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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:41 GMT
#1521
On July 10 2010 19:39 YellowInk wrote:
You two (mostly BM) need to stop spamming obvious and commonly known info. You are encouraging the remainder of the town to be inactive. This makes it difficult to find scum.
Are you asking to get lynched? Early game you supported stating the obvious. I supported stating the obvious this game since it was a new setup - I made this known earlier in the thread.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:45 GMT
#1522
To obtain the following list, I took out inactives:

2. BrownBear
3. YellowInk
6. Divinek
8. citi.zen
9. L
11. Hesmyrr
12. youngminii
13. bumatlarge
14. Korynne
15. lakrismamma
16. Abenson
18. AcrossFiveJulys
19. rastaban


To get to this list, I took out zeks since he roleclaimed and took A5J after "decoding" - if it is right - the code. Plus, it would be crazy if zeks was the GF. Now, I'm going to try and get him to confirm being mason along with his partner to see if he isn't a goon. To not make it too obvious that I was thinking A5J was the other mason I decided to take out names that I didn't think would be GF as well.

Updated Hit list:

3. YellowInk
6. Divinek
8. citi.zen
9. L
11. Hesmyrr
12. youngminii
15. lakrismamma
16. Abenson
19. rastaban

Divinek claimed lover and coroner- GF wouldn't do this:

Updated Hit list:

3. YellowInk
8. citi.zen
9. L
11. Hesmyrr
12. youngminii
15. lakrismamma
19. rastaban
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:47 GMT
#1523
^ should have hit preview before posting.. hehe
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:51 GMT
#1524
On July 10 2010 05:29 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 05:03 Bill Murray wrote:

smiley, more proof that BM is town.

Possible early recruit:
2. BrownBear
3. YellowInk
5. BloodyC0bbler
18. AcrossFiveJulys
19. rastaban

subject 2: Tick Tock.
subject 3: town leader. If mafia, would probably play pro-town while coming up with plans to win in secret.
subject 5: inactive early game. Why would you recruit an inactive if there is a possible modkill?
subject 18: code much?
subject 19: new player. Hopes he doesn't mess up his team.


But no need to look at that list anymore, that was for the GF. Now we need to find the recruits. This list is only for the early recruit.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:52 GMT
#1525
Oh course these list assumes all roleclaims were real.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 10:56 GMT
#1526
On July 03 2010 04:00 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 02:16 Hesmyrr wrote:
Knowing the criteria behind Chezinu (or in fact anyone's) lynch list would indeed be nice. Considering it's nature, I am more interested in the people he chose to leave behind: zeks, Thegilaboy, Bill Murray, DCLXVI, ElyAs, and BrowneY.

BrowneY is no-brainer for moment, but I am wondering why you do not ElyAs lynch? Are you willing to propose 'an' alternative lynch candidate that town can choose to go behind?

zek roleclaim - gains immunity from lynch and he probably isn't GF
Bill Murray - because he would have recruited me if he was GF - if he is GF that was a great play by not recruiting me
BrowneY- obv reasons
Others - they will get modkilled so no point in killing them - these are people mafia feel comfortable killing because they know they aren't the GF. Town is also comfortable killing these people because it prevents lost of a town/blue since they would die anyways. So in a way it is a "no lynch".

I didn't narrow the list further because I was trying to be objective. I didn't want to rule-out any potential GFs.


reasons for first list I made for GF potentials
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 11:00 GMT
#1527
On July 05 2010 19:56 Chezinu wrote:
OK, the truth..

I really don't know anything. I just have guesses. All my theories could be wrong. Even the message that I could have possibly decoded. I still think the theory of Darth confirming that we have lovers since he admitted that he used the queen of hearts for Juliet is true though.

But still! I'm just a fluffy brown creature.. I just want to be something greater than I really am. It is Day 2, mafia have communication at least in part. It is a time of chaos. We don't have many confirm innocents. People are losing focus on are main objective. We need to kill the Godfather. I would advise everyone to look back on the Day 1 posts. Look for the godfather and focus not on the goons. We must kill the Queen. We must find the source. I know some may argue that we need to treat the symptoms before we can get to the cure. But I tell you we must look for the cure and then the symptoms will cease! Let us set order to this chaos!

