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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 18 2010 22:12 GMT
#441
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2010 22:15 GMT
#442
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.


You brought up something in your post here that i was just thinking about. I thought it was strange that as soon as you began to accuse Caller, he threw out the name of nai.protoss as a litmus test for his innocence.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 18 2010 22:16 GMT
#443
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.

To be honest, now that I read it again, your post wasn't as much of a WifoM as I had thought the first time.

The reason I suspect nai.protoss now is because he demonstrated that while he reads the posts, he doesn't read the posts. Not only that, but he came out of nowhere to do the very thing I said not to do and left without responding to my allegations. I can see the situation very clearly (this happened to me multiple times in the previous mafia as follows):

a) I make a retarded post. LMNOP and Shinbi-chan are like WTF CALLER UR A FUCKIN MORON
b) They tell me to stfu and Shinbi-chan posts a load of bullcrap to derail anybody from noticing my fishy as shit posts.
c) everything goes back to normal.

What's to think the same thing didn't happen here?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 18 2010 22:18 GMT
#444
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 18 2010 22:21 GMT
#445
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to suck my dick. You've also been posting useless crap and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
April 18 2010 22:23 GMT
#446
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to suck my dick. You've also been posting useless crap and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Caller, keep it G rated please.
Uff Da
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 22:27:14
April 18 2010 22:26 GMT
#447
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to suck my dick. You've also been posting useless crap and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Bad Caller. Bad!
Edit: beaten by Qatol. Should've refreshed.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 18 2010 22:27 GMT
#448
On April 19 2010 07:23 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to please my superego through an application of sensual forces to my personification of my morality. You've also been posting useless cellulose and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Caller, keep it G rated please.

fix'd
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2010 22:29 GMT
#449
On April 19 2010 07:16 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.

To be honest, now that I read it again, your post wasn't as much of a WifoM as I had thought the first time.

The reason I suspect nai.protoss now is because he demonstrated that while he reads the posts, he doesn't read the posts. Not only that, but he came out of nowhere to do the very thing I said not to do and left without responding to my allegations. I can see the situation very clearly (this happened to me multiple times in the previous mafia as follows):

a) I make a retarded post. LMNOP and Shinbi-chan are like WTF CALLER UR A FUCKIN MORON
b) They tell me to stfu and Shinbi-chan posts a load of bullcrap to derail anybody from noticing my fishy as shit posts.
c) everything goes back to normal.

What's to think the same thing didn't happen here?


Okay, thanks for explaining your reasoning behind choosing Nai. Like i said at least it forced him to post, however briefly. But really you could have picked one of several names, and it seemed like you just picked nai.protoss because he happened to be making a bad post at the same time you were posting (refer to my large list). Who's really to say - maybe his mafia buddies yelled at him, or maybe he got intimidated by the rising argument here and wanted out? It's all speculation imo. But i understand what you're saying here. If we're going to lynch a semi-inactive/useless poster, right now nai.protoss is as good a choice as any.

Nai.protoss, if you're innocent, it's a bad idea to just disappear away like that since it just makes things even more suspicious.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:29 GMT
#450
On April 19 2010 07:16 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.

To be honest, now that I read it again, your post wasn't as much of a WifoM as I had thought the first time.

The reason I suspect nai.protoss now is because he demonstrated that while he reads the posts, he doesn't read the posts. Not only that, but he came out of nowhere to do the very thing I said not to do and left without responding to my allegations. I can see the situation very clearly (this happened to me multiple times in the previous mafia as follows):

a) I make a retarded post. LMNOP and Shinbi-chan are like WTF CALLER UR A FUCKIN MORON
b) They tell me to stfu and Shinbi-chan posts a load of bullcrap to derail anybody from noticing my fishy as shit posts.
c) everything goes back to normal.

What's to think the same thing didn't happen here?


If you look at other threads you will see this is my first game. The two mafia type players you described before were the quite members that pretty much agreed with townies and offered no opinion themselves, and the experienced mafia members which appeared to be extremely pro-town.

