EPTOnce both of you vote for the same person it is a given that we must vote with you. And the only reason I'd be hammering instead of RoL or BrownBear would be because I'm online right now and they are not yet online.
Did I miss anything XeliN?
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Once both of you vote for the same person it is a given that we must vote with you. And the only reason I'd be hammering instead of RoL or BrownBear would be because I'm online right now and they are not yet online. Did I miss anything XeliN? | ||
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Like I said, voting after Hobbes does. We're so close guys, we can do this!! | ||
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On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: The way I see it, I am town. This means that out of the 4 of you, 2 are scum, and there are three possible options: 1: (The most likely option IMO) XeliN and Korynne are telling the truth, and d3's rolechecks are legit. If this is the case, then RoL and Korynne are both mafia, in which case, we will win. Oh, you're so sure we will win? Because you're mafia and no one's pointing fingers at you? On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: 2: (The least likely option) XeliN is lying, and he and hobbes are in fact the mafia. Korynne jumped on the bandwagon of saying "yeah, those are d3's rolechecks" to appear pro-town, but is inadvertently screwing us over. I don't think Korynne would do that, so I'm going to say this is 99% not true. Yeah, that would be retarded of me. Next. On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: 3: (Not as likely as option 1, but something to think about) XeliN and Korynne, the two who came out and said "Hey guys look d3's rolechecks" are actually the mafia. XeliN says that he and hobbes are town, which means hobbes (who is actually town) doesn't suspect him, due to the "evidence". All Korynne has to do is survive one day of suspicion, and the mafia have won. Uh, d3 told us he checked XeliN night 2 and he turned out innocent. Hello? Were you reading? I'm pretty sure d3 would've informed Hobbes of that (he told me and XeliN at least, no reason he wouldn't have PM'd Hobbes). On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: This is something some people haven't noticed yet: It's 3 town to 2 mafia. Unless we lynch mafia today, the game is over, because the lynch and nightkill will make it 2 mafia to 1 town. Now, let's look at my 3 possible scenarios. I'm going to discount 2, because that happening would be crazy mad fucked-up, so that leaves 1 and 3. Thus, here are the options: Uh, yeah, we know that. Thanks for pointing out the obvious and not actually saying anything useful. On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: 1: Mafia are RoL and Korynne 3: Mafia are XeliN and Korynne At this point in the game, the mafia can afford to play a little more fast and loose with their teamwork. I think it's entirely possible that one would vote for the other, and if a bandwagon starts and they get lynched, then hey, the other mafia looks extremely pro-town, and he's got a pretty good chance of living. I'm not saying me voting for RoL is pro-town. Unlike you guys, I don't go by the OMG I'M TOWN IMMA PM YOU or OMG IMMA JUMP ON ROL SO I LOOK INNOCENT. I wouldn't read into my vote for RoL, it basically means nothing. I had to do it nomatter whether I'm mafia or town. Things that don't change when you are mafia or town are stupid are not necessary to analyze. Oh and I'm a she, so clearly I'm not the other mafia. xP On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: Now, the question is this. Which of the three to lynch? RoL: Pros: He seems to be the most scummy of the three, hobbes thinks he's scum (and I'm sure at this point hobbes is town), Korynne has a good point page 12 that he's inactive as shit Cons: He's only mafia in one of these scenarios, if we fuck up we are screwed. Right, one of these scenerios, as in the one Hobbes and XeliN /know/ is true and you're off the hook. None of these scenerios include you, thanks for doing a full analysis. On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: Korynne: Pros: She is mafia in both of the situations I think are most likely, she's provided some wonderful, insightful analysis on a bunch of townies that ended up getting them lynched. Cons: She's active, she's a good player. Uh, I just said Abenson seems to be distracting town. Do you not read? I've been advocating for XeliN's lynch all game. The only time it stopped is after I talked to d3 and he checked out XeliN to be town. How is that me getting people lynched? My power went out during Abenson's lynch and I would've definitely pulled my vote because we still had plenty of time to talk (even if we didn't switch targets) and gather more information, I've been on XeliN's case all of day 2 about that. Sure I could /fake/ a power outage on night 1 but seriously there are better things to do with my life. d3 made a townie circle and I trusted him, so when Hobbes PM'd me and said they were switching over to Johnny I agreed, because I thought XeliN, BrownBear and Johnny all looked suspicious and I told them I would be okay with lynching any of the 3. Given that Johnny is one of the three, and they were going to switch over to Johnny, I clearly would prefer a lynch of one of my suspects than for no lynch to happen because of me. On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: XeliN Pros: He could be a very very