I will update this post shortly with full info (or as it comes out) but given the huge news today that Nadal has withdrawn from the men's singles tournament because of knee issues I thought having a thread up for discussion would be good :O
Definitely gonna be between Djokovic and Federer to take the title. If Djokovic doesn't choke like he has in the semifinals in Wimbledon or the finals of Roland Garros, he'll take it. Otherwise Federer's definitely gonna ride his grass court prowess to the gold medal.
Third place? Now that's gonna be hard. Wimbledon was nothing but upsets every round, so the draws will be hectic. Murray could be a contender for it though considering how well he did during Wimbledon.
Also, Federer and Wawrinka are going to take the doubles championship, easy.
Aww the surface is going to be grass. I was hoping to see hard court for the olympics and then I realize it'll be held at wimbledon again (great month to be there I guess).
On July 20 2012 07:42 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Definitely gonna be between Djokovic and Federer to take the title. If Djokovic doesn't choke like he has in the semifinals in Wimbledon or the finals of Roland Garros, he'll take it. Otherwise Federer's definitely gonna ride his grass court prowess to the gold medal.
Third place? Now that's gonna be hard. Wimbledon was nothing but upsets every round, so the draws will be hectic. Murray could be a contender for it though considering how well he did during Wimbledon.
Also, Federer and Wawrinka are going to take the doubles championship, easy.
On July 20 2012 11:43 AirbladeOrange wrote: Besides Nadal, is there anyone notable who isn't playing?
Mardy Fish, Alexandr Dolgopolov, Marcel Granollers, Julien Benneteau, Florian Mayer and Kevin Anderson are the only other top-30-ish players that won't be there, either due to their country being over quota (max 4 players per country per draw), the player being ineligible (you need to make yourself available for Davis Cup to compete at the Olympics), injury or, in Fish's case, focussing on the US Open.
On July 20 2012 16:44 Pandemona wrote: I bet Murray and Federrer go out early xD
It could happen.
No one knows what mental state Murray will be in after the crushing disappointment of the Wimbledon final, he's certainly been prone to serious slumps after the previous times he got crushed in a slam final.
Fed I think cares quite a bit about adding the Olympic singles gold to his resumé so will probably be focused on it, but I'd not be surprised if there's a bit of a hangover after the highs of winning Wimbledon and finally taking away Sampras record of weeks at number one (he was stuck 2 weeks short of passing him since he lost the #1 ranking in the first half of 2010)
On July 20 2012 07:42 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Definitely gonna be between Djokovic and Federer to take the title. If Djokovic doesn't choke like he has in the semifinals in Wimbledon or the finals of Roland Garros, he'll take it. Otherwise Federer's definitely gonna ride his grass court prowess to the gold medal.
Third place? Now that's gonna be hard. Wimbledon was nothing but upsets every round, so the draws will be hectic. Murray could be a contender for it though considering how well he did during Wimbledon.
Also, Federer and Wawrinka are going to take the doubles championship, easy.
On July 20 2012 07:42 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Definitely gonna be between Djokovic and Federer to take the title. If Djokovic doesn't choke like he has in the semifinals in Wimbledon or the finals of Roland Garros, he'll take it. Otherwise Federer's definitely gonna ride his grass court prowess to the gold medal.
Third place? Now that's gonna be hard. Wimbledon was nothing but upsets every round, so the draws will be hectic. Murray could be a contender for it though considering how well he did during Wimbledon.
Also, Federer and Wawrinka are going to take the doubles championship, easy.
Are the bryan brothers not playing?
Switzerland would beat USA in doubles hands down.
Really? I'd still give the Bryan brothers the edge.
Federer+Wawrinka isn't exactly a regular doubles team. Last time they met the Bryans they lost in four sets..... and before that they lost to a team of Guccione and Hewitt against Australia -_-
But wow, Nadal withdrew?! O_O Definitely opens it up a bit. Really rooting for Roger~!! Hope he can get that golden slam.
Also, Djokovic did not choke until the final set a bit, but there was also signature overwhelming Federer pressure at that point. I'm the first to admit I'm a huge Federer fan, but if you watched match, they both played incredibly. Djokovic himself gave Fed the credit for beating him. Obviously when you lose you rarely feel that you played 100%, especially if you're world no. 1, but even with that kind of mentality, he said that Roger was just better than him that day. Did you see the stats? Federer was godmode. 8 UEs and over triple that in winners.
I think doubles players are pretty overrated nowadays, the playing field just isn't that great.
Give pretty much any combination of top 30 players a bit of practice for an event rather than hopping off the bus for a DC tie and deciding who's going to play with no warm up together and they'll go toe to toe with most dedicated doubles pairings.
The last 2 olympics were won by singles pairings, Fed and Wawrinka beat both the Bryan brothers and Paes/Bhupati when they did it in 08 and those are some of the most decorated players of the last decade in doubles. Meanwhile Massu and Gonzalez won in 04 and neither even play a type of tennis that's particularly good for doubles (again there were some good doubles specialists in the draw).
I'd be pretty surprised if the doubles doesn't get won by a traditional singles pairing again this year.
I guess so. I generally have no confidence in my predictions or analyses anyway so I'm just looking forward to watching some good tennis ^^
It would definitely be so, so sweet if Federer could get the gold. Also it would secure his No. 1 ranking for the time being. If Djokovic gets farther and they both go deep, he could quite easily pass Roger for now because he's only behind 75 points anyway lol. Roger should probably(?) have a pretty easy semi opponent unless they decide to pair it 1-4 2-5 or something along those lines. I know that they have done both 1-3/2-4 and 1-4/2-3. Well I mean 5 would essentially be seeded fourth; I was using the rankings whoops. So pairing 1-3/2-4 could be significantly worse for Federer because he matches up against Ferrer a ton better than he does Murray (and Murray is generally more dangerous), 3 being Murray and 4 being Ferrer.
And there's always the chance that a player will go berserk and get in the zone of course. >< I agree with your comments regarding Murray and Federer. We'll see what happens :o
and with the ol' knee again no less, at least he could try being original
i think federer is the clear favorite, but murray looked pretty great during the finals. djokovic also seems to get very inspired when playing for his country, leading serbia to davis cup couple of years ago (then subsequently dominating the next tennis year
does anyone know if they are using center court? I thought I heard years ago that playing on center court was reserved for The Championships Wimbledon, but if anything would be an exception to that it would be the Olympics
On July 20 2012 07:27 Masamune wrote: With Nadal out, I really hope if Federer can win one more title in his career that it will be the Olympic gold medal for the men`s singles.
On July 21 2012 10:53 Imbajoe wrote: does anyone know if they are using center court? I thought I heard years ago that playing on center court was reserved for The Championships Wimbledon, but if anything would be an exception to that it would be the Olympics
According to the wimbledon site centre court will be in use during the Olympics.
Damn. Pretty huge news that Rafa won't be playing. Really opens things up for Federer to take his career golden slam huh?
IMO, if Murray gets to the finals he will be really really dangerous. He would have to go through either Federer or Djokovic to get there. Going through Federer is possible because Federer has a lot of off days, but going through Djokovic (who is rock-solid even in losing, like in the wimby semis...though that's just imho again) would be even more incredible. We'll see what happens~~
I hope Federer takes this. And he have a good chance now that Nadal is out, but Olympic Tennis is played in 3 sets until finals which makes upsets more likely to occur. Like in 2008 when James Blake took out Federer in the Quarterfinals.
I think Djokovic is the favorite to win this time around because of his consistency. I think he is far less likely to be upset in a 3 setter compared to the likes of Federer and Murray, who both can have off days (Federer especially can easily lose 2 sets when he is off, but with 5 sets he usually take it anyways). I also think Murray will do good in this tournement, despite his loss in Wimbledon. It is Olympics in London, and him winning here would be as big as him winning Wimbledon for the British.
