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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 04:32 GMT
#221
Ace could you please put the draft order in the OP?
Cheese is good for you!
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 04:38 GMT
#222
Citi.zen, how would my number help in outsmarting anyone? I picked [1][5].

Considering how unlikely it would be that everyone had duplicate numbers (or at least people would think) then it's rather silly to pick [1][5] if I was mafia. I picked the number randomly.

Also (not to play the newb card) I am new at this (this is 3rd game) so yeah, I do miss things. If you read my first game (where I'm townie) I also make a bunch of errors (meeple does an analysis of me at some point). I just figure it's better to try and contribute than to sit around like nbt and nai.protoss and scara and play the newb card fully. At least I can bring some things to attention and you guys can fix up the plan.

Bill, do you mean day vigilante (the one kill one) or the compulsive vigilante?
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
May 02 2010 04:43 GMT
#223
On May 02 2010 13:38 Korynne wrote:
Citi.zen, how would my number help in outsmarting anyone? I picked [1][5].

Considering how unlikely it would be that everyone had duplicate numbers (or at least people would think) then it's rather silly to pick [1][5] if I was mafia. I picked the number randomly.

Also (not to play the newb card) I am new at this (this is 3rd game) so yeah, I do miss things. If you read my first game (where I'm townie) I also make a bunch of errors (meeple does an analysis of me at some point). I just figure it's better to try and contribute than to sit around like nbt and nai.protoss and scara and play the newb card fully. At least I can bring some things to attention and you guys can fix up the plan.

Bill, do you mean day vigilante (the one kill one) or the compulsive vigilante?


On May 02 2010 12:36 Bill Murray wrote:
If I told you I took that that would be benefiting the mafia.
I either took that or I took Day Vig. You make up your mind.

Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 04:48 GMT
#224
Yes I read that Hobbes, but that pertains to my next post in case he mis-wrote it.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 04:56 GMT
#225
So basically, since I didn't get my role (not roleblocker or inventor, but something pretty important), someone else took it. Which leaves that at Foolishness and Bill Murray.

I say BM is extremely suspicious at this point. He's blatantly not wanting to play with the plan, which I don't understand because that guarantees us top 3-4 roles PLUS not letting mafia have them even if we die.

Foolishness has yet to comment on things after roles were out.

Since Qatol is claiming that copy cat is taken, I understand that this information means you guys probably should not lynch me in case I did get a good role and I am just passing it on to the copy cat to make it anonymous.

So since we need to lynch someone closer to the end of the list... I propose citi.zen at the moment. Not because he accuses me, but rather his logic seems off with accusing [me and Foolishness] for outsmarting people due to picking numbers. We clearly would lower our chances of being at the front by picking [1][1] and[1][5] rather than [1][1] and [2][1].

Oh, not to mention he's at the end of the list so he probably doesn't have a good role.

Of course that's going off only one post of information, but I will step it up a bit.

These are first impressions. I am not going to pretend they are strong and will not argue with anyone just yet - don't bother. Onwards and upwards.


I am not going to pretend my argument against citi.zen is very strong either, but I would like him to reply and explain why he thinks "our" number picking is in any way suspicious. By that I mean, if me and Foolishness were mafia together, why it would make any sense for me to pick [1][5] AND for him to pick [1][1].
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 02 2010 04:57 GMT
#226
On May 02 2010 13:32 Scamp wrote:
Ace could you please put the draft order in the OP?


Got it, it's updated now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
May 02 2010 05:08 GMT
#227
On May 02 2010 13:48 Korynne wrote:
Yes I read that Hobbes, but that pertains to my next post in case he mis-wrote it.


Sorry, forgot it was bill we're talking about, he could mean absolutely anything.
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 02 2010 05:13 GMT
#228
Ace, was L's replacement taken out of the game? Or did they have a role selection?
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 02 2010 05:14 GMT
#229
The replacement never showed up so it's now an 18 player game.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 02 2010 06:30 GMT
#230
eh, picked [4][14], dunno if you care anymore...was a little messed up when I read how the draft worked. Well I'm going to read through the thread now...
So...should I be claiming if I claimed a roll and wound up vanilla?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
May 02 2010 06:44 GMT
#231
On May 02 2010 15:30 ~OpZ~ wrote:
eh, picked [4][14], dunno if you care anymore...was a little messed up when I read how the draft worked. Well I'm going to read through the thread now...
So...should I be claiming if I claimed a roll and wound up vanilla?

