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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 03:06 GMT
#521
On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:
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On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours.


yay <3 incognito.

I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy.


Reason?
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
April 19 2010 03:08 GMT
#522
On April 19 2010 11:25 tree.hugger wrote:
For all the talk earlier on about the role of assassins in the town, I think we need to understand that while assassin posting should aim towards prolonging the game; the town can't rely on the the assassins to act on the town's behalf. But here's something for dts to think about.

If you role-check an assassin, you should definitely get in contact with them. Remember that:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
Each Assassin will have two role checks to use per game, and two night kills per game.


Which means that finding an assassin can help you find other townies with which you can begin to develop a town circle. Not only that, but since the assassin's objective has absolutely no bearing on the game as a whole, detectives should be able to work in a pro-town way with the assassin. Remember that assassin hits...
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
If you manage to kill another Assassin with your night kill, it will be refunded.

... don't count against the assassin's total if they correctly hit another assassin. Therefore, detectives should be able to, if you play your card right, get the assassin to take out some spare mafia as well.

Therefore, DETECTIVES:
A) Rolecheck an assassin
B) Establish contact
C) Establish quid-pro-quo
D) Provide names, receive names
E) Establish more contacts
F) Order hits

Objections to this plan?

Except that's considering that the detective can PM assassins and vice-versa.

Oh and Incognito playing is certainly gonna change a few things around
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 03:09 GMT
#523
On April 19 2010 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:
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On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours.


yay <3 incognito.

I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy.


Reason?


reason: I don't like him, and he hates goats.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 03:21 GMT
#524
Hard to take you seriously
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TheLardyGooser
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada145 Posts
April 19 2010 03:22 GMT
#525
I know this might seem counter-intuitive, but at this stage of the game with nothing but speculation, flames and no clues, taking a random shot at this point has a 79% of killing a villager. Added to that the only people being accused of being "scummy" at this point are just people who are acting like jerks, and it would be a huge mistake to potentially cut off someone who could be valuable just because of a bad attitude.

I think Radfield is right in suggesting we go after inactives that won't get the mod hammer with our first lynch. That way regardless of whether we hit red or green, we will at least be narrowing down the field of players to those who will actually contribute and make the game more fun for everyone.

For example, whether or not we may feel that Caller is being scummy, it is day 1 and none of us really have anything concrete to go on besides the fact we may disagree with him. I just feel like it would be a waste to make an unfounded accusation and get rid of someone who is at least contributing to the game at large.

Just my two noob cents.
"Dust bit makes mountains"
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 03:26 GMT
#526
I agree as I said in my post in the previous page (that maybe got lost there :p)

Anyone has been checking who the inactives are as of now?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
April 19 2010 03:32 GMT
#527
I'll warn you right now LardyGooser, if you continue to mention your own noobiness whenever you make a point then I'm going to get you lynched. Even if you really don't know what you're doing, you can't be allowed to shirk responsibility of your opinions or defend yourself by way of inexperience.


Anyway, I agree with you and Radfield, if people are still inactive with 6 hours to go or so then we don't really need to worry about them. Even if they just post/vote at the last minute we can just pressure or kill them the next day. No townie that actually wants to win would use this strategy to lurk, so that's that.

Also, it isn't really that hard to go after/find people that are both largely inactive and suspicious too.


Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!
Cheese is good for you!
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 03:36 GMT
#528
On April 19 2010 12:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
Hard to take you seriously


My vote is as series as it gets, mate.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
April 19 2010 03:42 GMT
#529
On April 19 2010 12:26 IntoTheWow wrote:
I agree as I said in my post in the previous page (that maybe got lost there :p)

Anyone has been checking who the inactives are as of now?


There are far too many inactives to consider at this point imo... besides we can make a more educated decision...

@ Caller... perhaps I appeared non-commital before but I was fairly clear that we should steer away from inactives and instead try to nab one of the BM bandwagoners, since an inexperienced mafia might be tempted. Thelardygooser or whatever his name is, is an example of someone I would consider lynching. That and his constant "I am noob" excuses... For some reason Jugan is behaving somewhat Bill Murrayish... in a way that I haven't really seen him play before, so to me that something to keep my eye on.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 03:55 GMT
#530
Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it:


KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines)

RebirthOfLegend

Jugan (all 1 liners)

Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game)

RaGe (only sign up post)

[NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines)

Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines)

JadeFist

krndandaman

nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1)

Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post)

love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted)

jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1)

motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines)




Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc.
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nbtnbt5
Profile Joined March 2009
232 Posts
April 19 2010 04:01 GMT
#531
On April 19 2010 11:25 tree.hugger wrote:
For all the talk earlier on about the role of assassins in the town, I think we need to understand that while assassin posting should aim towards prolonging the game; the town can't rely on the the assassins to act on the town's behalf. But here's something for dts to think about.

If you role-check an assassin, you should definitely get in contact with them. Remember that:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
Each Assassin will have two role checks to use per game, and two night kills per game.


Which means that finding an assassin can help you find other townies with which you can begin to develop a town circle. Not only that, but since the assassin's objective has absolutely no bearing on the game as a whole, detectives should be able to work in a pro-town way with the assassin. Remember that assassin hits...
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
If you manage to kill another Assassin with your night kill, it will be refunded.

... don't count against the assassin's total if they correctly hit another assassin. Therefore, detectives should be able to, if you play your card right, get the assassin to take out some spare mafia as well.

