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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
October 16 2011 03:30 GMT
#1881
That's why all hosts should post sample role PMs in the OP and strictly stick to them (not get lazy with colours ).

In my defense I never asked Palmar about his role PM, he went and outed that stuff by himself.
wat
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 16 2011 09:39 GMT
#1882
I was never a fan of discussing role PMs...

I will edit all of this on Monday night. Last test finishes then.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 16 2011 17:56 GMT
#1883
On October 16 2011 12:30 Curu wrote:
That's why all hosts should post sample role PMs in the OP and strictly stick to them (not get lazy with colours ).

In my defense I never asked Palmar about his role PM, he went and outed that stuff by himself.

I don't even want a warning for You, discussing role PMs is just bullshit and stupid way of catching scum/whatever You want, in my opinion trying to get something out of them is outright cheating.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 17 2011 21:24 GMT
#1884
Yeah, discussion of role pms pretty much broke your ninja TL mafia
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:03:50
October 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#1885
On October 16 2011 07:34 Kurumi wrote:
I'd like to get a new rule to the rulelist of cheating.. discussing role pms should be forbidden.

This should really go in the model OP thread, not here. And I think it is already covered, but it can be made more explicit if you wish.

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
[...]
6. Posting any PM you receive from a host.


Last time I checked, role PMs came from the host. If you want, "Posting" can be changed to "Discussing" though so PM/IRC/etc are more clearly covered (although I think the current rules already cover them). Also it can say "(including role PMs)" at the end.

EDIT: I just realized that "Discussing" means you can't post rolecheck results. However, you get the idea of what I'm thinking of. Suggestions on the exact language would be welcome.
Uff Da
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
October 18 2011 00:15 GMT
#1886
It should be up to the host. If you don't want PM discussion, say so in YOUR op.

Personally, so long as there are sample PMs, and the host is willing to write a fake PM for any scum claim, IMO the posting of your exact role shouldn't be forbidden.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 18 2011 00:34 GMT
#1887
I think there are a couple of things that need to be done because its been present in 7 of the last 8 games I've played and its really something that shouldn't be allowed.

1) Hosts need to be more careful by making sure the pms match the OP or provide the scum team a copy of the pms the moment the game begins.
2) Players need to be aware that its against the rules and considered cheating, which may lead to a modkill or ban.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 00:43 GMT
#1888
If discussing role PMs is a bannable offense then the whole point of a fake claim is pretty much out the window.

In XLV the problem simply came down to an inconsistency with colors. That is, IMO, a host problem, not a player problem.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
October 18 2011 00:53 GMT
#1889
when you host just post example role pms of vanilla townies in the op/give them to scum.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 18 2011 01:22 GMT
#1890
I post exactly what the role PMs will say in my games. Makes it very easy.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 02:34:03
October 18 2011 01:55 GMT
#1891
VisceraEyes is noted as sitting out Pick Your Power Interesting.
Sprungjeezy is noted as sitting out Pick Your Power Interesting.
Erandorr is now on the ban list for the first time with a one game sitout because of Cosmic Horror Mafia.
tnkted has a warning from Kurumi for TL Mafia XLV.
Mr. Zergling is removed from the list since TL Mafia XLV has concluded.
BloodyC0bbler is noted as sitting out Pick Your Power Interesting.

List updated.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 02:32:15
October 18 2011 02:31 GMT
#1892
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&currentpage=5#99

On October 03 2011 14:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
/sitout



Sorry for not following general procedures
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 18 2011 06:55 GMT
#1893
Sevryn is sitting out PYP Interesting
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 18 2011 06:56 GMT
#1894
Updated, thank you.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
October 18 2011 11:34 GMT
#1895
On October 18 2011 15:56 flamewheel wrote:
Updated, thank you.

^_^

Bans for SNMMVI coming this afternoon then.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 12:45:18
October 18 2011 12:44 GMT
#1896
I am sitting out PYPI too...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&currentpage=5#94
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&currentpage=9#173
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 18 2011 13:19 GMT
#1897
In the future, please post in this thread that you are sitting out. Updated.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 18 2011 14:18 GMT
#1898
On October 18 2011 22:19 flamewheel wrote:
In the future, please post in this thread that you are sitting out. Updated.

Will do, sorry.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 14:33:30
October 18 2011 14:33 GMT
#1899
Also higlighting this change, since I think people will miss it unless I point it out, and we wouldn't want that to happen

Banlist Says:
To sit out a game, you must do these two things during the signups of that game (assuming you are not currently sitting out a different game and the game in which you were banned has finished):
1. PM the host of the game you are sitting out saying you are sitting out that game.
2. Post here that you are sitting out that game..

If you cannot point me to a post or PM clearly stating "I am sitting out XYZ Mafia," you are not sitting out that game


Note that you must do both things to get off the balist.

fw, I assume this is in effect after PYP:I ends, right?
Moderator
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 18 2011 15:54 GMT
#1900
Yeah just changing ahead of time. It makes it easier on me since I no longer have time to sift through all the pre-game spam in TL Mafia and there's also a host to remind me if I forget / said person trying to get off ban list forgets to post.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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