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On August 12 2010 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: Well doesnt he have blue roles? We should be able to see from tonight if hes mafia. What? If the blues die? But how do we know it wasn't a leak, then? There have been at least 2 blues claim in thread. Besides, even if he's mafia they would probably wait and maybe even sac one of their own at this point since he could lead us around anywhere. He has claimed that he is confirmed to a lot of people... I guess they don't want to post anything in the thread because they are blue? But I keep saying that I see no possible way he can be confirmed to so many people or have so many people be confirmed to him and yet no one even tries to point out why I am wrong.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Mafia:
youngminii: activity is vastly different from when he's been town aligned the past two games. Slipped up when accused.
infundibulum: Passive play compared to his norm. Also seems to show up at very convenient times, and defended himself from my post even though there was no pressure on him (and thus he could've just ignored me and moved on). Wishywashy in attitude.
Maybe mafia:
bumatlarge: Really bad posts. Has connection to pyrry which is strange.
Artanis[XP]: Typical inactive mafia.
Hesmyrr: bad posts and very wishywashy. Weird impression overall.
People to look out for in the future:
Chezinu: I know he claimed tracker but so have 3 other players. And he fits in with youngminii. Still hard to say though.
Pyrry: Nobody cold be this bad as town.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
TL Mafia XXX: Start of Day 3
There will always be complications to the plan. We came here knowing fully that all of us may not make it back alive, and we face death willingly. There are others in this city that stalk the night; we are not the only power that kills. During this night, we are prepared to lose one of our own. tree.hugger the Mafia Framer leaves us tonight, as do four members of the town: Divinek, Roffles, and zeks the Townies and DarthThienAn the Tracker. The quest goes on, and even in death we shall not be stopped.
Divinek, Roffles, and zeks the Townies are now dead. tree.hugger the Mafia Framer is now dead. DarthThienAn the Tracker is now dead.
It is now Day 3, and will be so for the next 47 hours and 59 minutes.
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</3
I hate you all
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Dammit why couldn't you guys have killed me.
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ohhh shit. At least framer is dead...
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Wait, you're putting me as likelier to be mafia then someone like Roffles or larjarse, the first being even less active then I have and throwing random mafia claims, and the latter having made even more useless posts then Divinek? Err..
I haven't made that many posts because I often don't know what to say, but when I do post I try to make it structured and give a clear direction to the town. I've also tried to keep up with the thread which is difficult sometimes as it requires not only reading the previous 10 pages, but linking it with the 60 before and coming up with a conclusion based on that. There is a lot of information available which is difficult.
Also, whilst Pyrry seems to have made a few mistakes, he does appear to be town aligned to me. Same goes with bumatlarge as they have asked a bunch of questions about the plans and have pushed LSB's initial plan.
Furthermore, at this point we pretty much have to assume XeliN is legit since otherwise a DT should have spoken out by now given how important it is to town. A tracker should have spoken out by now then too, yet no one seems to question his town allegiance with direct accusations. Whether XeliN is mafia or not is worth a roleclaim by a detective at this point in my eyes. There's always the possibility of godfather, but that's a pretty small chance and we'd be pretty fucked already.
The whole Foolishness/Bill Murray thing seems to have faded a bit. The best course of action seems to be to double lynch BM/youngminii tomorrow as it'll give us the most information regarding the allegiances of people.
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And just as I post that, day post comes up and Roffles and Divinek die >_>. Time to analyze the posts of the dead.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
youngminii is mafia
Outside the original arguments of his differing attitude from his previous town-aligned games, new developments have surfaced.
On August 11 2010 09:06 youngminii wrote: .........................sigh
Remind me not to sign up for these games unless I have 24/7 access and time because apparently my previous style of posting dictates that I must always be spamming the thread. Maybe I should just fall into a semi-inactive style like half the town so that I won't be lynched based on these things. I wouldn't expect normal egotistical youngminii to respond with something like this. Where's the hate? Where's the attacks on my intelligence?
On August 11 2010 09:30 youngminii wrote: What the fuck Pandain, are you kidding me? Why don't YOU go back and read my counter arguments? All foolishness did was ignore them while saying "I didn't contribute anything" along with Divinek. Why do you think I'm voting for foolishness? Yeah I tried to give an argument and no one listens, then I go afk for about half a day and suddenly people like you are saying I haven't done anything nor responded. Okay now we got the expected response out of him. Except it's against Pandain and not me. Remember when I first accused him he went ballistic on me for quite some time, post after post about how I'm the GF and I need to be lynch even though he "doesn't get red vibes from me".