With Rafa out, Federer will show the confidence he just did in his win at Wimbledon (When Rafa went out in 2nd round to Rosol) and take the Olympic gold medal and prove he deserves the #1 he just reclaimed after so long.
On July 23 2012 11:43 MurDeRsc2 wrote: With Rafa out, Federer will show the confidence he just did in his win at Wimbledon (When Rafa went out in 2nd round to Rosol) and take the Olympic gold medal and prove he deserves the #1 he just reclaimed after so long.
Well, I can hope.
Getting the #1 title by going through No1e and Murray, coming back from a five-setter and an injured back to win the Wimbledon crown; riding a late streak last year after a heart-breaking loss in USO semis that included Paris and an undefeated WTF tournament; going on a 17-match win streak, etc etc...shows that he deserves the ranking imho. Especially with the top 4 of tennis at the moment, getting #1 is not easy by any means. Federer was always up there, just never managed to break through for that 17th title.
The last few times fed has played djokovic he's gotten the upper hand in the early sets, so in a bo3 situation I might even go as far as to favor fed in that matchup. Would be amazing if fed could win this one too, he deserves a gold medal on top of his major wins.
On July 26 2012 11:13 jeeeeohn wrote: I'm not a huge follower of tennis but I started watching the US and French Open, and I have to say I'm very excited for Olympic tennis.
Honestly, this ought to be the best Olympics so far for Tennis. The most iconic venue for the sport, virtually every (healthy) pros worth their salt will be there and Federer has a golden oportunity to scement his legacy by winning the only major title he lacks. Exciting stuff!
On July 20 2012 18:30 Asha` wrote: I think doubles players are pretty overrated nowadays, the playing field just isn't that great.
Give pretty much any combination of top 30 players a bit of practice for an event rather than hopping off the bus for a DC tie and deciding who's going to play with no warm up together and they'll go toe to toe with most dedicated doubles pairings.
The last 2 olympics were won by singles pairings, Fed and Wawrinka beat both the Bryan brothers and Paes/Bhupati when they did it in 08 and those are some of the most decorated players of the last decade in doubles. Meanwhile Massu and Gonzalez won in 04 and neither even play a type of tennis that's particularly good for doubles (again there were some good doubles specialists in the draw).
I'd be pretty surprised if the doubles doesn't get won by a traditional singles pairing again this year.
I wouldn't say any top 30 players. They have to have decent volley skills. For example, Djokovic is a bad doubles player, has subpar volleys and very little doubles game sense. His consistent strokes are not great weapons for doubles.
Federer even got in a bit of trouble, dropping match points in 2nd set at 5-3 then losing the set 7-5. He still won the match, but he looked a bit vulnerable there. Still rooting for him to complete the Golden Grand Slam though. :D
On July 29 2012 01:42 ShoKakuUtena wrote: Federer even got in a bit of trouble, dropping match points in 2nd set at 5-3 then losing the set 7-5. He still won the match, but he looked a bit vulnerable there. Still rooting for him to complete the Golden Grand Slam though. :D
Yeah, gogo! >_<
That was a pretty scary moment. I actually didn't stay up to watch the match for once since I'm supposed to be recovering, but I'm just glad Federer made it through. The Olympics have never been a particularly great event for him and I'm really hoping he can pull through this time.
Why can't I watch Murray play tennis without tearing up? I'm not British OR Scottish! T_T
Anyway, good matches. I'm just glad Serena Williams is still playing, or else America would be more pathetic than they seem to be. Seriously, who's the best US player? Has anyone been phenomenal in mens singles since Arthur Ashe? I'm not too well versed on the subject but then again we're getting knocked out left and right.
On July 29 2012 22:33 Tunkeg wrote: Was not able to see the Federer match yesterday. Was it Federer having an off-day or Falla having a superday?
Falla is one of those guys who is always really scary. I've seen him in a lot of tournaments where he takes top 10 players to 5 sets and wins, then loses to a nobody in the next round. If I were to choose anyone as a streaky player, it would be him.
3-0 Federer now. Good thing Roger is up to a good start, Benneteau showed at Wimbledon that he is capable to beat Federer if he is off to a good start.
On July 30 2012 22:29 Tunkeg wrote: 3-0 Federer now. Good thing Roger is up to a good start, Benneteau showed at Wimbledon that he is capable to beat Federer if he is off to a good start.
WHAT?! Federer is playing right now?!
CURSE YOU CHINESE TV FOR NOT SHOWING THIS T___T
And crap, I'm hitting the time cap on my alternate connection and my 3G connection has already passed the data cap...nooo....
Federer breaks and leads 3-1 after Benneteau make a double fault. Benneteau may have some injury, he is coming alot to the net and is serving and volleying alot. Federer have played some lovely winners and is in total control
On July 30 2012 23:09 Aerisky wrote: I will just have to assume Federer has this at this point then, thanks for posting about the scoreline and everything ^^
Allez Roger~
Sorry, wasn't much of a LR this, but I tried posting about the breaks and stuff.
Federer breaks and wins 6-2 btw
24 winners to 7 UE's for Federer and 4/8 breakpoints converted. Pretty decent Even though Benneteau had that injury.
On July 30 2012 23:09 Aerisky wrote: I will just have to assume Federer has this at this point then, thanks for posting about the scoreline and everything ^^
Allez Roger~
Sorry, wasn't much of a LR this, but I tried posting about the breaks and stuff.
Federer breaks and wins 6-2 btw
24 winners to 7 UE's for Federer and 4/8 breakpoints converted. Pretty decent Even though Benneteau had that injury.
Ah, not bad at all! :D Thanks. Was just good to know the scoreline and generally what was happening.
Hope Benneteau recovers, he definitely gave Roger a run for his money at wimby and he's a good player overall.
On August 01 2012 03:14 how2TL wrote: Why three sets in the Olympics? Makes it feel like a Masters tournament.
5 setters would probably take too much time
Yeah, and in a way it IS a masters tournament lol. Something like 850 points for the winner anyway. I'm not sure, but the finals may be best of 5, which might be nice
On August 01 2012 03:14 how2TL wrote: Why three sets in the Olympics? Makes it feel like a Masters tournament.
5 setters would probably take too much time
Yeah, and in a way it IS a masters tournament lol. Something like 850 points for the winner anyway. I'm not sure, but the finals may be best of 5, which might be nice
750, and yep, it is! Just like pre 08 masters w/o the third set tiebreak.
According to the london 2012 site, the Men's singles final will be best of 5 sets, all other matches best of 3.
Should be a fantastic final, don't think i'll be able to watch any of the other games from here in NZ. The free to air broadcast is very limited and I sure can't afford cable!
What a rally! And a beautiful shot by Djokovic to end it! Right down the right line. Djokovic also abusing the drop shots and getting a 0-30 lead this game.
Aiya! Unforced error, and now 2 break points for Djokovic.
One saved by Hewitt, but Djokovic takes the second after Hewitt faults his first serve.
I know little of women's tennis and yeah, I don't care much for Azarenka either. The funniest sight (or sound, rather) is Azarenka versus Sharapova in a long rally. Many an audience can start giggling at the amount of grunting that goes on lol~
Gogo Roger! Won't be able to watch too many of his matches this time around...but regardless of time, I am absolutely going to watch the Olympic finals if he makes it there.
First set 6-4 to Rogere after having break point against. Ok first set, but against Isner you should never have breakpoints against. It is hard enough to break Isner once in a set, you shouldn't set yourself up to have to do it twice.
On August 03 2012 00:32 Tunkeg wrote: Federer breaks, yes!
WHAT?! IT'S GOING ON NOW?!
Wahhh *rushes to find a stream*. So many things going on, but I can't not watch Federer...I've stayed up all the way until now anyway haha.
Yup, but the way these two is going at it it will soon be over They play 3 sets faster than Nadal and Djokovic play one.
Thats really the "problem" with the olympics so much is going on that the tennismatches isn't allways covered. I missed Federers last match because of it.
