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On April 19 2010 06:43 Ace wrote: After reading Caller's last set of posts I don't think anyone can honestly say he's making sense lol. Fine Ace, let's make a bet.
We lynch nai.protoss today. Let's see what affiliation he turns up. If he's town, then I volunteer myself to be lynched the following day. If he's scum, then your chainsaw defense speaks for itself.
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How about I have a better bet: We lynch you for throwing around terms to make yourself sound smart when you don't know what they mean.
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Go ahead Caller, explain to the class how this is an example of chainsaw defense.
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On April 19 2010 06:50 Ace wrote: How about I have a better bet: We lynch you for throwing around terms to make yourself sound smart when you don't know what they mean. That's not exactly a bet, seeing as how . And it's pretty obvious what the terms are. You may not read those statements as WifoM but I see an insinuation of such a statement behind it. And if you have nothing to fear from nai.Protoss flipping, especially when he's not contributing and proves that he's just flooding the thread with random, meaningless posts, then there's no reason for you to go after my throat directly and not simply demonstrate that I am a piece of shit by accepting the bet.
The bet stands.
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Oh I didn't say it was chainsaw defense necessarily. I was saying that if he flips scum, the fact that you attacked me and my credibility directly instead of demonstrating how/why you think my posts are bs certainly doesn't make you look as good, does it? And that it could possibly be construed as a chainsaw defense, which makes you look like shit if nai.Protoss flips. That was my argument.
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I raise. We lynch you today, then if you were right, we lynch nai.protoss lol
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Caller stop bsing. I don't see why nai.Protoss flipping anything = me fearing the results. That has nothing to do with me. This is all about you.
1.) You tried to call Infun on a Wifom argument when you clearly don't know what it is.
2.) You tried to call me on Chainsaw Defense when I called you out before nai.Protoss even posted. If anything, and if you were even trying to read the thread you might have been more keen to question Foolishness who parroted you.
3.) Thinking that Wifom and CD are automatic scum tells means you yourself are just trying to throw dirt and sound smart. So stop grasping for straws. I'm not betting on some other player's life/alignment when the question of the moment has everything to do with YOU.
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I made one post that could be considered "random" and then explained it moments later.
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On April 19 2010 06:56 Caller wrote: Oh I didn't say it was chainsaw defense necessarily. I was saying that if he flips scum, the fact that you attacked me and my credibility directly instead of demonstrating how/why you think my posts are bs certainly doesn't make you look as good, does it? And that it could possibly be construed as a chainsaw defense, which makes you look like shit if nai.Protoss flips. That was my argument.
no.
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On April 19 2010 06:46 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:43 Ace wrote: After reading Caller's last set of posts I don't think anyone can honestly say he's making sense lol. Fine Ace, let's make a bet. We lynch nai.protoss today. Let's see what affiliation he turns up. If he's town, then I volunteer myself to be lynched the following day. If he's scum, then your chainsaw defense speaks for itself. How do we know you're not pulling an L? "Guys listen to me, if I'm wrong I volunteer myself." Next day: "Guys, anybody could have made that mistake. THIS time I know I'm right though, listen to me, let's lynch person X." -_-
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On April 19 2010 06:57 IntoTheWow wrote: I raise. We lynch you today, then if you were right, we lynch nai.protoss lol I would accept, but lynching me proves absolutely nothing about anybody. When I flip innocent you can't pin anything on nai.protoss because I don't have any information about him, and he might really just be a new player that doesn't read other people's posts and instead worries about dying from inactivity. Lynching nai.protoss gives everybody some information about the affiliations of me and Ace. Especially when he hasn't posted since I accused him.
Actually, Ace's refusal to take the bet is of a lot of interest.
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How about lynch me. I flip green, then you both die!
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On April 19 2010 07:01 madnessman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:46 Caller wrote:On April 19 2010 06:43 Ace wrote: After reading Caller's last set of posts I don't think anyone can honestly say he's making sense lol. Fine Ace, let's make a bet. We lynch nai.protoss today. Let's see what affiliation he turns up. If he's town, then I volunteer myself to be lynched the following day. If he's scum, then your chainsaw defense speaks for itself. How do we know you're not pulling an L? "Guys listen to me, if I'm wrong I volunteer myself." Next day: "Guys, anybody could have made that mistake. THIS time I know I'm right though, listen to me, let's lynch person X." -_- unlike L, I'm not mafia, and I will gladly vote for myself and post a "vote for me" multiple times in the thread. If I don't do that you can assume I'm mafia and lynch me anyways.
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On April 19 2010 06:59 Ace wrote: Caller stop bsing. I don't see why nai.Protoss flipping anything = me fearing the results. That has nothing to do with me. This is all about you.
1.) You tried to call Infun on a Wifom argument when you clearly don't know what it is.
2.) You tried to call me on Chainsaw Defense when I called you out before nai.Protoss even posted. If anything, and if you were even trying to read the thread you might have been more keen to question Foolishness who parroted you.
3.) Thinking that Wifom and CD are automatic scum tells means you yourself are just trying to throw dirt and sound smart. So stop grasping for straws. I'm not betting on some other player's life/alignment when the question of the moment has everything to do with YOU.
I think caller has some good points! Maybe you are trying to confuse us to THROW US OFF YOUR SCENT!
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I don't know why you think us lynching you has to give us information on anyone else. You just appear to be scummy. That seems like a good reason to be lynched. Killing nai.protoss has no bearing on anyone else because there hasn't been a situation where we can honestly say "these players are on the same team/different team".
Caller the more you post the more bs comes out of your mouth. Town, I propose everyone vote for Caller and get rid of him now.
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Hmm... Caller is always interesting. I propose we keep him for a bit. He is a veteran, after all. If he's not mafia he'll benefit us.
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Yeah, the more I read, the more Caller seems to keep his calm, while Ace jumps on him more and more. I don't know what to do now. I originally voted Caller just cause of inactivity, but as he's posting now, I thinkk I'm going to change my vote.
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Emotional state has nothing to do with innocence. Trust me I'm calm as always, I can just tell when someone is bullshitting and Caller is posting blatant nonsense.
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Ace there are only three reasons why you don't want to take this bet:
a) You think I'm mafia and am trying to take someone out with me before I go down. b) You are mafia and you know that nai.protoss is scummy and therefore may look bad on you. c) You are town but think nai.protoss is scummy and therefore may look bad on you.
Let's think about your arguments for me being mafia: a) You say I don't make any sense in my arguments. Possibly true but not intentional. b) You say I don't know mafia terms properly. Possibly true but not intentional. c) You say that whenever I don't say anything I'm scum. This is not the case as anyone that has seen past games knows that I feign inactivity as town alignment as well as talk a lot as mafia alignment. You should know this seeing as how Showtime, BC, and I were all blabbing our mouths off in that hilarious game and yet we were all scum aligned.
In other words, your entire argument for me basically boils down to being technical (and without any analysis for the rest of town to judge as they see fit).
Right now, it is your word against mine. I'm willing to back my word with a promise to advocate my own lynch on day 2 (breaking it of course means I'm scum and should be lynched anyways). What about you?
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I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.
and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.
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