youngminii returns to the thread but ignores all my accusations against him, without properly defending himself (without defending himself at all really). The sole base for his defense is that he's busy in real life and afk a lot. While it may be true, he's still clearly around a lot since he has time to switch votes, and post stuff like:
On August 11 2010 10:22 youngminii wrote: Happy Birthday Divinek! Not to mention even though he's posting a lot less, the content is much further reduced compared to his normal games. I'd expect some posts with good content or analysis (which we know he's very capable of doing) but he hasn't provided any.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:20 tree.hugger wrote:Whew. That was a workout. People have a habit of reading a ton of pages and criticizing everyone below them for spam, but actually there's some interesting stuff. There's this YM, Foolishness debate going on, and meanwhile we have votes sitting on Bill Murray? A ton of people have listed Foolishness as one of their most suspicious players, so why not vote for him? That's strange. About YM. I'm convinced on Foolishness, and for the most part, I buy his argument on youngminii. He played the first day really oddly, and I can see IRL issues, but then the second day he's played it differently as well. I dunno, more angry. Remember what I told you last game? Cool your jets. Going to hold off on a vote for him at the moment, just on principle, really, but I think he's far and away our best candidate. Although we keep allowing Artanis[xp] to get away with posting nothing. Thankfully there's no suicide bomber this game, so it shouldn't hurt us too much to leave him alone... for the moment. Might be a ninja? So much for candidates at the moment. There was a thing I wanted to address... Show nested quote +On August 09 2010 16:20 DarthThienAn wrote:On August 09 2010 16:17 Divinek wrote: the rb didnt rb xelin because he role blocked bb Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I was mostly trying to go through all of the possibilities that mattered. I think we're forgetting about this. Someone took a hit last night, AND someone was roleblocked. And we have no competing claims on either. Now, is it *possible* that the mafia would stack kills on chaoser or LSB to "confirm" Foolishness? I guess, but it's pretty silly, knowing that the medics were not supposed to protect any of them, and why would they protect either of those players anyway? But the mafia not roleblocking to confirm someone? The mafia not roleblocking on Day 1 with a devastating town plan in action? That seems really unlikely. I think we should try to confirm BrownBear and Foolishness tonight. If we can do that, then it doesn't matter how LSB's plan didn't work out, because we've got confirmed townies. We had this situation last game, and we didn't do anything with it. Let's not make this mistake again, yes? I'd like to mention in PM convo I had with tree hugger he was very willing to lynch youngminii. Which is saying something since hardly anyone believes me so far.
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I'm not going to quote all tree.hugger's posts, but he seemed to be heavily pushing the youngminii wagon and pushing against the BM wagon. This leads me to believe youngminii is most likely innocent since there was a very big chance of said person getting lynched. Also, this puts BM in a bad spotlight.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm not going to quote all tree.hugger's posts, but he seemed to be heavily pushing the youngminii wagon and pushing against the BM wagon. This leads me to believe youngminii is most likely innocent since there was a very big chance of said person getting lynched. Also, this puts BM in a bad spotlight. You got it backwards, he wasn't pushing the youngminii lynch very hard, he was just going along with it. There's a big difference.
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I was role blocked last night guys
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Well this seems a little off to me:
On August 11 2010 11:24 tree.hugger wrote: ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
I get back, and some garbage wagon on Pandain is what comes up? I thought I was reading a different game. This sets a new record for shoddy town play.
If Pandain were ninja, stands to reason he'd act like mafia, in spreading some deception around. But would mafia claim ninja? That's the dumbest strategy I've ever heard. Because mafia would obviously put a huge target on their backs by claiming a third party elimination role. Who's logic was that?
We had a vote between two solidly opposed camps. We had ample evidence to lynch youngminii. The mafia had likely all stacked on BM, because that was the only way to save him. At any rate, we have an excellent opportunity to get a kickass role list of innocent or mafia names.
INSTEAD XeliN waltzes in and provides enough "evidence" to start a third party bandwagon that provides the world's most convenient outlet for the mafia. This literally ranks as one of the worst town-plays of all time.
And to answer your question in pm's, XeliN, there's no way in hell I'm telling you anything. Your town circle seems to have a hole the size of the titanic, and with the slick move you just pulled off there, I think I'd rather go along with the people I currently trust, and not add a whole host of people who can't keep their mouths shut, and who would rather help the mafia then kill them.
Worst town move I think I've ever seen. Good grief.
On August 12 2010 11:24 Foolishness wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 12 2010 11:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm not going to quote all tree.hugger's posts, but he seemed to be heavily pushing the youngminii wagon and pushing against the BM wagon. This leads me to believe youngminii is most likely innocent since there was a very big chance of said person getting lynched. Also, this puts BM in a bad spotlight. You got it backwards, he wasn't pushing the youngminii lynch very hard, he was just going along with it. There's a big difference.
I think that tree.hugger was pushing the youngminii lynch a bit, it's just that wasn't posting as much to make it look like that he was pushing for it. Other than this post, it looks like he was playing pretty-town oriented, but not much FoS was given by him towards other players. On the other hand, he wasn't against the BM lynch that much (From what I gather from his posts)
He was pretty much the "stand-back and pretend to contribute to the town" mafia player, as in he was seen around to show the town he was trying to contribute while not accomplishing anything in the long run.
What I'm trying to say is that he didn't leave too many clues as to who the other mafia members are.
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Hmm day 1 tree.hugger's vote was on Artanis. This leads me to believe that I was wrong about BM. If someone's vote was kept back from saving him it would probably be a role like that but I don't think so. Sorry I suck as town guys.
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On August 12 2010 11:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Can whoever took a hit claim please, or medic whoever saved a hit claim as well please. One hit is mia, or a mafia was found in the midst. Thank you for your time.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:45 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 11:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Can whoever took a hit claim please, or medic whoever saved a hit claim as well please. One hit is mia, or a mafia was found in the midst. Thank you for your time. I took a hit night 1, we've been over this quite a few times...
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On August 12 2010 11:46 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 11:45 VayeshMoru wrote:On August 12 2010 11:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Can whoever took a hit claim please, or medic whoever saved a hit claim as well please. One hit is mia, or a mafia was found in the midst. Thank you for your time. I took a hit night 1, we've been over this quite a few times...
Sadly i was referring to this past night phase, thanks for playing.
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On August 12 2010 11:45 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 11:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Can whoever took a hit claim please, or medic whoever saved a hit claim as well please. One hit is mia, or a mafia was found in the midst. Thank you for your time. ? 3 Mafia KP, 2 Ninja KP and maybe 1-2 Vigi KP.
I doubt every single person used all their KP.
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