It will not be easy. We will have to dig through old posts - something I myself I have not fully done. That is my weakness, I'm not as talented and hard-working as others here. But let my failures not stop you from finding the Godfather. Together we can win! But each of us must use their ability. If you are inactive, how can you contribute? Tell me, please tell me? Oh wait, you can't inform me because you are inactive.. I know that most of us are in a state of confusion. We must get through these dark times, by focusing on what is to come. We have an opportunity today to kill the Godfather! We still have a chance! Let us speak sanely and organize. Let new plans emerge! Blues don't follow the path that the our coroner took. He did not take my advice to stick around.. Listen to my advice blues! Live! Live until the time comes to kill the Godfather! For those of you who have a partner, much more will be expected of you. Make sure you communicate well and come up with plans that no one can ruin.

To the scum, traitors, and the Godfather:

Please, become divided and disorganized. Don't talk to each other. We will see how well that will be for you. Let the scum kill the Godfather. Let the Godfather lynch the traitor. Let the traitor kill both the scum and godfather out of ignorance.


Celebrating victory before it happens is so scummy, hehe. But let us reflect.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 11:04 GMT
#1528
Oh yeah, another reason I decided to take out players I suspected as goons was that they might actually think I could be GF, so it was a win-win. Ok, that's the last post about that, post coming up about analyzing people who could be recruits.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 11:11 GMT
#1529
zeks:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2010 04:59 zeks wrote:
sign me up i just died in the HP game

On July 01 2010 03:04 zeks wrote:
Who's to say the GF doesn't know who's a good player already? Most of the players this game has played before so theres a good chance the GF is someone who is familiar with most of the players this game.

So are we shooting for the inactives again? And does day start once GF picks his target?

On July 02 2010 11:33 zeks wrote:
I'm for L's plan. It essentially parallels a set up with a townie mayor.

"Play smart, be active" easier said than done - on both accounts.

Going out for Canada Day celebrations. Will cast my vote for Korynne. It was between YI or her but I'll give YI a chance cause if he's green then he "can" be a great asset for the town. Up to this point I feel like they've been trying to divide the town more than bring people together.

Apologies for last of activity, Canada Day weekend - going out really soon! Just wanted to cast my vote before I left. Let's get L's plan rolling after first lynch.

PS. I am an integral part in that plan so you don't want to lynch me first night. I hope I don't die like I did in HP mafia when I was gone a couple hours and suddenly everyone stacked on me for no reason. Serious. I'm more important this game than the other ones.

On July 02 2010 11:58 zeks wrote:
wow the reception was awesome!

Sorry for mindfucking you all for 10 mins rofl

Yes I'm one of the Masons. For better or for worse god picked me to be the Mason and the other mason and I agreed that I'd come out and roleclaim.

Now I'm going out for real now, no more posting for the night, play on, speculate if you will. I'll read through all this in the morning.

On July 02 2010 23:13 zeks wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 14:24 Korynne wrote:
We can't just say that youngminii. Maybe /you/ would never let Zeks do that if you were the mason. But masons can talk to each other and they know more than we do as town by knowing each others roles so they might decide it's a good idea depending on what they know. Maybe one of them's a roleblocker and so they'll just roleblock zeks and see what happens and tell us the results tomorrow.

You can't just say, oh masons would never do that. The whole point is that people kind of all do whatever, they don't really listen to you. I guess I'm finally starting to get it. Somebody is not going to like whatever plan whoever puts out, and if that person is the mason, and convinces the other mason. Well we would have zeks running around while everyone thinks he's a mason. I mean I'd say 80% chance he's mason, we just have to keep that 20% in mind if anything weird shows up.

Also like I said, zeks, you should post an encrypted message in the thread, and give the key to your mason partner. If you die and we ever need to verify your partner, we will be using that key to do it.


Sounds like a good idea, I would've just thought to use my death post to confirm my mason partner.

I claimed because my mason and I thought it was a good plan to go with and I was actually going to claim after the lynch but then my little debacle made people go wonkers so I ended up claiming this day.

Show nested quote +
Now zeks is in a position where you will defend him and the jailkeeper may protect him (and so he can never be DT'd). Even with this, I'm not sure that it's best for a real mason to come out if zeks is lying.

Your plan was only effective if you had town alignment on it before a mason coming forward. There definitely was not alignment on it. At this point, even if I agreed with you, it doesn't mean the masons do. So now the whole thing is fishy.

All this being said, it only screws the town over somewhat. The question is whether the jailkeeper wants to commit to protecting zeks. If zeks is for real, obviously we want to cover. If zeks is a fake (and if he were, I would figure him to either be traitor or goon, not godfather), we'll be wasting a bunch of jailkeeper actions up until when the real masons decide to come out.


YI you make things so much more complicated than they really are. With only 2 mafia is one really gonna go high profile like this. Stop being so paranoid. Now the plan gets rolling and you're effectively trying to create doubts in the jailkeeper from jailing me.

