reg mafia is if when a watcher and DT check, watcher would assume the DT is framer or foolish is red. As watcher I would push foolish, if not claim, because then watcher can get a confirmed DT, or confirmed framer. The watcher would then get priority med protection while foolish gets lynched OR framer still frames foolish even when hes scum, and he would get himself killed, while the framer would have to fake a active blue role the rest of the game. Both the framer and DT would be unknown to each other andif framer doesnt claim DT he would be lynched before the DT. If he does claim DT, watcher can confuse either by asking them to check each other or a random person. The framer would have to guess DT, while the DT checks normally regardless of who it is. Likelihood of 3 DTs is very small, so watcher would point at the liar, netting 2 scum and keeping the DT safe. I see no reason for foolish to not choose GF, as he only sacrifices himself for towny confusion if he isnt lynched immediately. If watcher, DT and framer all target foolish, then previous situation, assuming framer overrides GF.Other blues would have to not act, and multiple watchers or DTs would not hinder the situation. I think... it might be better to try with BB, because its assumed GF picks veteran? if foolish is a vet or GF, then the probability of BB being a more unique role without being GF increases the likelihood of his innocence. The more people who put themselves forward in situations that would require the GF role get away with, the better the chances that one of them are legitimate. Is this logic sound? My head hurts someone else think for me. This post makes my head hurt too, but if I understand correctly you're saying he can't be reg mafia since he might be checked on Day 2 by a combination of DT/watcher? This would require a lot of town organisation and the small gambit in the early game might work to create enough town confusion as well as get a lot of information about possible blues whilst not sacrificing the GF role early to a player likely to be lynched in the near future. Also, the framer thing would take an additional day in which we could have possibly lynched an innocent and have gotten the mafia more time. To be certain of if someone is red or not, we'd have to use the watcher and the dt on the same person, and even then we're not sure if it was just the framer that made him look red or if he actually is red. The person visiting the checked player could also be a nosy neighbour not being aware of his role, so he wouldn't need to claim blue. Also, I'm starting to confuse myself. | ||
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I haven't made that many posts because I often don't know what to say, but when I do post I try to make it structured and give a clear direction to the town. I've also tried to keep up with the thread which is difficult sometimes as it requires not only reading the previous 10 pages, but linking it with the 60 before and coming up with a conclusion based on that. There is a lot of information available which is difficult. Also, whilst Pyrry seems to have made a few mistakes, he does appear to be town aligned to me. Same goes with bumatlarge as they have asked a bunch of questions about the plans and have pushed LSB's initial plan. Furthermore, at this point we pretty much have to assume XeliN is legit since otherwise a DT should have spoken out by now given how important it is to town. A tracker should have spoken out by now then too, yet no one seems to question his town allegiance with direct accusations. Whether XeliN is mafia or not is worth a roleclaim by a detective at this point in my eyes. There's always the possibility of godfather, but that's a pretty small chance and we'd be pretty fucked already. The whole Foolishness/Bill Murray thing seems to have faded a bit. The best course of action seems to be to double lynch BM/youngminii tomorrow as it'll give us the most information regarding the allegiances of people. | ||
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