very sneaky mafia? If he is, he's honestly played the most undercover mafia I've ever seen in any game, both on and offline. Cons: Probably the least likely to be mafia out of the above 3, we can't afford to fuck this up. Uh, really? I thought he looked ridiculously scummy. The only reason he is not scummy is because me and Hobbes (presumably) both heard from d3, confirmed detective, that XeliN is not mafia. So I don't know how that would make him a sneaky mafia. If XeliN was mafia then he would be lynched today from d3's information last night... Like, no, XeliN is not mafia. Stop trying to put attention on anyone other than the two of us now. On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: So from my analysis, as tempting as it might be to just vote RebirthofLegend for being inactive, we don't have the luxury of just voting inactives off the island anymore: we need a mafia. And sadly, if my analysis is correct, in either case Korynne's gonna flip red. Sorry, bro (ladies is bros too  )Well of course in all your analysis I'm red, you never consider the fact that you could be mafia. I could do the same analysis in 2 lines: d3 confirmed Hobbes and XeliN to me, he turned out detective. There's 5 of us left, so BrownBear and RoL are mafia. Done. See, wasn't that simple? On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote: Also, it was cute how you went from, in page 12, being like "Oh, BrownBear's active, we shouldn't lynch him first" to, on this page, being "HEY GUYS BROWNBEARS INACTIVE AS SHIT WHAT THE HELL MAN" the instant the FoS got pointed on you.  VOTE: KORYNNE Did you not understand what I said? BrownBear is active, as in BrownBear is active compared to RoL. BrownBear is inactive, as in if you were town you would vote for me immediately. Rather than waiting for RoL to hammer me because Hobbes hasn't voted yet. Let's see... you're all inactive and then suddenly you magically appear to PM XeliN and Hobbes. Then you're all inactive again... and then magically appear after we're done lynching RoL to accuse me, the only other person that could be mafia. Yeah, I'd say that has signs of lurking and inactivity compared to me. | ||
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So at least now I know who is town/scum. Rather than me and XeliN having to fight each other all tomorrow. xD | ||
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On May 01 2010 13:36 XeliN wrote: The game is now essentially over, voting majority for RoL has been reached, either mafia have just won or we have a guaranteed win so mafia just come out with it I really want to know ^^ Sorry, am I missing something here XeliN? We all know RoL is mafia, so we have another day. Either you or Hobbes is going to die tonight (unless BrownBear is going to be retardedx100 and kill me because he's still into his strange theories that you two are not confirmed xD) so tomorrow we are still at 50/50. So how is that a sure win for us... Not to mention you still seem suspicious of me? I can say we'll have a sure win tomorrow if you lynch BrownBear, but I don't see how you or Hobbes can say you've won if RoL (and he will obviously) turn up to be mafia. xD | ||
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On May 01 2010 13:57 BrownBear wrote: Well, if you read my post, you'd understand. I mean, I feel that we have the confirmed RoL mafia, thus we should lynch the active, persuasive one, rather than the one who's just chillin' mostly inactive. I'm sticking to my guns, for what it's worth. Swapping my vote now to try and convince you of my innocence would be pointless, and it's better to go down swinging for the fences. If RoL flips mafia, i'll vote Korynne tomorrow again. It'll basically be down to me and her trying to convince either you or Hobbes that the other is mafia, as I'm obviously not going to die tonight unless someone pulls a really really bonehead move. If RoL flips town, then we lose. I'll be awaiting the results. Uh, I proposed we lynch RoL because he is less active than you. So what, I get them to lynch you today and then what do I do tomorrow? Uh well... RoL...right... well he hasn't been around all game... uh... yeah. RoL: Oh look look, I am now magically active and here are 50 reasons why Korynne is mafia! Oh right, and I can't be mafia, I mean what kind of mafia is almost replaced out of a game for being inactive? We all know only vanilla townies do that! I'd rather take my chances with someone I can analyse and prove to Hobbes and XeliN is mafia than someone who makes no posts and leaves me with nothing to reason with. If I was mafia, leaving me would be BENEFICIAL to town. I talk a lot, you can analyze me and if you say anything I will respond. As town or mafia I see no reason for you not to leave me instead of RoL. Oh wait, but you're mafia, so you're scared I can prove to XeliN and Hobbes that you are mafia. You'd rather take your chances with someone that doesn't talk. Uh, if RoL flips mafia? I'm pretty sure that's a given. Right, I'll vote BrownBear tomorrow and you'll vote Korynne tomorrow. Anything else obvious you would like to point out to make yourself seem like you're contributing? Oh by the way, if RoL flips town, you win (or rather, we win), because you're mafia. xP But you know he won't flip town, so whatever. =P | ||