I'm voting YI. Even if he's town I'd rather have him gone now then have him derail our plans everytime. Sure its justified to be suspicious but this is just fucking ridiculous.
On July 05 2010 07:28 zeks wrote:
the key: g6<9<<x?N.n<?C=

Whoever suggested it thanks, saves me a death post.

On July 05 2010 07:29 zeks wrote:
^ i mean thats the encrypted message the mason has the key

he'll then post the key and you guys can go to the site, type the message and the key in and decrypt his name.

On July 05 2010 08:54 zeks wrote:
what the fuck are you serious

On July 05 2010 09:05 zeks wrote:

Free Mason
There are two of you. You have the ability to PM each other. You may not be recruited as mafia, but will be notified if someone tries to recruit you. If a Free Mason is roleblocked and recruited by the Godfather on the same night, he/she will become a member of the mafia, but will still be able to PM his fellow Free Mason.

Theres only two in the game. Unless this is some super hidden setup where we don't know what exists like your game BM.


I honestly dont know any other safer way to do the message thingy, I was gonna do a death post for my mason partner anyways. If you have a safer way to encrypt a message by all means please tell me.

Why the fuck is the question of me being mason the focal point still?

This is a ridiculous gambit for mafia to employ with heavy repercussions if it fails. Seriously you'd need both masons to be retards to not call me out now... look at this game:

1. Chezinu
2. BrownBear
3. YellowInk
4. zeks
5. Thegilaboy
6. Divinek
7. Bill Murray
8. citi.zen
9. L
10. DCLXVI
11. Hesmyrr
12. youngminii
13. bumatlarge
14. Korynne
15. lakrismamma
16. Abenson
17. ElyAs
18. AcrossFiveJulys
19. rastaban
20. BrowneY

I'm sure 99% of this list (if they were actually mason) they'd call me out on it. What reasons would the real masons have to not reveal themselves as the real masons? None.





On July 05 2010 09:13 zeks wrote:
i think chezinu is bluffing theres no way you can decrypt it without the key

theres a mathematical algorithm that goes along with encrypting it plus the key is case sensitive ... how the fuck would u have done it in such a short period of time (unless ur some genius underground russian CS wizard, or you hired R1CH)

what was the point of that post chez ?

On July 07 2010 07:47 zeks wrote:
All or nothing. Lets roleclaim. Force the issue on the mafia.

I am still wondering why we didn't name claim earlier in HP mafia. fuck
On July 07 2010 08:32 zeks wrote:
I want to mention that in a mass roleclaim it pretty much opens up our roles to the mafia and they can sort of narrow down what group of people not to hit - incase they hit their own GF. Remember the normal goons are expendable but the GF is not. Of course the goons don't want to wrongly hit their boss or they'll have no chance of winning...

On July 07 2010 08:35 zeks wrote:
Essentially its a double edged sword and we're also banking on nailing scum early cause if we miss we're in pretty horrible shape with mafia numbers ++ and our roles being revealed

something to think about

On July 07 2010 08:39 zeks wrote:
thats y im still for this rc thing

lets start getting rid of some of these "all-stars"

On July 07 2010 13:31 zeks wrote:
^ wtf when did I even talk about Abenson quote me on it

Why are we unvoting double lynch everyone vote double lynch please kthx

On July 07 2010 13:37 zeks wrote:

well if BM is the jailer he can't jail himself anyway

On July 07 2010 13:42 zeks wrote:
i trust youngminii and lynch on citi.zen

its a 100% flip wtf if he lies we use a double lynch on him but i dont see why he'd lie

if youngminii is a recruit why would he stick his boss out thats retarded

there is no rationale of leaving a GF alive

then we'll double lynch both YI and BM and we'll have peace

On July 07 2010 14:01 zeks wrote:
lol i was just reading into that indeed he had only 1 action if he was the dream catcher

On July 07 2010 14:04 zeks wrote:
citi.zen must be gf

desperate but pathetic attempt to save him from BM - knew if GF died it'd be over
On July 08 2010 21:02 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 15:14 BrownBear wrote:
On July 08 2010 15:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I'll die in the night.
I'm jailing Hesmyrr tonight.


