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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 08:32 GMT
#1481
well, citi.zen was going for "the best" players if he recruited L early..
yellowink/brownbear/chezinu/bc are the only people i could see him recruiting
cross-reference this with my assessment of everyone, and BC is the one on both lists

therefore, i am voting bloodyc0bbler, but not double-lynch.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 08:33 GMT
#1482
i would put hesmyrr up there, but i jailed him both nights he could have been recruited
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 08:33 GMT
#1483
furthermore!!!!! there might only be 1 scum! what if he tried to recruit someone i jailed???
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 10 2010 08:44 GMT
#1484
On July 10 2010 17:32 Bill Murray wrote:
well, citi.zen was going for "the best" players if he recruited L early..
yellowink/brownbear/chezinu/bc are the only people i could see him recruiting
cross-reference this with my assessment of everyone, and BC is the one on both lists

therefore, i am voting bloodyc0bbler, but not double-lynch.


Your biggest issue with that however is that I subbed into the game last minute as Ace did.
Considering that citizen appears to have been the GF, L was mafia + traitor, and Ace dead, citizen would have screwed the mafia team by recruiting me as soon as I joined. For precisely the same reason you have me listed. I am a "best" player. Grabbing me the moment I appear into play would get me basically auto shot, crippling the mafia.

Chez/brownbear/yellowink would make good choices however. Out of the three though, brown bear is the least active compared to what I have seen as his regular style, so if we have to vote on BM's list of 4, BB gets my vote.

On July 10 2010 16:47 Bill Murray wrote:
ok
GF: Citi.zen
Recruited Traitor: L
Night 1 recruitment: ?
Night 2 recruitment: ?
Night 3 recruitment: ?


Player List:


Scummy/Lynchable:
BloodyC0bbler - where the hell has he been?


Was I really needed for the period of time we solidified Citizen as a lynch hit? or with the overnight period where the only activity is usually discussion of who uses roles which you guys cleared rather quickly. Truth be told I haven't been needed heavily the last day or so as youngmirii has done fairly well to lead the town.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 08:51 GMT
#1485
you realize you appear scummy by actively lurking? you respond the MINUTE you are accused... well not literally, but you know what i mean; however, your case is pretty good.

i will unvote for now, and let everyone else decide on this. i am by no means the sole brain
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 10 2010 08:52 GMT
#1486
On July 10 2010 17:51 Bill Murray wrote:
you realize you appear scummy by actively lurking? you respond the MINUTE you are accused... well not literally, but you know what i mean; however, your case is pretty good.

i will unvote for now, and let everyone else decide on this. i am by no means the sole brain


:p if you look at my general activity today you'd notice i've been on TL a large portion of it, and combine with DTA's late ass night post, it ended up being bad timing?

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 10 2010 09:09 GMT
#1487
On July 10 2010 17:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Truth be told I haven't been needed heavily the last day or so as youngmirii has done fairly well to lead the town.

You spelled my name wrong

While I'm not ruling out BC as a townie, I'm not convinced he's scum and I think there are other people that we should concentrate on, namely BM's four.

The best play on scum's end would be to get rid of the DT (ie. me). Scum knows that I'm DT but they also know they can't touch me because of the jailing. The only way they can get rid of me for now is to sacrifice their KP for two nights. Hence my suspicions lead me to YI. He's the one who suggested/pushed forward the idea to roleblock me. As scum, he knows I am a DT and the best way to neutralize my ability is to roleblock me, knowing that he can't touch me otherwise. Sacrificing KP is a major blow to scum so instead of that, blocking me is the best option.

Now I would have liked to see what his reaction would have been after finding out I was roleblocked (maybe I should've faked it) but since that's too late, there's no other place for me to lay my accusations. So if we end up lynching someone other than YI (like BB) then my check will go to YI tonight.
lalala
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 10 2010 09:11 GMT
#1488
Well this is unfortunate. We appear to have no roleblocker.

We could still be in any of the 3 cases:

90%) youngminii is a DT and we hung citi.zen the godfather, leaving us up against up to 2 goons
9%) youngminii is a goon and we hung citi.zen the goon, leaving us up against GF, youngminii-goon, and up to one more goon
1%) youngminii is the godfather and we hung citi.zen the goon, leaving us up against youngminii-GF and up to 2 goons

It is safe to assume youngminii was jailed. Since he was not roleblocked, scenario 2 can't be eliminated. However, if this is the case, we have one other way to discover it - with a (3rd!) coroner. As I had indicated yesterday, I somewhat agreed with the idea that was presented that having a coroner confirmation would be good, I just didn't want to pop what was likely the last coroner if a roleblock could discern for us the same information. So at this time I am requesting that the coroner roleclaim. This will confirm you as town tomorrow after your ability pops and also provide us with more information to plan how we want to tackle this day.

Should we have no coroner, I believe our best plan is from here on out to fully assume youngminii is precisely who he says he is. The only other option would be to hang him, but this would put us in a situation where if we are in case 1, we are throwing away a huge swath of games won. I don't like this option. So coroner, if you exist, please step up.