Therefore, DETECTIVES:
A) Rolecheck an assassin
B) Establish contact
C) Establish quid-pro-quo
D) Provide names, receive names
E) Establish more contacts
F) Order hits

Objections to this plan?


afaik no role can PM in this round of mafia (i think it was stated earlier in this thread? or am i just wrong?)

On April 19 2010 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:My idea right now is that we should vote an inactive, to keep the game more fun of course, but also because it's safer. You might end up killing an inactive townie, but at the same time you could kill an inactive mafia OR a mafia playing it quiet and disguising himself as an inactive. If you are a townie, you should be definitely be joining the discussion.


(I know he isn't the only/first one to come up with this idea) I think this is actually the best solution out of all of the strategies/ideas mentioned. Sound logic is sound.
Yellow: "Well boxer's kind of a tool like that, wanting to bunker rush me all the time but hiding it behind all that deception."
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
April 19 2010 04:07 GMT
#532
On April 19 2010 12:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it:

+ Show Spoiler +

KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines)

RebirthOfLegend

Jugan (all 1 liners)

Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game)

RaGe (only sign up post)

[NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines)

Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines)

JadeFist

krndandaman

nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1)

Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post)

love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted)

jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1)

motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines)




Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc.


Quick defense of inactivity- was at a friend's weekend house since Friday, only checking TL on a mobile phone. Am going to sleep now, will be active on the thread tomorrow starting around 4-5 PM
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
April 19 2010 04:08 GMT
#533
4-5 PM meaning EDT, for clarification
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 19 2010 04:21 GMT
#534
On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote:
I'll warn you right now LardyGooser, if you continue to mention your own noobiness whenever you make a point then I'm going to get you lynched. Even if you really don't know what you're doing, you can't be allowed to shirk responsibility of your opinions or defend yourself by way of inexperience.


Anyway, I agree with you and Radfield, if people are still inactive with 6 hours to go or so then we don't really need to worry about them. Even if they just post/vote at the last minute we can just pressure or kill them the next day. No townie that actually wants to win would use this strategy to lurk, so that's that.

Also, it isn't really that hard to go after/find people that are both largely inactive and suspicious too.


Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!

Have you not read any of my previous posts about Goose boy? -_- I got everything you could possibly need already.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 04:27 GMT
#535
On April 19 2010 12:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it:


KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines)

RebirthOfLegend

Jugan (all 1 liners)

Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game)

RaGe (only sign up post)

[NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines)

Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines)

JadeFist

krndandaman

nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1)

Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post)

love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted)

jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1)

motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines)




Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc.


Incorrect. Go read again, sir. Frankly, I'm disappointed in your analysis. Additionally, a lot of the people you say "posts 1 liners" in fact offer insight and analysis that you either failed to read or are blatantly ignoring it in order to try and bolster your "point". I think the best course of action would be to lynch YOU as you are trying to get people to support your idea through false information and/or faulty logic.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 04:36 GMT
#536
Cute, but this is the longest post you have made in all the thread. Trolling around, having a foul mouth, and writting stuff no one gets here and there doesn't contribute at all. If you are going to bash on my work, then you might as well show me where's it's bad or provide something better yourself.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 04:43 GMT
#537
On April 19 2010 13:36 IntoTheWow wrote:
Cute, but this is the longest post you have made in all the thread. Trolling around, having a foul mouth, and writting stuff no one gets here and there doesn't contribute at all. If you are going to bash on my work, then you might as well show me where's it's bad or provide something better yourself.


Incorrect. Although I welcome you to reference the point where my "foul mouth" came into play, I will surely apologize for it. However, you are also incorrect and I ask you to simply stop flaunting your ignorance and reference yourself a few pages back where, in a single post, I have offered more insight and contributed man than you have in just a single post. I have, in fact, provided something better and have also shown you why your critically lacking analysis is bad.

In order for me to bash on your "work", you must have actually done something productive. Unfortunately, you have not, from what I have seen so far, fulfilled this requirement. Again, I respectfully request that you look over the thread once more, and not just in the last 10 posts of the thread so you may gain a better understanding of the direction the game is currently headed in.

As I mentioned in an earlier post that you blatantly decided to ignore, it is extremely unlikely that someone will garner the votes necessary to be lynched with so little time remaining. Thus, our best course of action is to analyze those who have posted thus far, keep a tally of the votes at hand, and ride out the first night until we get a better feel for our bearings.

I welcome you to start being product, and I await your apology.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
April 19 2010 04:44 GMT
#538
On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote:
Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!

Oh dammit.

I thought they had been put back in for some reason. I double checked, of course. Obviously.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 19 2010 04:45 GMT
#539
On April 19 2010 13:44 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote:
Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!

Oh dammit.

I thought they had been put back in for some reason. I double checked, of course. Obviously.


Fun note, we had already discussed this earlier in the thread via my own major post. So you failed on two counts. Reading is fun.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 19 2010 04:49 GMT
#540
On April 19 2010 10:56 Ace wrote:
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On April 19 2010 10:53 L wrote:
On April 19 2010 10:42 Ace wrote:
I think I'm just gonna afk out until someone smart starts posting. I'd rather play than teach this game.

Ok I posted.

Carry on.


You aren't playing though. Hell I'd even take you trying to get me lynched right now. At least when I fight for my life vs the incoming rape train it's funny. Oh well I hope the threat of modkills gets people posting ^_^.

I was about to take LMNOP's spot to take you up on that, but I realized I don't want to fail my exams :3.
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