You've gone from jailkeep roleclaim to vet roleclaim back to jailkeep roleclaim.


lol...i think BM already lost track of what he is

On July 09 2010 20:20 zeks wrote:
^ if he's truely town mafia would leave him alive to screw with us

if he's mafia of course he'd be alive

so regardless i dont see BM dying anytime soon unless it was from a bomber or lynch

i say leave BM open we have more important people to keep alive
On July 09 2010 20:22 zeks wrote:
oops my post above was replying to abenson

On July 10 2010 14:02 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 10:15 Bill Murray wrote:
if you are, gg, and gj.
i was trying to get people to use doublelynches and realize it could be lylo or a scenario where we "need help" from power roles.

alas, if so, memento mori. i would also apologize for my silliness to the rest of the town. i will try my best to play better and less scummy to impart my ideas to you all! it's just hard for me if you all don't believe me.

if we had lylo or w/e, gg.
well played
wish the town would have rallied behind me.
thanks yellowink


where'd you hide the real bm

lol, clueless in The Prism!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 10 2010 11:31 GMT
#1530
What? I don't even...
lalala
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 10 2010 12:11 GMT
#1531
Don't you guys know who Ace's old friend is? Why would a recruit kill someone that the godfather would have recruited.. The game is over... game over man, game over..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 10 2010 13:54 GMT
#1532
i would've had to be RBed to be recruited

in which case i would've had to get RBed by the roleblocker and recruited the same night

note that both the roleblocker and GF have no way of communicating with each other
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 10 2010 14:47 GMT
#1533
On July 10 2010 22:54 zeks wrote:
i would've had to be RBed to be recruited

in which case i would've had to get RBed by the roleblocker and recruited the same night

note that both the roleblocker and GF have no way of communicating with each other

The roleblocker is dead as well (night 2 I believe) so the % chance of this happening is so low I think it is worth the gamble (we can have DT verify it later if needed). since it would have had to happen night 1 or 2, and if the plan was followed night 1 YI was Rbed there is ~ a 1/200 chance that it could have occurred.
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 10 2010 14:51 GMT
#1534
What is the consensus of acknowledging the other mason? Since the the GF is dead (probably) there isn't much use in keeping it hidden so they don't recruit him. He doesn't need to roleclaim if he is blue, just that he is Mason, it would narrow down our suspect list. Since Zek is pretty much confirmed we can then know another town.

My only worry is that he might be a high priority target for the mafia

Thoughts?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 10 2010 15:32 GMT
#1535
i've already posted a code that my mason partner will decipher to prove that he's the other mason back at page 30 something incase i die

we will decide later whether its beneficial for town to have him (other mason) claim as well
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 10 2010 15:52 GMT
#1536
Well we have to decide on someone to lynch soon. Since we don't have anyone better to lynch as of now, I'll put my vote on YI (I have suspicions on him) but I'd much rather check him at night.
lalala
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 10 2010 16:48 GMT
#1537
Also if we are not going to delay second mason roleclaim, youngminii should absolutely make clear who his investigation target will be. Each investigation is highly valuable in getting clears and I definitely would not like having one wasted on second mason- as in, when youngminii firmly makes up his mind about investigating second mason, the second mason better claim (with death of Godfather the role's value decreases a lot).

I also want to state that should Bill Murray be confirmed clear (youngminii investigation is correct), then I am automatic clear as well. Bill Murray blocked me for n1 and n2 making me immune from recruitment. Thus in order for me to be anti-town I must either be Traitor or Godfather. Traitor is confirmed dead, and Godfather also is supposedly dead.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 10 2010 16:57 GMT
#1538
Well, unless you were recruited N0 but I'm pretty sure that didn't happen as it's highly likely that L was recruited N0. So yeah you're fine in my books.
lalala
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 10 2010 17:32 GMT
#1539
On July 11 2010 00:52 youngminii wrote:
Well we have to decide on someone to lynch soon. Since we don't have anyone better to lynch as of now, I'll put my vote on YI (I have suspicions on him) but I'd much rather check him at night.
Please state your suspicions rather than voting without reason. How am I to defend myself against such an accusation?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 19:28 GMT
#1540
On July 10 2010 19:41 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 19:39 YellowInk wrote:
You two (mostly BM) need to stop spamming obvious and commonly known info. You are encouraging the remainder of the town to be inactive. This makes it difficult to find scum.
Are you asking to get lynched? Early game you supported stating the obvious. I supported stating the obvious this game since it was a new setup - I made this known earlier in the thread.


yea. i wasn't sure if i wanted to lynch you until now.
re-voting you. don't care if you're mafia or not.

On July 11 2010 02:32 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2010 00:52 youngminii wrote:
Well we have to decide on someone to lynch soon. Since we don't have anyone better to lynch as of now, I'll put my vote on YI (I have suspicions on him) but I'd much rather check him at night.
Please state your suspicions rather than voting without reason. How am I to defend myself against such an accusation?


It's not that you're guilty or innocent, it's that you're being a troll and are our lynch target
sorry
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