Federer seemed to be playing worse there for a while, some more unforced error and Del Potro took his service game easy, and got to 0-30 in Federer serve. But Federer serves himself out of harms way to 40-30 and finish the game off with a lovely set up winner.
Del Potro breaks Federer and leads 5-3 now. And unlike normal it is not Federer who is playing alot of unforced error and serving bad that causes the break. Del Potro plays superaggressive tennis and is pressuring Federer.
And Del Potro takes set 1 6-3. Well deserved set, Del Potro is playing his A-game here. Hopefully Federer can kick it up a notch, he is playing good, but to many unforced errors.
And maybe his serving is abit off. Even though he is putting alot of first serve in, the speed isn't all that great and Del Potro is slamming them back and putting Federer on the defencive.
Federer 1-0 in the 2nd set now. Del Potro pressuring Federer hard in his service games now, Federer holds to 30, after only serving first serves up to 30-30, closes out the game with two second serves.
Federer putting on some pressure on his own on the Del Potro serve. A long long service game, with 2 break points and 5 deuces. And this in a game where Del Potro is almost only serving first serves. Federer looking better now.
And while I wrote this Federer took his own service game to love and it is now 2-1 to Federer in the second set.
On August 03 2012 21:13 Ota Solgryn wrote: IS Federer forgetting to mix it up?
Hmm, he is mixing it up enough I think, but his drop shots and slices haven't been sharp enough. Also Del Potro's bomb have been hard to do anything with. Espcially the returns when Federers first serve sometimes are down to 175 kmh right into the forehand of Del Potro.
Federer in all sorts of trouble in his service game. Down 0-30, make two huge serves and is back to 30-30, then a bad point 30-40, another huge serve and deuce. Then advantage Federer-deuce a number of times before Federer closes it out. This in a game where Federer serves 2 aces and alot of unreturned serves. It almost went Unreterned serve-unforce error- unreturned serve- unforced error- etc etc. Federer need to step up his game from the baseline now.
30-40 in the Del Potro serve now. Del Potro makes an easy unforced error to give Federer the break point.
Del Potro follows up with a huge serve it is deuce.
Federer gets a 203 kmh serve back in play, and seems like he get the upperhand for a while, but Del Potro pressures Federer back and Federer hits the ball into the net. Advantage Del Potro.
Del Potro serves a second serve, follows up with a volley and it is now 3-3 in the second set.
Federer makes three huge serves and is up 40-0. Looking to do his 1-2-3-4 over in a minute game, but misses an easy overhead to gift Del Potro the point 15-40.
Federer another great serve, and the ball end up in the net from Del Potro.
BBC commentators suggesting that the wind is becoming an issue here. Federer plays especially well indoors, while with the open roof here, Federer seems to be being affected more than Del Potro (note the missed overhead).
delpo playing dang well, surprisingly it's not Roger making the UEs that's losing him this match apparently. DelPo's serve is also really clicking, feels like the 2009 USO finals form JMDP hit towards the end, except he brought it right from the start apparently.
hahaha Tunkeg I hope so too~ gogo!
Hm that's odd though, I think it was McEnroe who said Federer that Federer is one of the greatest weather players he has ever seen. He plays well in both wind and rain, which is odd because his style takes a huge amount of timing and precision etc. Hope he'll be able to come back.
Really nice rally at 40-15 (Federer serving) where Del Potro comes up with an amazing block of what looked like an overhead winner. Disappointing end as Federer misses another easy one. D. P. wins the next point too and now it's gone from 40-love to deuce. Federer serving.
2nd serve ace gives Fed the advantage again, then follows with another for the game. Much more difficult than it looked like it would be after the first three points.
Oh thank goodness...Federer holds at last, leads 5-4 in the second. I can't really LR unfortunately or shout about the points because I can't tell what's going on -__- sigh.
I have no idea what happend but Federer is up 40-love now, misses the first serve, oh hey my connection is working! Just kidding it's not. He holds to something, up 6-5!
A potential tiebreak frightens me slightly, hope Federer can crank it up and take this set.
Huge return from Federer, Del Potro puts the ball long. 0-15
Huge serve, unreturned. 15-15
Serve to the body of Federer. Who can only send a lofty ball back. Del Potro fails to put Federer under pressuer though, and Federer ends up hitting a perfect drop shot. 15-30
Serve followed up by a winner from Del Potro. 30-30
Ace, down the line. 40-30.
Easy forehand into the net from Federer again. 6-6 Tiebreak
2nd serve Federer. Del Potro puts it into the net after a short rally. 1-0 Federer.
2nd serve Del Potro. Federer tries to run around, but get the ball into his body. Easy point from DEl Potro from there as Federer puts a forced error into the net.
A long rally, with Federer putting a ball on the line, and Del Potro putting the next ball into the net. Del Potro challanges with no success. 2-1 Federer now. Up a minibreak!!! Come on Rog!"!!!
A medium rally, Del Potro puts the ball out. 3-1 Federer.
Ace Federer. 4-1!!!
2nd serve Del Potro. Short rally, huge forehand by Del Potro forces Federer to put the ball into the net. 4-2
Changing sides now. Del Potro with another serve. Unreturned. 4-3 Federer.
2nd serve Federer. Into the body of Del Potro, for a easy volley, put it long and wide. 4-4.
2nd serve Federer. Medium long rally. Easy overhead put away for Federer after having Del Potro on the run. 5-4 Federer.
Del Potro serving. Great rally. With Federer changing it up and Del potro overplaying the ball. 6-4 Federer and set ball!! Come on ROOOOOG!
Another medium rally on the Del Potro serve. Ending with Feder putting it long (pressured). 6-5
CLOSES THE SET OUT WITH AN ACE. 7-6. 2nd set to Federer!!!!
Heavy serve, set up Del Potro for an easy put away. 15-0.
2nd serve. A long rally. With Federer being on the defensive all the through the point. But puts a counter shot deep, and Del Potro nets it. 15-15.
2nd Serve. A medium long rally. Federer on the defensive again. Del Potro with the approach. Federer comes up with a great passing, but Del Potro barely gets to it and wins the point. 30-15
Unreturned serve. 40-15.
Federer chips the return and comes to the net. Del Potro tries to lob. But Federer puts the overhead away. 30-40
2nd serve. Federer soon gets on the offensive. Mixing it up with slices. Ends up with Del Potro netting it. 40-40.
Unreturned serve. Advantage Del Potro. 204 kmh.
2nd serve. A weak sliced return puts Federer ont he defensive. And Del Potro pummels away, and it ends with him forcing Federer to put the ball wide. 2-1 Del Potro.
A medium rally have Federer coming to the net. He puts the volley away. 0-15.
Unreturned serve from Del Potro. 15-15
And another one. 15-30. Both 206 kmh.
Del Potro fires his follow up shotr from the serve long. Easy miss. 30-30.
Serve into the body of Federer. Del Potro on the offensive. Federer fires the ball long. 40-30.
Another strong serves from Del Potro. The following shot have Federer on the run. Ending with a lofty ball from Federer going long. Forced error. 3-2 Del Potro.
Why does Del Potro have to always make a resurgence at the worst fucking possible times for Federer?
6th consecutive history making US Open title.....Juan Martin Del Potro Olympic mens single gold.....Juan Martin Del Potro Chance to have a break at life..... Jaun Martin Del Potro
On August 03 2012 22:33 Masamune wrote: Why does Del Potro have to always make a resurgence at the worst fucking possible times for Federer?
6th consecutive history making US Open title.....Juan Martin Del Potro Olympic mens single gold.....Juan Martin Del Potro Chance to have a break at life..... Jaun Martin Del Potro
edit: sorry to Intothewow in advance
Federer has never had an opportunity to win men's singles gold, lost to Berdych and Blake early in 2004 and 2008
Also Federer actually had to come back from this one whereas the USO match started out with Federer just rolling, but then JMDP just hit him off the court. I don't get the break at life one though :o
Del Potro have Federer ont he run, and comes to the net. Federer puts the ball down into the feets of Del potro. And Del Potro barely gets the ball back for an easy overhead put away for Federer. 15-15
Federer with a great backhand winner down the line. 15-30.
