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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 19 2010 01:53 GMT
#501
Lets not worry about WHO we're going to lynch yet. Lets form a plan on HOW we're going to lynch. Thereby ensuring we actually get a successful lynch.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 01:54:49
April 19 2010 01:54 GMT
#502
On April 19 2010 10:46 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 10:38 flamewheel91 wrote:
Reading through the last few pages, I'd also like you to consolidate your posts, Bill MurrayJugan.


They are consolidated.

@ qatol: I don't normally use that feature, so I didn't recognize it at first. I got it after I saw it though.

What I think he means is that while this post is consolidated nicely:
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On April 19 2010 10:11 Jugan wrote:
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On April 19 2010 09:05 Roffles wrote:
Yes, you could play it safe and kill off someone who's not doing anything, but I'd still say go big or go home. I think since we have some various factions at the moment, while it might not be the greatest idea, if we could kill off one of them, we might be able to grab a whiff at allegiances this early on in the game.


This is a good mentality to have. However, I think it's important to note that you can always tell who is active by who actually votes, and their pattern of voting. That is also a big reason why you don't need to worry about people that don't say anything... at first.

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On April 19 2010 09:31 TheLardyGooser wrote:
Just an idea, but could some of you fire hardened TLers offer up some good day 1 town strategies that have performed well in the past? It might help to re-focus the debate somewhat


I think the general strategy is to think as objectively as possible using the clues given. However, we can't do that as we are missing two very important parts - clues, and people thinking objectively. I expect there are going to be roughly 7 people dead tonight - 4 from Mafia, 1 from lynch, 2 from assassin. The best course of action right now, in my eyes, is to just accept it and analyze what people are saying.

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On April 19 2010 09:10 KF91 wrote:
So this is the list of people "inactives" who have posted after Caller's post:
- Fishball (Haven't expressed much thoughts, but according to him, he's only been up for about 2 hours)
- TheLardyGooser (Pushing for a new plan)
- tree.hugger (Talks about Abenson)
- Roffles (Just woke up from OSL tiebreakers)


Means nothing. Some people were sleeping. Some people have stuff to do IRL. Some people like to lurk. It can be interpreted in a million ways. And I think I misinterpreted your post when I read it due to the environment I was in, but I still want to lynch you :D

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On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote: I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.


OH NOES!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!1!111!1!!!ONE!!11!


These ones aren't (and some of them should probably just be done in PM/don't need to be posted):
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On April 19 2010 10:13 Jugan wrote:
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On April 19 2010 10:08 Osmoses wrote:
2. Ace and Caller are supposed to know what they're doing but they're shitting all over each other. I suspect at least one of them may be scum.


I think it's just two big egos duking it out. The power of the E-PENIS!

note: this post went up while I was crafting my previous one.

On April 19 2010 10:15 Jugan wrote:
Also scum = mafia? Scum is quite a harsh word lol.

On April 19 2010 10:20 Jugan wrote:
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On April 19 2010 10:18 flamewheel91 wrote:
First vote count up. For your convenience, remember that the vote count will be displayed in the thirdfourth (I can't count.) post of this thread whenever I update it.


Ah this is really helpful. Thanks flame! Btw, which mafia game was your first?

On April 19 2010 10:21 Jugan wrote:
Bill Murray (3)
motbob
[s]Ace[s]
AcrossFiveJulys
meeple

Typo flame. Should be (4) not 3.

AWWW I can't believe people want to lynch me! I'm so loveable! Like a goat!


Either way, any time you have 5 out of 6 posts in a row, you are probably doing some sort of unnecessary posting.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 19 2010 01:56 GMT
#503
On April 19 2010 10:53 L wrote:
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On April 19 2010 10:42 Ace wrote:
I think I'm just gonna afk out until someone smart starts posting. I'd rather play than teach this game.

Ok I posted.

Carry on.


You aren't playing though. Hell I'd even take you trying to get me lynched right now. At least when I fight for my life vs the incoming rape train it's funny. Oh well I hope the threat of modkills gets people posting ^_^.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 01:58 GMT
#504
except that one of them was in a response to a post that was made while I was crafting my original post.

Which I might add I NOTED in that post. GG.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
April 19 2010 02:02 GMT
#505
On April 19 2010 10:58 Jugan wrote:
except that one of them was in a response to a post that was made while I was crafting my original post.

