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789
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Bill Murray
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
The mafia will kill him if any of his list is true, but if his list is bullshit they'll keep him alive because they want us to suspect innocent townies. So let's keep that in mind. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On January 21 2010 07:07 Nikoner wrote: But what if you got elected mayor? Think of the possibilites. With regards to the "no lynch issue", since it's mostly agreed that our most stable suspicions are a bit of a mist in the wind at the moment, we should start lynching off the inactive/silent members first, as mafia members can easily sneak in their ranks to hide their identity for, basically, free. There shouldn't be a no-lynch day imo. Well it makes no sense to lynch an inactive player because they won't do anything. A silent player is not a good choice either, because they already stand out - some one who doesn't contribute in a game like this is obviously up to something, and therefore the clues will point us in their direction later anyway. If, however, they are silent because they are lazy or don't like to discuss anything, then sure that's cool too because they're not going to negatively impact us anyway. The point is it's better to take a gamble on some one suspicious on the first day because we'll know where we stand. Also, do the mafia know who each other are? I thought roles were not disclosed to others. Additionally, are we allowed to discuss things via PM? I didn't read anything in the rules about that but I could be wrong. I'm just wondering because if a detective role checks some one, who are they going to tell? They'll have a fat target on their back if they go HEY GUYS THIS DUDE IS A MAFIA GUY. He will be put in the spotlight whether he is a real detective or not. Not sure who I'm going to vote for yet, personally I don't really care as long as they're not a mafia guy. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
the mafia are aware of eachother. look at the example pm in the op. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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Jugan
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I voted for meeple, I think he'll do fine. He seems pretty level-headed and analytical and I don't have any reason to believe he is mafia. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
while we have no reason to suspect meeple, you can say that for anyone. The clues are not definitive, they could be tricky, complex, misleading. Often times we get clues wrong the first time... When we come back to them later, we go "ahhhh... THAT was why X happened and we found Y there." etc. etc. I don't think we should worry about electing a mafia member. If they're a bad sheriff/mayor, we can interpret their actions to figure out who's in the mafia. If they're a good sheriff/mayor, then we win. For a player like myself, it's hard. I've read every post on here, and I'm still not sure of what the best course of action is for myself. This is also partly because I'm not ready to jump the gun and accuse some one, nor am I ready to over analyze something and attempt to draw a conclusion from it until there are more facts/clues to go along with it. Right now, I can trust no one. I can only hope I'm not the miller :/ | ||
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t_co
United States702 Posts
On January 21 2010 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Well I'm running and since I'm biased I'll say myself. I voted for meeple, I think he'll do fine. He seems pretty level-headed and analytical and I don't have any reason to believe he is mafia. This, coming from the same person who said meeple (platform isn't really anything at all) seems kind of odd. I find this sudden tightness between meeple and DH kind of suspicious. But the main topic here should be that we should lynch the mayor regardless of whether we think he is mafia or not. The mayor role is actually quite overpowered compared to the sheriff, but the power only helps if the mayor is mafia. Consider that the extra three votes of the mayor don't really start kicking in until later in the game, when vote total gets smaller and smaller. By then, most of the bodyguards may be dead. If the mayor is town, then the mafia can kill him. If the mayor is mafia, the mafia get an additional 2 votes to use when there aren't that many actives left. In this case, the mayor is a pretty useless role for the town to keep and should be lynched ASAP. It would also allow the meeple DH duo to be verified, as if one of the two shows up clean, the other ought to be clean as well. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