That seems a little too coincidental for you to have picked [4][14]... if you know what I mean.

Ace, what's the vote format for this game?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 02 2010 06:49 GMT
#232
Omg...Dude, me and D3 are like...apparently.....wtf...

haha...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 02 2010 06:53 GMT
#233
I would find it suspicious, but no...I actually did pick [4][14]...I'm just reading the posts I've been out since when I posted my signing up for the game...

Okay...please stop calling the Floridian crappy....an anonymous vote is pretty useful for the mafia...I believe L had BM lynched one game just because he voted at the last minute two votes in a row....

Just looking over everyone's plans so far....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 07:01 GMT
#234
The point was that the floridian would be useless if we knew who he was. But as d3 (I think) pointed out of floridian was picked by mafia up beforehand anonymously then that would be bad.

So now we have a mafia copy cat. No idea what BM and Folishness were up to because I'm not the role I was picking...so like...urgh.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 02 2010 08:32 GMT
#235
+ Show Spoiler [Bid list] +

1. Bill Murray - [17] [4]
2. Foolishness - [1] [1]
3. Korynne - [1] [5]
4. Falcynn [1] [5-20] or [4] [1] - hasn't claimed
5. [NyC]HoBbes - [4] [1]
6. ~Opz~ - [4] [14]
7. d3_crescentia - [4] [14]
8. Caller - [6] [1]
9. sidesprang - [6] [1]
10. Qatol - [6] [1]
11. JeeJee - [6] [1]
12. DarthThienAn - [8] [1]
13. johnnyspazz - [8] [4]
14. Amnesia [8] [4-20] or [10] [1] - hasn't claimed
15. Radfield - [10] [1]
16. Scamp - [10] [11]
17. Zona - [12] [1]
18. citi.zen - [12] [3]

This gives us a few potential groups:
+ Show Spoiler [Group 1] +

Bill Murray

+ Show Spoiler [Group 2] +

Foolishness
Korynne
Falcynn

+ Show Spoiler [Group 3] +

Falcynn
Hobbes
Opz
d3_crescentia

+ Show Spoiler [Group 4] +

Caller
sidesprang
Qatol
JeeJee

+ Show Spoiler [Group 5] +

DarthThienAn
johnnyspazz
Amnesia

+ Show Spoiler [Group 6] +

Amnesia
Radfield
Scamp

+ Show Spoiler [Group 7] +

Zona
citi.zen

So we have 4 mafia and 7 potential groups. There is likely only 1 mafia in each group unless they lied about their numbers. Either way, these groups are a starting point.

For the first lynch, I propose that we do not select anyone in groups 1-3. The mafia likely have control of the copy cat role, and those groups are where we will likely find the most powerful roles.
Of those, I have picked out 5 players who have not contributed from that list:
Caller - claimed only his role and that nobody told him about role selection
sidesprang - claimed his number and some sort of reasoning, but nothing else
JeeJee - complained about the tiebreaks and pointed out that the town likes even numbers
johnnyspazz - gave his numbers
Amnesia - hasn't contributed at all + we don't have his numbers

These are my thoughts on each of the 5:
Caller - He likes to troll and be generally useless early in games. I don't have a strong read on his role yet. However, if he's innocent, it is also possible that he doesn't have a role because he forgot to send in a role selection PM. I don't want to take that chance quite yet.
sidesprang - Relatively new player. I know he's played in a few games, but I don't know much about his posting habits. I'm going to have to go back and read his previous games to get a feel for his behavior, but I feel like he should be more active than this.
JeeJee - He can be pretty iffy with his activity as well. He has had some pretty inactive games in the past, but I was very impressed with his play in WaW mafia. He needs to start talking more.
johnnyspazz - Another relatively new player. However, he told me that he has been receiving coaching from Incognito. If this is the case, I find it hard to believe that he would be contributing this little when innocent. Major red flags here.
Amnesia - I know nothing about him. Is this his first game? He sure doesn't seem to have his bearings about him, posting but not giving us his numbers. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now, but he needs to get up to speed and start contributing.