Unreturned serve. 30-30.
Another great serve from Federer, who barely gets it over. Del Potro puts on heavy pressure on the next stroke, and Federer fails to get it back. 40-30
A medium long rally. Del Potro in charge. But it ends up with Del Potro netting it. Deuce.
2nd serve. Serve into the body of Federer have him early on the defensive. Federer turns it around though and get Del Potro on the run. But he makes a great forehand on the run crosscourt. Adv Del Potro.
Short point. Del Potro puts an easy forehand into the net. Back on deuce.
Serve into the body of Federer. Again Federer manages to break Del Potros pace with a slice. Del Potro puts the ball into the net. Adv Federer.
Deep return from Federer gets Federer in command of the point. He mixes it up alot, but slices on time to many, and Del Potro takes charge, and he ends the pint with a forehand winner. Deuce.
Unreturned serve. Adv Del Potro.
2nd serve. Short rally, and Federer puts the ball into the net. 4-3 Del potro.
2nd serve. Federer serves out of the court. And puts the 2nd ball to the other side for the winner, 30-0.
2nd serve. Unreturned. 40-0.
Federer serves out of the court, Del Potro puts the ball back long (not sure if it was out), but Federer rips the ball back cross court anyways. Either a winner by Fed, or a UE by Del Potro.
I gave up on watching entirely, just periodically checking the slide the stream is on and refreshing this thread to check on what happened to get the score there ._.
Del Potro get Federer on the run and finnish with an easy overhead. 15-0
2nd serve. Short rally. Del Potro goes for the winner down the line. 30-0.
2nd serve. Good return from Federer put Del potro somewhat on his heals. Another exchange and DEl potro fires it long for UE. 15-30.
Another 2nd serve. Slice return. No one in command of the point when Federer puts and unforced error into the net. 15-40.
2nd serve again. Federer must be mad for not having taken advantage of these opportunities. A short rally have Del Potro putting a ball long, unforced. 30-40
Federer with a great return that put him in command of the point. He pressures del Potro, who makes a somewhat easy miss. 40-40
2nd serve. To Federers backhand. He rips it back, and a pressured Del Potro puts it well long. Adv Federer. GOGOGO!
A bomb of a serve. Pulls Federerout of the court. Puts the next ball in the other side of the court. Federer fulls tretch, Del Potro with the easy overhead. Deuce.
Del Potro serves, Federer return, Del Potro hits the inside out forhand winner. 15-0.
Serve out of the court. The follow up down the line, clean winner. 30-0.
2 let serves to start the point off. 3rd is netted. 2nd Serve. Short rally, Federer ends it with an easy backhand into the net. 40-0.
Serve out of the court. Federer with a deep return. Del Potro misses wide. 15-40
Serve into the body of Del Potro. Federer on the run throughout the entire point, making increadible returns. But in the end the power of Del Potro wears him down and he cant get the ball back. 6-5 Del Potro.
On August 03 2012 23:05 figq wrote: Oh, just realized they gonna keep playing games until 2 difference, no tiebreak. Wow, with the strength of their serves... this may take a while.
Which could be bad for Roger, because he's older and tiredness will come into play at some point.
I think Del Potro is more tired now. He is a big big man.
2nd serve. Federer get the command of the point early, and forces Del Potro to the net. But he ends up putting a rather easy cross court passing wide. 30-0.
A bomb down the center. Unreturned. 40-0.
Federer with a great return, so deep that Del Potro is rearing, putting the ball into the net. 40-15
Yeah, and the fact that Federer now and again have completely hopeless service games. Where he can't find his first serve. But still I prefer this to a tie break. GOOOOO ROGER!
2nd serve. Federer pressures Del Potro, who make a running deep forhand, that Federer puts wide. 0-15
2nd serve. Del Potro with the pressure during this point. Del Potro comes to the net, and puts a volley long, that on my stream seemed way in. Swallowed my heart there. 15-15
Unreturned serve. 30-15
Ace. 40-15
Federer comes to the net and missas into the net. 40-30
2nd serve. Federer pressures Del potro, and comes to the net behind it. Del Potro must reach low to hit the ball, but can only put it inot the net. 7-7.
A Short rally. Del potro puts a forehand wide. 0-15.
2nd serve, slice return. Del Potro just pushes it back, and Federer hits the ball on the frame, it goes long. 15-15.
Chip return from Federer. Del Poro puts the ball back into the middle of the court. And Federer fires the winner cross court. 15-30
Another chip return. Federer eventually comes to the net. And he makes two reaching volleys. Del Potro have the court open with his forehand. But hits the tip of the net. But falls down on Federers court. 30-30.
2nd Serve. Federer gets control of the ball. And pushes Del Potro to reach and hit, and he misses long. 30- 40 Break ball!
Federer with a deep deep return. Gets control early. Del Potro touches the net again. And Federer have a chance to put it away, but puts it inot the net. Deuce.
Del Potro in control of the point. Moving Federer from side to side. In the end he can't keep up and fires it long. Adv Del Potro.
A poor return from Federer. And Del potro takes another close game. 8-7 Del Potro.
On August 03 2012 23:09 M2 wrote: Those guys are trained to play 5 long sets on big slam tournaments, lets not talk about tireness in the 3rd set still being 6:6
True, true. But you know, there's this nagging "I just want this set to be over already" that makes it harder in time.
On August 03 2012 23:21 Tunkeg wrote: Again Federer had the chance to break, and should have. But gets abit unlucky and plays a poor shot when it matters.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Just felt a little unlucky having two go Del Potro's way in the same game.
2nd serve.Federer puts the pressure on Del Potro from the get go. Del Potro slipping on the grasss, but gets a ball over. Federer hammers another ball back, which Del potro can't get in play. 0-15
Del Potro comes to the net on his third stroke. Federer passes with ease. 0-30
2nd serve. Federer with a sliced return. Del Potro to the net. It becomes a volleyduel. Del Potro dives and makes the final volley fall down on the line. 15-30. Del Potro holding his hip after the dive. Again the margins on Del potros side.
Unreturned serve. 30-30
Del Potro is hammering the balls in this point. Federer with an amazing defensive effort. Del Potro have two balls on the line. The last ball Federer fails to return. 30-40
Another great serve. Federer on the run. Del Potro puts the ball into the open court in the end. 9-8 Del Potro.
AMAZING volley with both sides at the net, capped by an absolutely brilliant diving shot from Del Potro to get the point. May have hurt himself on the dive, though.
2nd serve. A mediuem long duel. Federer puts a ball abit to short and Del Potro steps in and put the Forehand winner down the line. 0-15
Great serve by Federer followed up by a inside out forehand down the open court. 15-15
Ace. 30-15
2nd serve. Serves it out of the court. And cathces Del potro on the wrong leg with his forehand back into the same corner. Del potro fails to get the ball back. 40-15
Short really ends with Federer hitting the ball off his fram, way long. 15-15
A bomb of a serve down the line from Del Potro. Unreturned. 30-15
2nd serve. Another double fault!!! 30-30 Del potro challanges, but it is well long.
A medium long rally. Federer slices, and that puts Del Potro of his timing, who hit the corsscourt backhand wide. 30-40. Break ball again. COMEON COME ON!
Not much to say about that point, other than Del Potro hitting the ball on his frame and it goes way long. Federer breaks 10-9!!!!
The longer this set goes, the more I get the feeling that Federer's going to win this one. He seems to be going after his shots with more confidence and getting the easier holds.
2nd serve. A low slice forces Del Potro to the net. Federer have all the time in the world to make the pass. But hits the frame and out. 0-15
A 199 kmh serve from Federer is returned with a vengence. Putting Federer on the defensive. Federer oin the run can't do anything against Del Potro who fires a forehand winner. 0-30
Del Potro in control of another point. Forcing Federer to hit the ball into the net. 0-40
And Federer hits a unforced erros. And Del Potro Breaks.
