EPTLet's hope I don't die tonight
P.S. I hope you do die tonight, because you are most likely red, and if you are not, you are really making bad analysis if you think that I am a suspect so you are hurting the town.
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
P.S. I hope you do die tonight, because you are most likely red, and if you are not, you are really making bad analysis if you think that I am a suspect so you are hurting the town. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
You've missed on, or just flat out got lost in a few discussions. Some of those were pretty simple ideas that you got mixed up on and since I don't think you're an idiot I'm not buying it. Ok I'm out of here now. Foolishness put this one in your NOBODY CARES files ^_^ | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:29 Ace wrote: Don't have much time, but Townies listen to Scamp and LucaWoj. Under NO circumstances should anyone reveal they are a medic. Those are our trump cards because whichever side is "winning" the shooutout can't be allowed to run wild. Bill Murray you're actually one of my top 3 suspects now. No purely because of the spam, but because you've been wrong multiple times. Not even Amber[light] or Vivi57 have missed this many times in a single game. Feels as though you're trying to pull off the clueless role. Redtooth Chezinu isn't a confirmed DT. Don't get why you are protecting him unless you feel he's the only credible pro-town player at the moment? Also I forgot if it was you that made the "DTs can safely claim" post, and since I'm about to leave I can't check. But if anyone checks this information out and see that you made the argument, or supported it you're getting lynched tomorrow. That would show a huge contradiction in what you said and then your decision to protect Chezinu. Of course I hope that's not the case ^_^ I'll be playing for real from now on. Let's hope I don't die tonight ^_^ I was one of the ones who thinks that DT's should roleclaim. Medics are a different story. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote: without detectives all we have are behavioral analysis and voting patterns, right? i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played Ugh, because the mafia want to kill other mafia, not the town. As long as the DT can be swayed by one family they will have an edge over the other one. And because the town wants to find and kill all mafia, they 1) use medics to protect DT and 2) carefully watch who else is feeding DT information. | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
Althought... personally DT should have some tidbit of vital information before claiming. Also, this is kind of important, do we know how many DT's we have in total, as this makes it much easier? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:50 d3_crescentia wrote: Ugh, because the mafia want to kill other mafia, not the town. As long as the DT can be swayed by one family they will have an edge over the other one. And because the town wants to find and kill all mafia, they 1) use medics to protect DT and 2) carefully watch who else is feeding DT information. THEY? you speak like you're not a townie. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:51 Faronel wrote: No... detectives claiming is safe. If they claim, then they can be covered by medics. While if they don't claim, they can get hit, and we will never know what the DT knew. Althought... personally DT should have some tidbit of vital information before claiming. Also, this is kind of important, do we know how many DT's we have in total, as this makes it much easier? No, we don't. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote: without detectives all we have are behavioral analysis and voting patterns, right? i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played THe last game we played was totally different... | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:52 Bill Murray wrote: THEY? you speak like you're not a townie. Eh, we have to stop doing this. By calling someone out on this. You do absolutely nothing but warn possible scum about their scumtells. Thus they will be more careful when posting. However if we have these slip ups and good suspicion backed up by like clues/behavioral analysis then we have a better case for a lynching. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:52 Bill Murray wrote: THEY? you speak like you're not a townie. I hope I die just so I can be another proof of how wrong you are. =] | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote: without detectives all we have are behavioral analysis and voting patterns, right? i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played Ok, I have a bit of unexpected downtime I can get online for. My thoughts: Detectives get killed instantly when it's town vs ONE mafia. When there are two mafias, DT's are at least as useful to the mafia as they are to the town, if they can convince a DT to tell them who is in the other mafia family. Therefore, DT's claiming, while it may not be the smartest thing to do, depending on the situation, is by no means suicidal to the DT. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
in the day 1 clue analysis it mentions the moon 4 times and moonlight once, so a total of FIVE TIMES! how is that not clue analysis on him? and in terms of behavioral analysis, he has defended redtooth and ace BOTH. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:58 Bill Murray wrote: his signature is "once, not long ago, there was a moon here" in the day 1 clue analysis it mentions the moon 4 times and moonlight once, so a total of FIVE TIMES! how is that not clue analysis on him? and in terms of behavioral analysis, he has defended redtooth and ace BOTH. That kinda goes on the assumption that Ace and redtooth are red... | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Hi there, from your posts it's pretty clear to me that you are a blue role. Most likely a DT or medic. You should probably quit hinting at it so much. You don't need to necessarily trust me yet and tell me what you really are. My innocence will become apparent with time and once it is clear I'll be waiting for you to contact me. But I do want your trust and sooner than later; thus I'll be the one to offer the first gesture. I'm a Mad Hatter. This is from a PM Ver sent me. In case I die, I wanted to pass this on. He might not be lying, but this and his supporting of redtooth made me believe he might be red. | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:29 Ace wrote: yeah that was me. it was a question more than a statement. i threw the possibility out there but i don't really believe in it yet. i was also considering it under a situation where DT is in real danger of dying tonight (say for instance... you).Don't have much time, but Townies listen to Scamp and LucaWoj. Under NO circumstances should anyone reveal they are a medic. Those are our trump cards because whichever side is "winning" the shooutout can't be allowed to run wild. Bill Murray you're actually one of my top 3 suspects now. No purely because of the spam, but because you've been wrong multiple times. Not even Amber[light] or Vivi57 have missed this many times in a single game. Feels as though you're trying to pull off the clueless role. Redtooth Chezinu isn't a confirmed DT. Don't get why you are protecting him unless you feel he's the only credible pro-town player at the moment? Also I forgot if it was you that made the "DTs can safely claim" post, and since I'm about to leave I can't check. But if anyone checks this information out and see that you made the argument, or supported it you're getting lynched tomorrow. That would show a huge contradiction in what you said and then your decision to protect Chezinu. Of course I hope that's not the case ^_^ I'll be playing for real from now on. Let's hope I don't die tonight ^_^ i'm not sure how i feel about DTs public roleclaiming yet. don't really have an adamant stance. logically it makes sense that DTs can roleclaim and mafia wouldn't take them out but it could backfire sosososo quickly. for now i'm protecting Chezinu (who for now i believe is real DT) so nothing goes wrong and because i don't see anybody else that is a potential mafia target and isn't suspicious. for me the paradox in this game is that if they are worth protecting you probably shouldn't protect them. if mafia want to kill someone, that someone is probably mafia so i shouldn't protect. if a person is a known townie or even blue, i should protect them but mafia probably won't hit them. that's why the DT roleclaiming thing is so confusing - do the mafia want to kill blues or not. also, now that i'm in office a shootout is going to be much much harder for mafias because medics basically have to be dead for a mafia family to be wiped out and i sorta can't die  . unless you guys lynch me of course... | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On February 17 2010 08:59 meeple wrote: That kinda goes on the assumption that Ace and redtooth are red... not really, i'm assuming ONE of them is red. | ||
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Bill Murray
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