Which I might add I NOTED in that post. GG.

And do you have an excuse for why the one after it couldn't have been consolidated?
Uff Da
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 19 2010 02:02 GMT
#506
On April 19 2010 10:58 Jugan wrote:
except that one of them was in a response to a post that was made while I was crafting my original post.

Which I might add I NOTED in that post. GG.

After I finish writing up any sort of long post, I always wait for a few minutes and refresh the thread, just in case something comes up that would invalidate/support/whatever a part of your post.

And why so hostile to Qatol? Offensive GGing is considered BM
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 02:04 GMT
#507
GG.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 02:04 GMT
#508
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 19 2010 02:07 GMT
#509
On April 19 2010 11:04 Bill Murray wrote:
GG.

On April 19 2010 11:04 Bill Murray wrote:

Seriously. Bill, what did I already tell you =.=
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 02:13 GMT
#510
On April 19 2010 11:02 Qatol wrote:
And do you have an excuse for why the one after it couldn't have been consolidated?


No, it was just an afterthought that I thought of. Next time I think of something like that I'll wait 30 minutes to post it (even though it may lose its relevancy). You got me, SIR!

P.S. 3 != 5 or 6

On April 19 2010 11:02 flamewheel91 wrote:
After I finish writing up any sort of long post, I always wait for a few minutes and refresh the thread, just in case something comes up that would invalidate/support/whatever a part of your post.

Offensive GGing is considered BM


Well you have my respect and admiration! In the games I play, they encourage us to post two and three times in a row as opposed to editing. Some of us need to focus on making our points and like to smile and hit that "submit" button when they are done with that section of their argument. Perhaps we forget to "check again" before we post, sometimes we are too tired to, and maybe we might not want to. I have a lot of bad habits I'm afraid, and I won't be up to constantly scrutinizing the thread before I say something unfortunately :/

I like to offensive GG and build MANNER CC like Skyhigh


I appreciate you guys running the mafia game, but I don't like some of the things you are doing. I've never had a problem with other mods and their game, and it feels like you guys are bashing on me and some other players which really takes the fun out of it. A huge part of this game is deception, politicking, and creating chaos. I'm not saying your words, views, ideas, arguments, or concept of how to run the game have no merit, just pointing out how it feels to me. Also, there are a bunch of things I dislike about the way this particular game is going, but I'm appreciating it as it is.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO LIVE UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS, SIR!
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
April 19 2010 02:25 GMT
#511
For all the talk earlier on about the role of assassins in the town, I think we need to understand that while assassin posting should aim towards prolonging the game; the town can't rely on the the assassins to act on the town's behalf. But here's something for dts to think about.

If you role-check an assassin, you should definitely get in contact with them. Remember that:
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
Each Assassin will have two role checks to use per game, and two night kills per game.


Which means that finding an assassin can help you find other townies with which you can begin to develop a town circle. Not only that, but since the assassin's objective has absolutely no bearing on the game as a whole, detectives should be able to work in a pro-town way with the assassin. Remember that assassin hits...
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
If you manage to kill another Assassin with your night kill, it will be refunded.

... don't count against the assassin's total if they correctly hit another assassin. Therefore, detectives should be able to, if you play your card right, get the assassin to take out some spare mafia as well.

Therefore, DETECTIVES:
A) Rolecheck an assassin
B) Establish contact
C) Establish quid-pro-quo
D) Provide names, receive names
E) Establish more contacts
F) Order hits

Objections to this plan?
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
April 19 2010 02:26 GMT
#512
On April 19 2010 11:13 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 11:02 Qatol wrote:
And do you have an excuse for why the one after it couldn't have been consolidated?


No, it was just an afterthought that I thought of. Next time I think of something like that I'll wait 30 minutes to post it (even though it may lose its relevancy). You got me, SIR!

P.S. 3 != 5 or 6

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 11:02 flamewheel91 wrote:
After I finish writing up any sort of long post, I always wait for a few minutes and refresh the thread, just in case something comes up that would invalidate/support/whatever a part of your post.