Del Potro comes to the net after a short return of service from Federer. But Del Potro puts the ball out. 30-15.
2nd serve. Weak return from Federer gives Del potro total control of the point. It ends with Federer putting a glider of a ball long. 40-15
A good and long return from Federer puts him in charge. But it ends up with Federer putting an wasy ball into the net just a couple of strokes later. 11-10 Del Potro.
Will Federer hold serve now, or will he crumble again? When he have been broken serving for the match he have in big matches ended up losing the following service game.
On August 03 2012 23:54 Tunkeg wrote: If they keep up like this we might get a new olympic record here. Anyone knows what the longest deciding set have been in an alympic tennis match?
You haven't read recent Olympic tennis news have you? :D
Federer with a great serve. Coming to the net after. Del Potro makes a reaching volley that lands on the line. Federer misses the overhead after being forced to run back. 0-15 Lucky!
Federer with an unforced error. 0-30
Two great serves from Federer and he is back to 30-30.
On August 03 2012 23:54 Tunkeg wrote: If they keep up like this we might get a new olympic record here. Anyone knows what the longest deciding set have been in an alympic tennis match?
25-23 Tsonga > Raonic this year lol, we have a ways to go.
There should be a tiebreak for the last sets as well, it may be after 8:8 or 9: 9 or even 10:10 but its ridiculous to leave them playing forever and being more tired for their next game, especially on the 5th sets in grand slams. In that sense I like America Open the best
On August 04 2012 00:00 Draconicfire wrote: So I'm not very familiar with Tennis and I'm just tuning in. What denotes a win?
2 Games advantage in that last set. In most tournaments male players play a BO5 in which it is the same for the 5th set. If it happens before the last set they play first-to-seven or if it is 7:6 first to have 2 points advantage.
On August 03 2012 23:54 Tunkeg wrote: If they keep up like this we might get a new olympic record here. Anyone knows what the longest deciding set have been in an alympic tennis match?
25-23 Tsonga > Raonic this year lol, we have a ways to go.
Ah, hehe, didn't see that match. And haven't followed the draws besides the top 3's. But yeah, lets hope they don't go that far, hehe.
God, it's after 3am now. I know this is conduct unbecoming a Federer fan, but unless something happens in the next couple games i'm really going to have to head to bed and find out what happened tomorrow.
On August 03 2012 23:54 Tunkeg wrote: If they keep up like this we might get a new olympic record here. Anyone knows what the longest deciding set have been in an alympic tennis match?
25-23 Tsonga > Raonic this year lol, we have a ways to go.
Pretty sure they are going to pass that for time though, even if not games.
Tsonga vs Raonic was carried a lot more by the serve.
On August 04 2012 00:04 Alethios wrote: God, it's after 3am now. I know this is conduct unbecoming a Federer fan, but unless something happens in the next couple games i'm really going to have to head to bed and find out what happened tomorrow.
If you get some luck they may still be playing tomorrow :-)))))))
On August 03 2012 23:54 Tunkeg wrote: If they keep up like this we might get a new olympic record here. Anyone knows what the longest deciding set have been in an alympic tennis match?
25-23 Tsonga > Raonic this year lol, we have a ways to go.
Ah, hehe, didn't see that match. And haven't followed the draws besides the top 3's. But yeah, lets hope they don't go that far, hehe.
Yeah, no kidding. Unless Murray and Djokovic go that far too, would be pretty awesome
2nd serve. Federer with a misshit on the return, that lands in and short. It pulls del Potro to the net, he makes one volley, but Federer puts away the ball, and Del Potro can't get to it. 0-15
2nd serve. Federer runs around and hits his forehand. It puts Del Potro on the defensive. Federer follows up with a drop shot and Del Potro can't get it back over. 0-30
Another great serve return from Federer have Del Potro running. Del Potro ends up making a running forehand winner attempt crosscourt. The ball is out. 0-40 3 break balls!!!
Del potro puts Federer way on the defensive. Federer can't recover and ends up not getting the ball in at the end. 15-40
A 210 kmh serve for Del potro. Federer does well to get the ball in play. But Del Potro follow up with a forehand winner. 30-40.
Another huge serve of 208 kmh. Federer gets to play a short rally, but Del potro is really going for his shots and make a cross court forehand that Federer can't get back. Deuce.
Unreturned serve. Adv Del Potro.
2nd serve. Del potro on fire finnishes a short rally with an amazing forehand winner. 15-14 Del Potro.
2nd serve. Del Potros return is deep and puts Federer on the defensive. Federer ends up netting a pressured ball. 15-15
Federer with an easy miss on his follow up after the serve. 15-30
Unreturned serve. 30-30.
And an ace!! 40-30.
Great serve. Great return on the line. And Federer respond with a ball of his own on the line. And Del potro crushes the ball and Federer nets it. Deuce.
2nd serve. Ends with Del potro sending the ball long. Adv Federer.
Federer with an easy miss again. Deuce.
Another crazy good serve. Unreturned. Adv Federer.
2nd serve. Good serve, and a return that gives Federer alot of time. He puts it hard and deep to the del potro forehand. Who can only put it up high. Federer puts an overhead into Del Potro, who puts the ball back up again for an easy smash for Federer. 15-15
On August 04 2012 00:22 Aerisky wrote: No way, Federer's nemesis will probably always be Nadal. Federer is probably the second-best clay-courter of this era, Nadal was just too good.
Well, obviously Nadal and Djokovic are legitimate rivals. Del Potro's just a cut beneath. But it seems that every time Federer is about to achieve a major milestone, Del Potro is there to stymie him. Remains to see what will happen this time, of course.
2nd serve. Federer changes it up midway through the rally, and gets the upper hand. Her follows up with a hard forehand, which Del Potro can't get back into play. 0-15.
2nd serve. Ball was called ace, but Federer challanged. A long rally follows on the second serve, with Federer having some luck with a ball landing on the line of Del potro giving Federer the upper hand. He pressures Del Potro, who can only fire a ball long. 0-30.
Ace, Federer challanges again, but the ball is good. 15-30.
A bad bad rally for both players. Ending with Federer hitting the ball long. 30-30
Del Potro is pushing Federer on the back hand. Hits a heavy backhand to Federers backhand and comes to the net. It is way open down the line, but Federer barely misses. 40-30.
2nd serve. Another backhand cross duel. Ending with Federer sending a lofty ball just out. 16-15 Del Potro now.
On August 04 2012 00:22 Aerisky wrote: No way, Federer's nemesis will probably always be Nadal. Federer is probably the second-best clay-courter of this era, Nadal was just too good.
Well, obviously Nadal and Djokovic are legitimate rivals. Del Potro's just a cut beneath. But it seems that every time Federer is about to achieve a major milestone, Del Potro is there to stymie him. Remains to see what will happen this time, of course.
I guess so. I can only recall USO 2009 though. And Federer still went through him in the 2009 FO semis five-setter when it looked like all was lost, and his big chance to get the career slam was shot.
Hope he can do the same today and get the career golden slam ._.
On August 04 2012 00:29 AgentChaos wrote: federer has so many unforced errors today
Partly the result of the wind. I think Federer's style partly accounts for that: he's a bit more about finesse over power, compared to the other top players, so the wind affects him more.
On August 04 2012 00:22 Aerisky wrote: No way, Federer's nemesis will probably always be Nadal. Federer is probably the second-best clay-courter of this era, Nadal was just too good.
Well, obviously Nadal and Djokovic are legitimate rivals. Del Potro's just a cut beneath. But it seems that every time Federer is about to achieve a major milestone, Del Potro is there to stymie him. Remains to see what will happen this time, of course.
I guess so. I can only recall USO 2009 though.
That's all I meant: USO 2009 and this Olympics—if he wins this match.
