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On February 17 2010 08:58 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote: without detectives all we have are behavioral analysis and voting patterns, right? i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played Ok, I have a bit of unexpected downtime I can get online for. My thoughts: Detectives get killed instantly when it's town vs ONE mafia. When there are two mafias, DT's are at least as useful to the mafia as they are to the town, if they can convince a DT to tell them who is in the other mafia family. Therefore, DT's claiming, while it may not be the smartest thing to do, depending on the situation, is by no means suicidal to the DT.
My main point for having the DT's roleclaim is so that they don't get accidentally hit by the mafia, also they can clear greens so they won't get hit either. It helps the town survive, and helps more mafia get killed.
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On February 17 2010 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +Hi there, from your posts it's pretty clear to me that you are a blue role. Most likely a DT or medic. You should probably quit hinting at it so much.
You don't need to necessarily trust me yet and tell me what you really are. My innocence will become apparent with time and once it is clear I'll be waiting for you to contact me.
But I do want your trust and sooner than later; thus I'll be the one to offer the first gesture.
I'm a Mad Hatter. This is from a PM Ver sent me. In case I die, I wanted to pass this on. He might not be lying, but this and his supporting of redtooth made me believe he might be red. when did that happen.
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before I was obviously green.
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On February 17 2010 09:03 Bill Murray wrote: before I was obviously green. give me a timestamp.
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On February 17 2010 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +Hi there, from your posts it's pretty clear to me that you are a blue role. Most likely a DT or medic. You should probably quit hinting at it so much.
You don't need to necessarily trust me yet and tell me what you really are. My innocence will become apparent with time and once it is clear I'll be waiting for you to contact me.
But I do want your trust and sooner than later; thus I'll be the one to offer the first gesture.
I'm a Mad Hatter. This is from a PM Ver sent me. In case I die, I wanted to pass this on. He might not be lying, but this and his supporting of redtooth made me believe he might be red.
Ver would you back this up?
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by waiting until 7 to post that, i don't think mafia can switch their hit to him can they? he's probably lying anyways. but.. if he's not... won't he be able to plant 2 bombs now anyways and get to his maximum effectiveness?
sorry to throw you out there, ver, if you ARE blue... but i don't think they're going to want to mess with a mad hatter anyways.
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I was going to just send it to citi.zen, but i don't trust him yet.
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On February 17 2010 09:05 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:Hi there, from your posts it's pretty clear to me that you are a blue role. Most likely a DT or medic. You should probably quit hinting at it so much.
You don't need to necessarily trust me yet and tell me what you really are. My innocence will become apparent with time and once it is clear I'll be waiting for you to contact me.
But I do want your trust and sooner than later; thus I'll be the one to offer the first gesture.
I'm a Mad Hatter. This is from a PM Ver sent me. In case I die, I wanted to pass this on. He might not be lying, but this and his supporting of redtooth made me believe he might be red. Ver would you back this up? he does. i've talked to him about it but i want to know when it was sent.
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like before either of us were running for office
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On February 17 2010 09:08 Bill Murray wrote: like before either of us were running for office go to your pm folder. find the timestamp. post.
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On February 16 2010 23:43 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote:On February 16 2010 14:40 Chezinu wrote: What does tredmasta, Phrujbaz, ohN, and MasterDana have in common?
They all abstain. They all ignored my pm's. They shall be on the mafia' hit list. lolwut. Abstained due to no real clear choice for presidency, and my question about how important a Mayor can be went unanswered, so I reverted to abstain. Pretty telling post, MasterDana. First time I see you posting something with substance since your candidacy. Also, pleading ignorance means you're either a very lazy townie, or mafia. Pleading ignorance is a very common mafia defense. Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote: Why did we lynch Empyrean? Going off of posting habits seems like a real stretch unless there's a hugggeeee difference. I haven't played any previous games, but reading Ver's post about Empyrean's posting habits didn't seem all that drastic. Different, of course, but enough to lynch? Not really. Alas, lynched anyways and a green lays dead. Was Ver wrong, or trying to mislead us? Regardless, I think most agree that Redtooth hanging Empyrean was a mistake for the Townies, if he is indeed supporting them. Here, you're trying to cast suspicion on both Ver and redtooth, with extremely weak argumentation. Mislead us into lynching a townie? Why would Ver want to do that, if he was mafia? Clearly, a mafia member would've preferred to lynch a mafia from the opposite team. Same goes for redtooth. So why make these weak accusations behind them? Because you're feeling the heat, and want to shift it to someone else. Again, this is scummy behavior; if you make a weak accusation, you're not only diverting attention from yourself and giving the appearance of someone who's contributing, you're also not committing to anything because the accusation is weak. Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote: Awkward collection of thoughts, but the point I'm trying to get across is that my faith in Redtooth as a pro-townie mayor is thin. Pardon the swear, but this couldn't be more half-assed. Trying to make yourself sound like the victim whose trust has been violated, who is ignorant of how he should vote and who expresses weak feelings of distrust like an injured deer... I don't buy it. What do you have to say for yourself, MasterDana?
Ah, but it is the truth! Being my first game, I really do not know how strong a mayor or pardoner can be. I threw a random vote out, but after seeing someone who I thought to be Mafia vote for the same person, I abstained. Before and after the election, I still have shaky faith in people running for mayor.
My main concern about the whole Ver and Redtooth thing is that it was so sudden. We had people who, I believe, to be more convincing Mafia members, but we lynched Empyrean over everybody else.
My voting was partially ignorant, but still acceptable in my opinion. I'd rather vote for no one that way I don't feel guilty if they're Red. That's my personal preference. I told you why my faith in Redtooth is small, I'd really hate to repeat myself. I made no accusation against neither Ver nor Redtooth, merely that I just think it was kind of weird.
Anything else? <:
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PM me as to why it's important, and i'll re-consider.
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The obvious question to me is "why did Ver do that?" On day one no less.
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yeah, i didn't understand it either. My instinct was that he was mafia and fishing for information. I'm not so sure, and i'm the one who got the PM, so that should tell you how confusing it was to get that so early.
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Well, no apparently reedtooth knew too. Why so trusting?
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Pretty sure Chezinu and L are in on their PM circle too
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LOL - this is getting juicer. I hope it isn't a red circle, or the game is over, the "other" Mafia won.
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you sure? with L and Redtooth in office? Bodyguards?
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