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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 00:09 GMT
#341
I think the connection between me and meeple is pretty out there. How about the connection between anyone who voted for someone? Pointing out that he didn't give a platform is not really relevant

As far as lynching the mayor or not, that's really going to scare anyone who is running. I also find it strange that you are proposing to immediately lynch the mayor when you are running for elected positions yourself.
RIP Aaliyah
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 00:10 GMT
#342
It has been said before but defenitely the elected role that the mafia will be aiming for is gonna be mayor, no role check and +2 vote can make quite a big difference while the sheriff has a subpar ability (but still no rolecheck is good).

I don't like either the idea of lynching the mayor right away, first of all, like most people said then no one would run, but most important, it removes the ability from the town to get additionnal information, which is pretty much the most important think to help us choose who to lynch each day. The voting power grows strong with late game, so early it shouldn't be a problem. By the case we lynch him in the middle of the game, if he hasn't proven by his actions that he is legit (or all bodyguards dead and he' still alive, or w/e reason we choose to lynch him), might be better just because of that mass of information you can get from it afterwards.

But really, mayor can pretty much be a double edged sword for each camp, wheter he's mafia or town, it all depend on how he's playing.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 00:16 GMT
#343
On January 21 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As far as lynching the mayor or not, that's really going to scare anyone who is running. I also find it strange that you are proposing to immediately lynch the mayor when you are running for elected positions yourself.

Well I guess he's hoping to get sheriff or none of them, lol.

That makes me think, for anyone saying to lynch the mayor first day, why not sheriff then? He pretty much get only that rolecheck immunity since his incarceration ability isn't that great, and rolecheck immunity is something that benefit only the mafia.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 00:17 GMT
#344
Why don't we not lynch the elected officials with powers that benefit the town
RIP Aaliyah
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 00:19 GMT
#345
I'd like to reaffirm the fact that I'm running for election too under the platform of "save me from the impending hit coming my way." If you don't vote for me, it's basically murder ... wink.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 21 2010 00:20 GMT
#346
Agreeing with DH.
Also as I've said before, that makes the game not fun.
Yeah I mean winning is really really awesome and all. I play to win like 99.9% of the time.
But then if we kill both the elected people it's... just not fun.

Also yay we are more active than BC's game. Go us.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 21 2010 00:25 GMT
#347
On January 21 2010 09:20 flamewheel91 wrote:
Agreeing with DH.
Also as I've said before, that makes the game not fun.
Yeah I mean winning is really really awesome and all. I play to win like 99.9% of the time.
But then if we kill both the elected people it's... just not fun.

Also yay we are more active than BC's game. Go us.

Not for longg..... not for long.... we will make a comeback of viewcounts, messages, and also the process of game soon enough.... beware.....
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 21 2010 00:33 GMT
#348
On January 21 2010 09:25 QuickStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 09:20 flamewheel91 wrote:
Agreeing with DH.
Also as I've said before, that makes the game not fun.
Yeah I mean winning is really really awesome and all. I play to win like 99.9% of the time.
But then if we kill both the elected people it's... just not fun.

Also yay we are more active than BC's game. Go us.

Not for longg..... not for long.... we will make a comeback of viewcounts, messages, and also the process of game soon enough.... beware.....


Our town is superior!!!1!!!1!!!
Hmmm but I am enjoying simultaneously reading these old mafia posts.
This is totally better than the card game version.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 21 2010 00:44 GMT
#349
On January 21 2010 08:26 789 wrote:At this point I'm actually expecting to get hit on night 1. The mafia does have nothing to lose from killing me, and they will probably see it that way. Attention Mafia Members: I'm most likely wrong, please spare me :D


Post the list then. We'll have a decent idea of whether you're a townie by day 2 in that case.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 21 2010 00:49 GMT
#350
On January 21 2010 09:19 789 wrote:
I'd like to reaffirm the fact that I'm running for election too under the platform of "save me from the impending hit coming my way." If you don't vote for me, it's basically murder ... wink.


I'm going to vote for the person that promises to lynch 789 right away.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 00:54 GMT
#351
I really think you should discuss who you think is mafia 789. Since we're all speculating right now as to who the mayor should lynch, by withdrawing that information, you're acting kinda weird.