On August 04 2012 00:22 Aerisky wrote: No way, Federer's nemesis will probably always be Nadal. Federer is probably the second-best clay-courter of this era, Nadal was just too good.
Well, obviously Nadal and Djokovic are legitimate rivals. Del Potro's just a cut beneath. But it seems that every time Federer is about to achieve a major milestone, Del Potro is there to stymie him. Remains to see what will happen this time, of course.
I guess so. I can only recall USO 2009 though.
That's all I meant: USO 2009 and this Olympics—if he wins this match.
Ahh I see. ^^
Hope Fed's signature quick hold then long service game for his opponent will build up the pressure until Del Potro cracks...
2nd serve. Del Potro comes to the net, but not with any pressure behind it. Federer put the ball low into his feets, Del Potro hits the ball into the net.15-15
Again Del potro comes to the net. But this time with Federer on the defensive. He ends the point with a backhand volley winner. 30-15
And yet again to the net. This time Federer don't get the ball over when Del potro comes in. 40-15
Del Poitro rips at the ball now. Federer can't resist and sends the ball into the net. 17-16 to Del Potro.
I think we see the silve medalist and the fourth place finisher in this match, regardless of who wins. Unless something similar happends to Djokovic and Murray, they will have a huge advantage.
2nd serve. Del Potro with a hard return, that puts Federer on the defensive. Federer keeps running in between and in the end he can't get the ball back. 15-15
Serve out wide. Follow up by wrong footing Del potro for a winner. 30-15
2nd serve. Again Delk Potro puts Federer on the defensive. But it ends up with Del Potro hitting an easy ball into the net. 40-15.
2nd serve. The point ends with an easy ball put into the net from Del Potro. 0-15
Great return from Federer. He gets Del Potro on the defensive. Moves him from side to side, and ends it with a forehand down to Del Potros backhand corner. 0-30
A medium long rally have Del Potro sending the ball long. He challanges, but is wrong. 0-40 Federer.
Strong serve from Del potro gets Del Potro the upper hands. He comes to the net and stresses Federer who put the ball into the net. 15-40.
2nd serve. Federer runs around, but don't get much pressure behind it. Del Potro rips at the ball, and get somewhat the upper hand, before he puts the ball into the net! Federer breaks. 18-17 Federer.
And Federer saves one that he would have lost 10 minutes ago. Another chance to serve for game, and the level he's just stepped his game up to, I think he's going to finally get it this time.
On August 04 2012 00:37 rapture wrote: poor roger so exhausted, he can barely get (decent) shots over the net....
Really? I can't tell because of the terrible fps.
Ugh.............if this is true then yeah, as Tunkeg said these guys are really going to have it tough.
I don't agree. Federer looks sharp enough. But getting the ball over the net with the beastly forehands Del Potro is throwing is hard enough for even a totally fresh player.
2nd serve. A medium long rally, ends with Del potro sending the ball long. 15-0.
Strong return from Del Potro gives him the command. Federer can't resist, and puts it inot the net. 15-15
Dobule fault. Federer challanges, but is wrong. 15-30.
2nd serve. Nerves getting Federer again? NO! He pressure Del Potro, who hits a running forehand long. 30-30
Yet again a 2nd serve. A long duel with no one really taking command ends with Del Potro going for the backhand down the line. 40-30. Match ball Federer.!!!
And 2nd serve! Federer ends up at the net, and fails to put the volley away. Into the net. Deuce.
A lovely one-two punch from Federer. Serving out wide, putting the follow up into the open court. Adv Federer.
2nd serve. A medium long rally. Ends with Del Potro putting a backhand into the net. FEDERER WINS THE MATCH 19-17!
On August 04 2012 00:37 rapture wrote: poor roger so exhausted, he can barely get (decent) shots over the net....
Really? I can't tell because of the terrible fps.
Ugh.............if this is true then yeah, as Tunkeg said these guys are really going to have it tough.
I don't agree. Federer looks sharp enough. But getting the ball over the net with the beastly forehands Del Potro is throwing is hard enough for even a totally fresh player.
Ah, I see. I'm just basing everything on this thread haha, can't see what's going on at all.
Yeah, hope he's able to recover by Sunday. It was a brutal match but with a grand-slam recovery time after a grand-slam-level match, he should probably be fine. What a great match even though I missed most of the play ._.
On August 04 2012 00:52 Aerisky wrote: Condolences to Del Potro. He played really really well, perhaps the match of his life. Great tennis.
I'm so happy right now!! YES!!
Indeed, Del Potro played amazing. Such hard hitting great tennis. I love his way of tennis, not as much as Federers but still. Both deserved winning this.
On August 04 2012 00:54 Aerisky wrote: What was the match length?
Yeah, hope he's able to recover by Sunday. It was a brutal match but with a grand-slam recovery time after a grand-slam-level match, he should probably be fine. What a great match even though I missed most of the play ._.
On August 04 2012 00:54 Aerisky wrote: What was the match length?
Yeah, hope he's able to recover by Sunday. It was a brutal match but with a grand-slam recovery time after a grand-slam-level match, he should probably be fine. What a great match even though I missed most of the play ._.
Fed really needs to get rid of those unforced errors to have a chance in the finals. I have Fed as a slight favorite vs Murray, but if the Djoker wins today I think he'll take gold.
On August 04 2012 01:03 Farad wrote: Fed really needs to get rid of those unforced errors to have a chance in the finals. I have Fed as a slight favorite vs Murray, but if the Djoker wins today I think he'll take gold.
Honestly, if Murray wins vs Djoko today i'll also see him as a favourite in the final. Then again i haven't seen much of the tourneay - only last set of fed vs del potro and fed played super sloppy there.
Gotta give it to Federer 60-40, I'd say he's heavily favored. Murray playing good and Federer's tired but Federer seems to always beat Murray when it matters.
On August 04 2012 00:46 Tunkeg wrote: 18-17, 3rd set.
Federer serving.
2nd serve. A medium long rally, ends with Del potro sending the ball long. 15-0.
Strong return from Del Potro gives him the command. Federer can't resist, and puts it inot the net. 15-15
Dobule fault. Federer challanges, but is wrong. 15-30.
2nd serve. Nerves getting Federer again? NO! He pressure Del Potro, who hits a running forehand long. 30-30
Yet again a 2nd serve. A long duel with no one really taking command ends with Del Potro going for the backhand down the line. 40-30. Match ball Federer.!!!
And 2nd serve! Federer ends up at the net, and fails to put the volley away. Into the net. Deuce.
A lovely one-two punch from Federer. Serving out wide, putting the follow up into the open court. Adv Federer.
2nd serve. A medium long rally. Ends with Del Potro putting a backhand into the net. FEDERER WINS THE MATCH 19-17!
Oh thank god. Thanks again for the LR Tunkeg, let me catch up on the match this morning.
So Murray beat Djoko? Crazy. Rematch of the Wimby final.
Honestly 4 hours and 25 minutes is huge but Federe has played significantly longer matches and come right back to win Bo5s. Cautiously optimistic, Roger's big chance here to get that career golden slam!! >__<
It would mean more for Federer I think in the context of the game of tennis, but Murray winning in London would, of course, be a big win. I'm hoping Fed can once again beat Murray here to get that gold medal.
If Serena had played mixed doubles with Isner she'd have gotten three medals instead of two (presumably the second via women's doubles with Venus tomorrow).
Serena so dominant when she's on form. Won the whole tournament without losing more than 3 games in any set. If she hadn't had injury and motivation issues in the past she could have been the best ever.
On August 05 2012 05:55 red4ce wrote: Serena so dominant when she's on form. Won the whole tournament without losing more than 3 games in any set. If she hadn't had injury and motivation issues in the past she could have been the best ever.
Definitely a possibility given how bad/inconsistent the current generation of the WTA is on the whole.
Like everyone else has said already, mixed doubles is a joke. It's one of those entertainment events that someone actually took seriously and obviously got abused in terms of strategy.