Note that in case 1, BM is town. In cases 2 and 3, BM's alignment is indeterminate. So I'm definitely not looking to hang him right now, but that doesn't mean you should listen to him. ::headdesk::

As a side note, since L's plan on day 1 was significantly pro-mafia, I think it's reasonable to assume L was the night 0 recruit. Take this for what you will in your own considerations.

More analysis to come in probably 10-12 hours or after a role claim, whichever comes first. This will be my thoughts for lynching among the populace short of someone coming forward with significant information.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:37 GMT
#1489
shut up, yellowink
i am playing perfectly.
you are getting my vote for this previous, scummy post


also, your scenario 1 is wrong
"90%) youngminii is a DT and we hung citi.zen the godfather, leaving us up against up to 2 goons"
jailkeeper + roleblocker = chance of their being only 1 goon. get your facts straight.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:38 GMT
#1490
On July 10 2010 18:09 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 17:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Truth be told I haven't been needed heavily the last day or so as youngmirii has done fairly well to lead the town.

You spelled my name wrong

While I'm not ruling out BC as a townie, I'm not convinced he's scum and I think there are other people that we should concentrate on, namely BM's four.

The best play on scum's end would be to get rid of the DT (ie. me). Scum knows that I'm DT but they also know they can't touch me because of the jailing. The only way they can get rid of me for now is to sacrifice their KP for two nights. Hence my suspicions lead me to YI. He's the one who suggested/pushed forward the idea to roleblock me. As scum, he knows I am a DT and the best way to neutralize my ability is to roleblock me, knowing that he can't touch me otherwise. Sacrificing KP is a major blow to scum so instead of that, blocking me is the best option.

Now I would have liked to see what his reaction would have been after finding out I was roleblocked (maybe I should've faked it) but since that's too late, there's no other place for me to lay my accusations. So if we end up lynching someone other than YI (like BB) then my check will go to YI tonight.


perfect.
i'm jailing you again, so you won't be recruited if you aren't already.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
July 10 2010 09:42 GMT
#1491
On July 10 2010 18:37 Bill Murray wrote:
shut up, yellowink
i am playing perfectly.
you are getting my vote for this previous, scummy post


also, your scenario 1 is wrong
Show nested quote +
"90%) youngminii is a DT and we hung citi.zen the godfather, leaving us up against up to 2 goons"
jailkeeper + roleblocker = chance of their being only 1 goon. get your facts straight.
reading comprehension ftl

I don't really care anymore, BM. Chances are I'm going to have to play the remainder of this game assuming you are town. I just wish you'd play on our team.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:47 GMT
#1492
you are such a troll, and this is coming from me, so that is really bad for you
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 10 2010 09:47 GMT
#1493
I think the other mason should claim to confirm my decoding ability and to narrow down our suspect list.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:47 GMT
#1494
and by "our team" thanks for confirming you're not the only mafia member left
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:51 GMT
#1495
On July 10 2010 18:47 Chezinu wrote:
I think the other mason should claim to confirm my decoding ability and to narrow down our suspect list.

you said it was a5j, but i'm assuming you are it and are asking for a claim as to derail suspicion from yourself in that regard. i don't really think that it is important, but it couldn't really hurt/help much right now.

i doubt a mason would be killed over a jailkeeper or a detective that are out in the open, so it would probably be safe for zeks to tell us or for them to say so. i don't care either way. them being the other mason is NOT confirmable, is it? they could have been recruited+roleblocked.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 10 2010 09:51 GMT
#1496
On July 10 2010 18:47 Chezinu wrote:
I think the other mason should claim to confirm my decoding ability and to narrow down our suspect list.

by sayinf "our suspect list" you confirmed there is more than one mafia member left.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:52 GMT
#1497
errr not the other mason, but rather they're not confirmed to be not-mafia, just highly unlikely
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 10 2010 09:52 GMT
#1498
well, i'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 10 2010 09:53 GMT
#1499
On July 10 2010 18:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 18:47 Chezinu wrote:
I think the other mason should claim to confirm my decoding ability and to narrow down our suspect list.

you said it was a5j, but i'm assuming you are it and are asking for a claim as to derail suspicion from yourself in that regard. i don't really think that it is important, but it couldn't really hurt/help much right now.

i doubt a mason would be killed over a jailkeeper or a detective that are out in the open, so it would probably be safe for zeks to tell us or for them to say so. i don't care either way. them being the other mason is NOT confirmable, is it? they could have been recruited+roleblocked.

It is confirmable, have both masons post at the exact same time displaying the exact same message.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 10 2010 09:55 GMT
#1500
On July 10 2010 18:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 18:47 Chezinu wrote:
I think the other mason should claim to confirm my decoding ability and to narrow down our suspect list.

you said it was a5j

Sometimes it seems people don't get my hints, but I guess you can read them! I never directly said it but I claim it by making his name blue in one of my lists.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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