Offensive GGing is considered BM


Well you have my respect and admiration! In the games I play, they encourage us to post two and three times in a row as opposed to editing. Some of us need to focus on making our points and like to smile and hit that "submit" button when they are done with that section of their argument. Perhaps we forget to "check again" before we post, sometimes we are too tired to, and maybe we might not want to. I have a lot of bad habits I'm afraid, and I won't be up to constantly scrutinizing the thread before I say something unfortunately :/

I like to offensive GG and build MANNER CC like Skyhigh


I appreciate you guys running the mafia game, but I don't like some of the things you are doing. I've never had a problem with other mods and their game, and it feels like you guys are bashing on me and some other players which really takes the fun out of it. A huge part of this game is deception, politicking, and creating chaos. I'm not saying your words, views, ideas, arguments, or concept of how to run the game have no merit, just pointing out how it feels to me. Also, there are a bunch of things I dislike about the way this particular game is going, but I'm appreciating it as it is.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO LIVE UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS, SIR!

Actually, I said 5 OF 6. Either way, that's not a big deal. The point is to try not to spam too much when it isn't necessary.

I promise, we aren't really bashing on people. We are just trying to keep the shitstorm to a minimum because we don't want it to get too far out of hand. So it isn't really what you're saying so much as how you're saying it. Just try not to abuse your fellow players too much. (Speaking hypothetically) I could say that I think BC's medic plan is dangerous and is unlikely to have good results. Or, I could call him a fucking moron who has no idea how to play the game. The message is the same, but the atmosphere is very different. Just trying to keep the focus on the game.

Either way, I think I'm done with the backseat moderating for right now. Have fun, flamewheel!
Uff Da
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 02:41:44
April 19 2010 02:36 GMT
#513
Thanks, Qatol. Jugan--I am not bashing on you. I'm a lot stricter than most moderators on TL since I believe in more... perfect... wrong word, but whatever, games. That is to say, I don't like the flaming, spamming, etc. that goes on in games. It puts people off, and dissuades them from playing in future mafia games on Team Liquid. I've received PMs from people stating "well I won't play when X plays" and other forms of grievances against their fellow mafia players. If you do have a problem with me personally, I'm more than willing to correspond through PMs.

On a more official note:
Incognito is stepping in to replace Elemenope, who due to outside circumstances is forced to step back (which is also why he wasn't posting).

Thanks to Incognito for being so willing to step in on such short notice^^
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 02:42 GMT
#514
I find it funny that the moderators have more posts than 3/4ths of the people in this game
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 02:44 GMT
#515
LOL
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
April 19 2010 02:46 GMT
#516
Right now it seems like anyone making a plan is getting lynched. We should definitely learn a lesson from this : p

As Radfield said, we should make a plan right now and set a basis not on who to vote, but how to. Based on what, or with what in mind.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 02:54 GMT
#517
On April 19 2010 11:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
Right now it seems like anyone making a plan is getting lynched. We should definitely learn a lesson from this : p

As Radfield said, we should make a plan right now and set a basis not on who to vote, but how to. Based on what, or with what in mind.


Are you saying we dont need a plan?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 19 2010 03:00 GMT
#518
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 03:02 GMT
#519
On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours.


yay <3 incognito.

I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
April 19 2010 03:06 GMT
#520
No, on the contrary, I'm just saying everyone is trying to disband any plan brought up.

On the other hand, I don't know if I missed some posts, but some people questioned stuff about your plan and you ignored their posts (AcrossFiveJulys I think was one). Care to explain?

I'm all in for following a strategy, at least early on when we have nothing to work on, but we need to be consensus, not just ideas thrown around.

To be honest I don't think we can use Assassins to our advantage, unless not early on. When they start rolling with role checks and kills maybe we can read them better.

My idea right now is that we should vote an inactive, to keep the game more fun of course, but also because it's safer. You might end up killing an inactive townie, but at the same time you could kill an inactive mafia OR a mafia playing it quiet and disguising himself as an inactive. If you are a townie, you should be definitely be joining the discussion.

The question of course is what inactive to lynch. I picked Caller initially, because he knew the game rules about modkill and everything, but he decided to stay quiet. He's talking now (after getting a good number of votes, don't know what to make on that yet), so I'm going to change my vote probably to follow the strategy I think works best for now.

From the rest of the list of inactives I don't know how many of the others played before since this is my first time at TL Mafia.

Ok, the ball is rolling, anyone has any ideas? previous game information on who on the list should be active but isn't?
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