Now why would an inexperienced member of the mafia do the exact thing that you just stated as showing mafia members. No reason what so ever. An inexperienced townie however that doesn't want to get lynched for being inactive, but also is to inexperienced to actually add anything to the conversation has nothing to lose from agreeing with the "experienced townie".
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 22:30:49
April 18 2010 22:29 GMT
#451
On April 19 2010 07:26 flamewheel91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to suck my dick. You've also been posting useless crap and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Bad Caller. Bad!
Edit: beaten by Qatol. Should've refreshed.

Too slow!

On April 19 2010 07:27 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:23 Qatol wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to please my superego through an application of sensual forces to my personification of my morality. You've also been posting useless cellulose and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Caller, keep it G rated please.

fix'd

Excellent! See, THIS is an example of the type of things this thread should be striving for as a way to entertain those of us on the sidelines. Caller, I salute you!
Uff Da
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:31 GMT
#452
I am trying to post as often as I can to explain why I am not mafia but I also need to study for midterms and can't refresh every 5 minutes :s
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 18 2010 22:32 GMT
#453
On April 19 2010 07:29 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:16 Caller wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.

To be honest, now that I read it again, your post wasn't as much of a WifoM as I had thought the first time.

The reason I suspect nai.protoss now is because he demonstrated that while he reads the posts, he doesn't read the posts. Not only that, but he came out of nowhere to do the very thing I said not to do and left without responding to my allegations. I can see the situation very clearly (this happened to me multiple times in the previous mafia as follows):

a) I make a retarded post. LMNOP and Shinbi-chan are like WTF CALLER UR A FUCKIN MORON
b) They tell me to stfu and Shinbi-chan posts a load of bullcrap to derail anybody from noticing my fishy as shit posts.
c) everything goes back to normal.

What's to think the same thing didn't happen here?


If you look at other threads you will see this is my first game. The two mafia type players you described before were the quite members that pretty much agreed with townies and offered no opinion themselves, and the experienced mafia members which appeared to be extremely pro-town.

Now why would an inexperienced member of the mafia do the exact thing that you just stated as showing mafia members. No reason what so ever. An inexperienced townie however that doesn't want to get lynched for being inactive, but also is to inexperienced to actually add anything to the conversation has nothing to lose from agreeing with the "experienced townie".

You're already judging yourself to having nothing to add? Are you kidding?

I'm telling you this now: whenever "experienced townies" take control of the town, town tends to lose pretty hard. Say something! We need people to think outside of the box, both in game and for the metagame. What do you have to say? Do you have anything to say? Would you even like to justify your vote for me?

Just because some "big name" player with a x000 post count is talking doesn't mean they know what they're talking about. Look at me or L for instance. We need inexperienced players to think outside of the mafia box to give us better ideas for gameplay. Say something!
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:40 GMT
#454
I think that the mafia are laughing at us right now. I don't believe that Ace, Caller, or iNfuNdiBuLuM are mafia. I think that the mafia are just sitting back and letting us tear eachother's throats out.

I voted for you because I didn't want to miss the vote first off, and at the time I thought that you were scared of being lynched so you were just trying to take me out before you were killed. The more you post the more I want to change my vote. But until I can find somone better to vote for it remains on you.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 18 2010 22:48 GMT
#455
On April 19 2010 07:27 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:23 Qatol wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:21 Caller wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.

I'll wait 3 hours.

why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days!

Okay, something I need to point out here:

You've basically been running around as if you're trying to please my superego through an application of sensual forces to my personification of my morality. You've also been posting useless cellulose and banalities and trolls. You clearly read my post because you acknowledge it, yet you make no attempt to do anything I said. I'm not entirely sure if you're trying to be ironic or what, but you just put yourself on my suspect list.

Caller, keep it G rated please.

fix'd

LOL.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 18 2010 22:59 GMT
#456
Oh cool, the finger-pointing has started. I've always found these Day 1 arguments sort of silly, but I do believe I've discerned the purpose as to them now.

Between Caller and Ace, I'm doubting Caller's mafia. Given there was a reason why we kept his trap shut for most of WaW it doesn't seem out of character as far as his posting goes, though I take issue that he'd go with a "if he flips green then you lynch me" play.