If I did give my list it wouldn't mean anything anyway. If I'm wrong the mafia could off me to throw suspicion on others. If I'm right and I live it will throw suspicion off them. But at the same time right or wrong it could mean nothing but reverse psychology. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On January 21 2010 07:10 789 wrote: The inactive people could end up being mod killed anyway. Very low activity and inactive are pretty much one in the same. You can't just allow low activity otherwise it will enable mafia to just keep their mouths shut. Forcing everyone to be active allows far more chances for slipups. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 21 2010 08:10 Jayme wrote: Very low activity and inactive are pretty much one in the same. You can't just allow low activity otherwise it will enable mafia to just keep their mouths shut. Forcing everyone to be active allows far more chances for slipups. Though then, what would be considered "active." Let's not forget real life--people may have commitments such as long day/night jobs or the likes. Though I do agree that there could be more slipups. Man I suddenly just thought about Nixon's "silent majority." I wonder if the "inactive" townies will actually vote? | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 21 2010 08:07 789 wrote: Well I got some time to kill before my friends come over ... so more posting! The fact that I've got a theory and whether I get killed or not won't really tell much. The mafia has no idea who I suspect. I could be right and have all 4 of them correct, or all 4 of them wrong, or some sort of mix. I won't give my list until I see some sort of other evidence from at least 1 of the 4. So if I do get killed (which I hope I don't ... dieing day 1 of my first game would suck) it just means the mafia might be paranoid. It wouldn't give anyone any clue as to who it is regardless if my list is right or wrong. If I did give my list it wouldn't mean anything anyway. If I'm wrong the mafia could off me to throw suspicion on others. If I'm right and I live it will throw suspicion off them. But at the same time right or wrong it could mean nothing but reverse psychology. Let's hope you don't get roflpwned then. Because the mafia right now has nothing to lose from killing you since you have not revealed anything, though the "threat" of you doing so could mean death as well. Darn. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 21 2010 08:06 t_co wrote: This, coming from the same person who said seems kind of odd. I find this sudden tightness between meeple and DH kind of suspicious. But the main topic here should be that we should lynch the mayor regardless of whether we think he is mafia or not. The mayor role is actually quite overpowered compared to the sheriff, but the power only helps if the mayor is mafia. Consider that the extra three votes of the mayor don't really start kicking in until later in the game, when vote total gets smaller and smaller. By then, most of the bodyguards may be dead. If the mayor is town, then the mafia can kill him. If the mayor is mafia, the mafia get an additional 2 votes to use when there aren't that many actives left. In this case, the mayor is a pretty useless role for the town to keep and should be lynched ASAP. It would also allow the meeple DH duo to be verified, as if one of the two shows up clean, the other ought to be clean as well. Tightness? I just voted for him. He didn't really have a specific reason that he gave as to why people should vote for him, that doesn't mean I don't think he fits the position. He's active, has been mostly objective, and I don't have any reason to suspect him as mafia. If the town is going to lynch the mayor right away then no one will want to run lol | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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789
United States959 Posts
At this point I'm actually expecting to get hit on night 1. The mafia does have nothing to lose from killing me, and they will probably see it that way. Attention Mafia Members: I'm most likely wrong, please spare me :D | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On January 21 2010 07:37 Jugan wrote: Also, do the mafia know who each other are? I thought roles were not disclosed to others. Additionally, are we allowed to discuss things via PM? Yes, the mafia know who each other are. If you look at the example PMs, you will notice that the mafia are given a list of fellow mafia members with their role PM. PM/IM/IRC are definitely allowed. | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
On January 21 2010 08:06 t_co wrote: This, coming from the same person who said seems kind of odd. I find this sudden tightness between meeple and DH kind of suspicious. But the main topic here should be that we should lynch the mayor regardless of whether we think he is mafia or not. The mayor role is actually quite overpowered compared to the sheriff, but the power only helps if the mayor is mafia. Consider that the extra three votes of the mayor don't really start kicking in until later in the game, when vote total gets smaller and smaller. By then, most of the bodyguards may be dead. If the mayor is town, then the mafia can kill him. If the mayor is mafia, the mafia get an additional 2 votes to use when there aren't that many actives left. In this case, the mayor is a pretty useless role for the town to keep and should be lynched ASAP. It would also allow the meeple DH duo to be verified, as if one of the two shows up clean, the other ought to be clean as well. This is a very good point. | ||
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