Obviously, I'm going to have to go back and do a little more research when it isn't 4am, but for right now, I think johnnyspazz is our best lynch target.

## vote: johnnyspazz

I may change this later, but we need to be discussing suspects. Let's get talking, guys and Korynne!

As for what to do about Korynne's role discrepancy, I don't think there is much we CAN do about it at least until night time. But we need to think about using our alignment checks on the early part of the list. Let's just focus on making sure the town contributes and the mafia are forced to talk for right now.
Uff Da
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 02 2010 09:11 GMT
#236
If there are no better candidates at the end of the day I propose an alignment check on either BM or Foolishness, and a role check on me.

Actually I'm not sure which one is better(which check to use on who)... I really need to sleep. xD

Regarding your comment about johnnyspazz, it just seems to mean that Incognito didn't teach him very well. xP
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
May 02 2010 09:20 GMT
#237
wow ok so i skipped the part where i was supposed to pm a role to ace, gg me

as for voting for me, i guess that would be a great start since you wouldn't be losing anyone important. as for incognito "coaching" me, all he did was refer me to good players such as yourself qatol to ask for advice. last game i tried to be super active and that only turned the town against me.

let me guess, people are going to accuse me for being a lurker and responding when a vote is casted on me. well, there's nothing i can really do if i was busy all day and when i get the chance to read the thread, there's a vote on me by the end. coincidences happen
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 02 2010 09:46 GMT
#238
How does [4][14] get picked twice? O_O. Like wtfroflcopterz? That's weird to me right now, but also pretty funny.

I wish BM was more straightforward about things, but I guess this is his playing style... Is there anyone who went for inventor or day vigi, but also, do we WANT to figure out who got what roles? Especially with the copycat potentially in mafia hands, we might want to leave the roles out of this, at least until day 2 or something. Hopefully the mafia pick up something bad during the night.

Medics should obviously cover people from the top 4 or 5, people who might have good roles.
Role/Alignment Checks should go up on suspicious people. Hopefully we'll have a better idea of who to lynch tomorrow.

In response to Qatol's analysis:
All of those players are pretty inactive so far, but to me Amnesia sticks out because he hasn't posted ANYTHING relevant to the game "Let us begin!" which is pretty bad in my opinion, although that could be the infamous TL inactivity bug going around. Inactivity is not scummy, but it's definitely not pro-town t.t.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 02 2010 09:54 GMT
#239
Oh snap, one other thing to consider is: how cruel is Ace?

This game, we have variants of our Cop/Doctors, which means we might not be able to rely on them as much. Maybe the JOAT should consider using his alignment check tonight? The earlier we get information, the better.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 02 2010 10:31 GMT
#240
So basically, since I didn't get my role (not roleblocker or inventor, but something pretty important), someone else took it.


On May 02 2010 18:11 Korynne wrote:
If there are no better candidates at the end of the day I propose an alignment check on either BM or Foolishness, and a role check on me.

Actually I'm not sure which one is better(which check to use on who)... I really need to sleep. xD

Regarding your comment about johnnyspazz, it just seems to mean that Incognito didn't teach him very well. xP



Why would we do a role check on you, when in your previous post you said you didn't get the role you wanted? I took this to mean that you did not get a role at all, but maybe I'm misunderstanding it. It seems like role checking you would be a waste for now, since you're basically claiming Vanilla.

But, Korynne knows one of either BM or Foolishness has the powerful role she tried to take. Assuming you followed Qatol's plan, that would mean you tried to take compulsive Vig and didn't get it(the other 'important role' in my mind would be day vig). My guess at the moment would be BM with inventor, Foolishness with CompVig, and Korynne with nothing.

The real question is, is it in our best interest to have the top few on the list roleclaim(if one of them tried to lie, it's possible Korynne would know right off), or does it make sense to see what happens night one and then decide. So if anti-town inventions start getting made, or 2 obvious townies get killed, we then call for a roleclaim. Whether we roleclaim or not, I think it makes sense to have our role checks and alignment checks focused on BM and Foolishness. Inventor and CompVig are going to have a huge impact on this game, so we need to know who they are, and what alignment they are.
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