Actually, I think we should lynch Jugan for these fine little posts that he keeps dangling in front of our eyes - always the slim lines of text, like a slim spaghetti-strap sliding down a shoulder, as our good friend Day[9] would put it - always teasing, but never any satisfaction.

Okay, that's enough of that. In addition, there's that vote he put on KF91 that makes absolutely no sense at all. Any comments of substance you'd like to make there?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 18 2010 23:01 GMT
#457
Let's add love1another to that list while we're at it. If you're going to vote, say something in the thread instead about why you decided on who!
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
TheLardyGooser
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada145 Posts
April 18 2010 23:05 GMT
#458
I know its been shotgunned to death at this point, but I still feel like BM's plan, if not in terms of hunting down assassins, but rather in terms of a general role call. I am speaking from inexperience here, but aren't the mafia heavily outnumbered? Wouldn't a direct roll call at least be able to spread around some suspicion when we compare it to the number of each group? I feel like it would give us a pretty good start and at least let us have some idea of who to lay the hammer down on with our first lynch as there are bound to be some glaring inconsistancies.

To me anyway, the discussion at this point seems to be people flaming each other back and forth, largely due to inactivity. Again, this is my first time, but it seems counter intuitive to just flame back and forth when at this point we don't really know anything?

Lets make a plan!
"Dust bit makes mountains"
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 18 2010 23:17 GMT
#459
On April 19 2010 06:41 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 06:11 Foolishness wrote:
On April 18 2010 15:20 TheLardyGooser wrote:
I knew Bill Murray was smart, but this plan seems fool proof. Being a fool and a total newwwb I can respect that.

Altair, please leave me be when the night comes

...what the hell...

I was going to "nobody cares" that post...but honestly I think voting will do a much better job.

Fishball...where are you...?


I was out for the second half of the day yesterday till late.
I only woke up now.

I'm curious why you call me out though.

So BM made a list, similar to Ace's proposal in Caller's Russia Mafia, and a lot of people have already pointed out the flaws. It's hard to tell whether BM is an Assassin trying to hunt for other Assassins, or a plain townie just trying to contribute.

Then we also have a small group of people jumping on Caller for being "inactive".

I just miss you that's all. Lack of Fishball posting is

On April 19 2010 07:48 TheLardyGooser wrote:
##Vote Foolishness

He started it

How subtle...yet not. How odd you choose to just counter vote, and not say anything in the thread. How strange that I just wanted an explanation for your cryptic post, and you refuse to answer. Yes yes...things are not looking good for you at all.
On April 19 2010 08:05 TheLardyGooser wrote:
I know its been shotgunned to death at this point, but I still feel like BM's plan, if not in terms of hunting down assassins, but rather in terms of a general role call. I am speaking from inexperience here, but aren't the mafia heavily outnumbered? Wouldn't a direct roll call at least be able to spread around some suspicion when we compare it to the number of each group? I feel like it would give us a pretty good start and at least let us have some idea of who to lay the hammer down on with our first lynch as there are bound to be some glaring inconsistancies.

To me anyway, the discussion at this point seems to be people flaming each other back and forth, largely due to inactivity. Again, this is my first time, but it seems counter intuitive to just flame back and forth when at this point we don't really know anything?

Lets make a plan!

Oh wait a minute, you did post in the thread now...but what the heck is this? Nothing in response to me? I guess I wouldn't take me very seriously either but please. Don't make it obvious on yourself.

The beauty of it is, I know you're all excited from this Ace-Caller argument and think you can post that and get away with it, but let me tell you: somebody always notices. Always the person who you least suspect too. And it may not be today or tomorrow, but in the future, someone will realize. And then you truly will have nothing to say and no response can save your own future.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 18 2010 23:23 GMT
#460
Thank you Ace for simply stopping your relentless attacks
I also think it a good idea to wait and compile his posts.

Anyways, I think we should be focused on other issues,
Like whether we should implement the BM assassin plan

I'm against it, but I think it be best we talk over it.

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