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(I still blame that on you and not me. =P) I mean, if I was mafia, and of course RoL would be my mafia buddy, then from his PM with you + whatever information I have it is clear that we should nightkill BrownBear, and then with you we can get d3 lynched ezpz. So given that I'm not retarded, I can't see how BrownBear can talk himself out of this situation. He seems to be the only one who believes he could've tried to convince people that XeliN and Hobbes were not 100% confirmed town after d3 flipped. | ||
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On May 01 2010 14:21 XeliN wrote: Oh damn I forgot one of us is going to die, Hobbes if you are the one left alive my choice would be Korynne, brownbear being capable of completely misunderstanding the situation seems logical, he also did something rlly idiotic in the other game but I can't remember what, and also it makes no sense that he would argue in that was as mafia (as it is just so plain far fetched in many ways). So yeah my choice would be Korynne and I would say that is by a large majority in my mind, but if you are left alive come to your own conclusion. For you now who is most likely? Oh great, being an idiot is apparently good now (even though we're lynching two idiots in the other gave and hoping they turn out mafia). This is my second mafia game people, same as BrownBear. I just refuse to play the idiot card to get by (even if it means I risk getting myself killed because I can make wrong analysis, this mostly applies to the other game since it's so big, here I feel like we can actually win and then you're flipping on me again XeliN). So he's idiotic enough to do something really retarded, but even if he was completely retarded he would not do that as a mafia? That makes a whole lot of sense. If he doesn't know how to play then he'd probably do something completely far-fetched and idiotic as mafia to try and get back in your favour. XeliN you might as well take back your 100% winning while you're at it. You still haven't presented any proof other than BrownBear going OMG I AM INNOCENT. I've presented plenty of proof why BrownBear is scum. You're making this way too easy to win for him. | ||
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On May 01 2010 14:31 BrownBear wrote: Popping back in, to say I resent the personal attacks, Korynne. I may be many things, but I am not retarded/an idiot. That actually kind of hurts. I don't mean to call you a retard. I am sorry if I offended you. What I mean is that XeliN's logic is flawed in that he thinks you might have just been idiotic and misunderstood something, but then says, oh wait, you can't be mafia because mafia would never do something stupid like that. So yeah, again, I'm sorry if you were hurt. =( That wasn't the intent or meaning behind my post. D= I just got carried away because we're so close and XeliN is still being silly and illogical in my mind. (I think XeliN should be the one bitching at me about being mean and calling him idiotic and illogical xD) | ||
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It was the first two days, and we didn't have much information... Please don't be hatin'. =[ | ||
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When/if everyone is around (me BrownBear and XeliN) can we vote (unanimously that is) to move day up? I'm saying that because I really don't want to be awake at 7am and all our posting time seems to be around ~13/14 KST anyway (since we were all up around that time last night and posted like 3 pages of stuff). | ||
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Vote: BrownBear Yeah BrownBear, we're both pretty much symbolically voting. xD | ||
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The main problem I had with this game was that I did not realize d3 would get his roleclaim before he died and was able to PM us. xD That screwed my gameplan over. >_> So I figured I would play the well look if I was mafia that'd be pretty retarded for me to ask d3 to check XeliN and then kill him. xD *sigh* Except XeliN refused to listen to my logic, silly him. xP I would've been /sooooo/ pissed if XeliN voted for me based on "instincts" though, because he would've just been "lucky" rather than deduced from something that I was mafia. =( | ||
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I mean, if I play pro-town and don't get checked by d3, there's no reason to kill me until you find the other mafia because I am actually trying to help (from my PoV, I am town, I am active, and I want to find the other mafia xP). | ||
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On May 03 2010 06:49 XeliN wrote: All in all this game was rlly fun, smaller ones can be better I think as it's quicker and more contained but the weird tense dynamic at the end, where one person knows exactly who the two mafia are (or ought to) and it's a tense struggle to lynch right//notget lynched.Was pretty enjoyable and unexpected. Thanks Bill for hosting ^^ Yeah I agree, this game felt a lot more manageable than the other one. Like I could actually write up an analysis on everyone whereas in the other game I just kinda went...awww fuck too many people/pages. @_@ Yeah thanks for hosting it Bill, even though I got really mad that d3 got his rolecheck back before I killed him. xP I guess it made the ending more dramatic and fun. =D | ||
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Also the fact that you were like gone for a long time after XeliN voted for me definitely helped hammer in the "see, he's just waiting for RoL so that they can both hammer me since Hobbes hasn't voted yet" | ||
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