On August 05 2012 07:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Like everyone else has said already, mixed doubles is a joke. It's one of those entertainment events that someone actually took seriously and obviously got abused in terms of strategy.
First of all, I searched the whole thread and I don't see anyone else saying that. Secondly, what makes mixed doubles a joke? I'm pretty sure that everyone in the running for a gold medal takes it seriously, and a mixed doubles game is a tennis game like any other.
On August 05 2012 07:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Like everyone else has said already, mixed doubles is a joke. It's one of those entertainment events that someone actually took seriously and obviously got abused in terms of strategy.
First of all, I searched the whole thread and I don't see anyone else saying that. Secondly, what makes mixed doubles a joke? I'm pretty sure that everyone in the running for a gold medal takes it seriously, and a mixed doubles game is a tennis game like any other.
Oh, it wasn't this thread, it was in the general discussion. There weren't too many people saying that, but while I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a joke, mixed doubles is definitely still sort of "broken" in my humble opinion.
On August 04 2012 21:50 Mafe wrote: Japan is really making huge improvements in football, both men's and women's. Would not be surprised if we see them win both tournaments this olympics and then go at least to the quarters in 2014.
On August 05 2012 07:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Like everyone else has said already, mixed doubles is a joke. It's one of those entertainment events that someone actually took seriously and obviously got abused in terms of strategy.
First of all, I searched the whole thread and I don't see anyone else saying that. Secondly, what makes mixed doubles a joke? I'm pretty sure that everyone in the running for a gold medal takes it seriously, and a mixed doubles game is a tennis game like any other.
If it's not this thread it might've been in the other general olympic discussion, but imagine pairing a professional and a 12 year old and tell them to compete for a gold medal. Obviously this is more extreme but in principal it's basically the same thing. Both teams just target the girl and that's the whole game. It's just silly to tie arbitrary rules to the participating competitors, in this case having to be a girl and a guy each.
On August 05 2012 07:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Like everyone else has said already, mixed doubles is a joke. It's one of those entertainment events that someone actually took seriously and obviously got abused in terms of strategy.
First of all, I searched the whole thread and I don't see anyone else saying that. Secondly, what makes mixed doubles a joke? I'm pretty sure that everyone in the running for a gold medal takes it seriously, and a mixed doubles game is a tennis game like any other.
If it's not this thread it might've been in the other general olympic discussion, but imagine pairing a professional and a 12 year old and tell them to compete for a gold medal. Obviously this is more extreme but in principal it's basically the same thing. Both teams just target the girl and that's the whole game. It's just silly to tie arbitrary rules to the participating competitors, in this case having to be a girl and a guy each.
I'm all for gender equity and having mixed events, but honestly I agree entirely. The games are just stupid.
Perhaps it could work for time based competitions. Say a team swimming event with equal numbers men and women, or a mixed double sculls event in the rowing perhaps. In the more directly competitive sports however, it always becomes a question of targeting the women. That's fine for social indoor netball, or hockey (both of which I very much enjoy playing), but they're completely unsuited for an Olympic event.
As a competitive event I agree with you it's rather silly but then there are many very silly Olympic events in my opinion.
For entertainment value though it's hilarious! It does look like Murray is playing with a little girl. He doesn't really give a crap but for her this is like her lifes dream. Whenever the woman on the other team has to serve to Murray it's always a good laugh too.
So DelPo vs Djoko is starting now? I don't suppose anybody has a stream? Our free to air channel is playing the women's marathon (which is admittedly pretty cool).
On August 05 2012 20:06 Alethios wrote: So DelPo vs Djoko is starting now? I don't suppose anybody has a stream? Our free to air channel is playing the women's marathon (which is admittedly pretty cool).
Among the seven different streams covering the olympics here in Norway, neither is showing the bronze match. They chose the womens doubles final instead on the one that sends tennis
At least it's 5 sets. I feel a lot better about Federer's chances in best of 5 for sure. Murray has beaten him so many times in best of 3s haha.
I feel very scared, Murray probably is really really hungry for the gold since it's London Olympics. Plus, he has a huge chance for redemption here in yet another finals on the very same court. I really want Roger to get that career golden smal though. gogogo!!
always have zero confidence in Murray v big 3 in a big final which I guess this is these days, even if he was 2-0 up and a break I'd still fancy Fed. That being said I really hope he wins.
It's those errors again, grah. He will have to play at a higher level overall than he did against Del Potro. Murray playing solidly and Federer playing poorly obviously isn't good for him lol. :x
Hope he can LWWW. 6-2 is definitely not a nice score though :/
Maybe Federer is being a hero and gifting this one to Murray ._.
Come on yo! Hope it's not fatigue or anything like that.
Edit: never mind, Federer looks pretty pissed off lol. And not in a good way like "I'm going to turn myself around and trash this squirt" but in a Madrid 2011, USO 2009, AO 2008 sort of way ;__;
On August 05 2012 23:04 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm not gonna get too excited. Murray can crumble at any point in a 5 set match, and Federer can find unstoppable form at any point.
This is true, but as a Federer fan it's also pretty heart-breaking to see him completely unable to find a good form oftentimes. This year at Rome against Djokovic was an example of that. Playing like crap until Djokovic was serving for he match, Federer goes godmode and takes it to a breaker, but falls apart anyway and it's too late at that point.
For some reason Murray always comes across as a really solid player even though he has had some weird early exits. If Federer doesn't pick up his game it could really turn out to be another team GB gold.
And arghhhh I'm really tired, must get into Fedtard fanboy mode ^^
On August 05 2012 23:10 Aerisky wrote: Anyone watching on a stream? I'm going through a list but none of them are loading >.<
Allez Roger!
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/131676 when sopcast buffers to 100% go to options and choose VLC as your own player, then press ok. to watch the game click on this button
And with the shittiest game of tennis I have ever seen I am done watching this finals. Murray can't find his first serve, Federer have a billion chances with the ball in play to break back and he just don't do it!!!! Yes Murray have some luck again on some key points, but Federer isn't stepping up, and if he can't break when Murray play like this it is just over. Don't know if it is fatigue or what but this is so so poor from Federer, and I can't stomach watching him play like this. Murray deserves a huge win though after some of his heartbreaking losses though, so if he win (very likely) congratulations to him and british tennis in general.
On August 05 2012 23:24 Tunkeg wrote: And with the shittiest game of tennis I have ever seen I am done watching this finals. Murray can't find his first serve, Federer have a billion chances with the ball in play to break back and he just don't do it!!!! Yes Murray have some luck again on some key points, but Federer isn't stepping up, and if he can't break when Murray play like this it is just over. Don't know if it is fatigue or what but this is so so poor from Federer, and I can't stomach watching him play like this. Murray deserves a huge win though after some of his heartbreaking losses though, so if he win (very likely) congratulations to him and british tennis in general.
Nice having you with us, this is really sad for me but ultimately if Murray wins it's deserved for him. Also very sad to see Federer play an amazing semis only to come to the final like this. With a semi like that, I'm sure Del Potro is rooting for Federer to take it all too. ;__;
On August 05 2012 23:26 Telcontar wrote: A little early to be writing Fed off. The guy can turn anything around.
I dunno, I'd like to agree with you but his 5-set record isn't very good and he's not that well-known for coming back, especially in finals. Usually if he isn't playing pretty well enough in a finals, he's not going to be able to up his level and come back ;__;
7:5 and 6:4 bronze medal for del Potro against Djokovic. Would be extremely funny if Federer could get a break now when it does not matter (regarding this set in my opinion)
Not to take anything away from Murray but I don't think anyone really cares about the Olympic tennis, it's the same as the cycling road race and it'll be the same for golf in rio, there are better titles to win than an Olympic gold medal in the sport
On August 06 2012 00:01 smr wrote: Story of the match for me: Federer goes agressive towards the net but Murray hits too hard and precise.