The mafia will probably kill you anyway right? So what do you have to lose?
RIP Aaliyah
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 21 2010 01:23 GMT
#352
Yes everyone needs to put as much information out there as possible. Mayor's talking about their plans is a great start, altho lynching the mayor just sounds dumb lol

Having less information only helps the mafia. The biggest two allies of the mafia imo are quiet ppl and inactive ppl.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 01:41:13
January 21 2010 01:40 GMT
#353
Just throwing this out here, this is the current voting history of active players

Abenson - Voted for meeple
Ghote- Voted for meeple
StimiLant - Voted for t_co
Bill Murray - Voted for citi.zen, changed to meeple
magicbullet - Voted for t_co
789 - Voted for t_co, changed to DoctorHelvetica
flamewheel91 - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
CynanMachae - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
Keit - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
Faronel - Voted for t_co
DoctorHelvetica - Voted for meeple
citi.zen - Voted for me, changed to meeple
tredmasta - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
derfboy - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
[NyC]Hobbes - Voted for meeple
Ser Aspi - Voted for DoctorHelvetica
meeple - Voted for DoctorHelvetica

17/34 voted, 17 left to go.
RIP Aaliyah
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 21 2010 01:41 GMT
#354
You guys are lucky.... we only got 6 votes with 1 abstain vote.... =/
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 01:41 GMT
#355
i forgot to add meeple, that's why i edited

it's a list so you can verify it's authenticity by checking the voting thread.
RIP Aaliyah
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 01:45 GMT
#356
Let me throw this out there: we all agree an elected position benefits the mob, if they can get it. Also, the mob is organized and know each other, so they are likely to pre-determine who will run from their camp.

So my conjecture is this: one and only one of the candidates is a mobster.

So far the candidates are: myself, DoctorH, meeple, 789 and t_co. I think one of us, and only one, is a mobster.

PS: I also realize that I am an idiot for continuing to offer my best guesses to the public: if these guesses are right, the mob will kill me to get rid of a troublesome player. Who else would they go for? If I am wrong, I will move to the top of the list for getting lynched by the town, since I argued my points clearly and strongly and got innocent people killed (say... [NyC]Hobbes gets lynched but turns out to be innocent this round - who would you all blame?!?).
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 01:51 GMT
#357
Another logical note: t_co rolled out his campaign with his fancy banner and big promises. Then he saw he was losing the vote, so he started to argue we kill the elected officials, whoever they are. Who honestly thinks he would have made the same argument if he had the lead in the voting? This cannot be blamed on something he only realized AFTER he submitted his candidacy, he himself bragged about "prior experience" with mafia games, so if "killing officials regardless" is a dominant strategy, he would likely have been aware of it from previous games, and would not have entered his name in the election!

t_co moved to the top of my suspect list.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 01:52 GMT
#358
789 has been acting rather oddly.

he claims to have a theory about who FOUR of the mobsters are. There are only clues toward two, yet he has a theory for 4 out of the 7 mobsters. He won't post the list to help us speculate and now he is provoking the mafia to kill him. After asking the mafia to kill him he announced candidacy to avoid getting killed?

I don't even understand the logic from either the townie or mafia side.

If he releases the information and he gets killed, part of the town will assume his information was good and that's why he was silenced and the other part will assume the mafia is using reverse psychology. Either way, the mafia can create confusion. So if he isn't mafia and he releases that information, the mafia has no reason not to kill him.

If he is Mafia, I don't really see what he's trying to do. Cause panic?


I'm reluctant to paint anyone red right now, but perhaps t_co?

Firstly, he is trying to draw a connection between me and meeple that is pretty transparent. It seems to me (I could be wrong, I really would like to hear a bit more of t_co's reasoning here) that he is trying to cause mistrust?

Also, he put the most effort into his campaign for mayor/sheriff and now he is saying we should lynch the mayor no matter who it is, which seems awfully strange to me.

If he is mafia, this all makes sense. He can convince the town to get rid of the mayor who has three votes, which would really help the mafia out by reducing town voting power. Also the mafia could be trying to breed distrust toward who they see as active/dangerous townies.


Going off of clues, I'd say [NyC]Hobbes is the most likely, but even that is pretty iffy.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 01:53 GMT
#359
im not insinuating 789 might even be a mafia, i just really don't fucking understand what he is doing right now
RIP Aaliyah
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 01:55 GMT
#360
I can easily give you a 4 suspect list as well... t_co is at the head of it and Hobbes has not been exonerated in any way.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
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