More like Federer making a ton of errors
To be fair, I think it's a combination of both. Got to give credit for Murray for playing percentage tennis generally and just being smart, and also Federer playing like he has a flight to catch doesn't help things either ;_;
On August 06 2012 00:03 Scaramanga wrote: Not to take anything away from Murray but I don't think anyone really cares about the Olympic tennis, it's the same as the cycling road race and it'll be the same for golf in rio, there are better titles to win than an Olympic gold medal in the sport
I mean yeah, in tennis grand slams mean sooo much more, but still, for Federer it's one of the few titles he lacks. Also afaik he has said that he really wants to win an Olympic gold on multiple occasions :///
On August 06 2012 00:03 Scaramanga wrote: Not to take anything away from Murray but I don't think anyone really cares about the Olympic tennis, it's the same as the cycling road race and it'll be the same for golf in rio, there are better titles to win than an Olympic gold medal in the sport
On August 06 2012 00:18 Asha` wrote: Weird match, Fed was just shit.
Grats to Murray, strange to think that's the biggest title of his career. Will be interesting to see how much the GB media talk this up.
Of course they'll talk it up, the last few days has been fantastic for British sport, and the olympics has delivered more than anyone really thought was possible. Hopefully this win will be put into context in the long run though, Murray is far from playing like the best in the world.
Oh well, I was rooting for Federer since this was probably his last realistic chance to win Olympics singles gold, but Murray deserved a major win already, and nice for Britain that he pulled it out here.
Unlike most of you, I guess, I don't mind watching mixed doubles. I'll be rooting for Murray to win again there—would be cool for him to get two golds in a day and Laura Robson is cute.
On August 06 2012 00:19 Arceus wrote: So Murray finally won a bo5 final. Dont know if he would happily trade it for a Slam
Of course he'd trade it for a slam. The Olympics is barely in line with the World tour finals in terms of prestige, and it really only got extra attention this year since it was at Wimbledon and Federer could add a gold to his achievement list.
Murray wouldnt even be close to considering trading this for a slam. A slam you can win 4 times a year. The top players arent even guaranteed to get to play the olympics on home court so winning it by beating the nr 1 and 2 ranked players in world is a lot bigger.
Congrats to Andy Murray. He played a pretty good match (except all the breakpointsopportunities he had against him and the 51%!! first serve percentage). Roger Federer was way below par (at least for as long I watched).
I think Andy Murray would rather have won the last final against Roger but winning the Olympic gold medal "at home" is almost as huge a win for Andy Murray. It would also have counted as a huge win for Roger as he would have completed a career golden slam. But for anyone else I'd rank an olympic win about as high as Massu's win in 2004 or Kafelnikov's win in 2000 win (not very notable really). But for both Murray and Federer it would have been huge to win it this year. Even though I am sad that Federer won't complete his golden slam I hope this win for Murray will get the british media off his back and that he can finally step up and beat Nadal and Djokovic in grand slam finals in the years to come.
On August 06 2012 00:33 Lillpapps wrote: Murray wouldnt even be close to considering trading this for a slam. A slam you can win 4 times a year. The top players arent even guaranteed to get to play the olympics on home court so winning it by beating the nr 1 and 2 ranked players in world is a lot bigger.
you know what, It may take Murray 25 tries to finally win a Slam. And it's not like hes a regular finalist by any mean (Fed,Djo & Nad are). Kid just doesnt have the gut to show up strong in the final. Im not taking away anything from this well-deserved victory btw
On August 06 2012 00:33 Lillpapps wrote: Murray wouldnt even be close to considering trading this for a slam. A slam you can win 4 times a year. The top players arent even guaranteed to get to play the olympics on home court so winning it by beating the nr 1 and 2 ranked players in world is a lot bigger.
Just because it happens less often doesn't mean it's more prestigious -_-
For the record, you have to win 7 best-of-5 matches to win a major. Olympics is 6 best-of-3 matches and one best-of-5. Going through the world number 1 and 2 is always going to be great. But here's another 4 statistic for you: he's 0 for 4 in grand slam finals. It's incredibly difficult to win a grand slam, and there was some crazy statistic that in the past however many years (since 2004 French Open I believe, so past 8 years?), the only winners have been Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, and Del Potro. Winning a slam is a fantastic accomplishment and claiming any other tournament is more prestigious is actually a slight to tennis history.
Murray's victory was really deserved and it goes without saying that it was incredible. But there is no way it's better than a grand slam win.
On August 06 2012 00:33 Lillpapps wrote: Murray wouldnt even be close to considering trading this for a slam. A slam you can win 4 times a year. The top players arent even guaranteed to get to play the olympics on home court so winning it by beating the nr 1 and 2 ranked players in world is a lot bigger.
He would trade in an instant, this holds a fraction of the prestige that comes with winning a slam. When you grow up watching you hero's playing in the major tournaments, dreaming you'll get there one day, you aren't hoping to win a gold medal, you're hoping to win the Wimbledon, US, French or Australian title, regardless of how frequent they are.
Why are people hating on the Olympics in this thread? How are the Olympics not important? How many people can say that they've won gold in tennis? That they represented their country and won? Like I understand if you're upset that Federer lost but that's no reason to think that this wasn't an important match for either player or unimportant for Great Britain. I mean, it's the damn Olympics. Federer obviously thought it was prestigious. There were some amazing and heartfelt performances during the tournament (Del Potro, Tsonga, that guy from Cyprus, etc.) and coming into this as a spectator has made me a fan of tennis for life.
"Not as good as a grand slam"? A gold medal in the Olympics? Jesus. People have killed for less.
yeah i think this win, especially in his home country means a lot more than any slam except maybe a wimbledon and even then i think itd be a toss up for murray.
Wow this is a huge win for Murray. A Gold Medal in a Home Olympics. Incredible. The British media and public will now be behind him and mentally he might have turned a corner considering the opponents he beat.
Alright, for Murray it might be a different matter since he won it at his home and whatnot. So that might be an exceptional case (but I'm still inclined to think that a grand slam even for Murray is way, way up there...debatable whether it would be better than a gold but I'm personally inclined think it's less than a grand slam by a significant margin).
However, no offense (and I really don't mean any), but people who think winning a gold medal > major in general likely do not follow tennis. Winning a grand slam is every player's dream. The Olympics may seem like something great to win overall for those who don't really follow tennis, but the truth is that overall a gold medal in the Olympics is not that big of an accomplishment in men's tennis.
We can put it in a historical context. While some events, such as Wimbledon with over 120 years of history, have existed for a long, long time, tennis has only been a medal event in the Olympics since 1988. It's a good decade younger than Microsoft (I dunno, just random comparison). Last time before that was in 1924, long before the open era. And only since 2004 has it even counted towards rankings at all.
The winners since 1988 are: Miloslav Mečíř, Marc Rosset, Andre Agassi, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Nicolás Massú, and Rafael Nadal, none of whom are in contention for greatest of all time. It remains to be seen how Nadal's career turns out of course. However, you will not see a single one of those names in the contest for greatest of all time. Agassi in particular I really like as well, but he is nowhere near the greatest of all time despite a fantastic career and really saddening back issues because of said long career.
And all that being said, of course this is a massive achievement for Murray. But in general, an Olympic gold is nowhere near to a grand slam title. It's actually somewhat disrespectful to some of the greatest champions of our time to claim otherwise. Some players play their entire lives to try to win a single grand slam title. Coria, a famously amazing clay-courter, lost in the final of the French Open to Gaudio in five sets, after winning the first set 6-0 and having 2 match points, and he never recovered for the rest of his career. Some of the most amazing victories and defeats in men's tennis have occurred in grand slams, and the unparalleled quality of the level of play makes up the foundation of tennis, in a sense.
Not that many athletes get to compete in a home olympics. I can't even imagine how winning one would feel. Great for Murray and well deserved considering his play.
On August 06 2012 01:25 Aerisky wrote: Alright, for Murray it might be a different matter since he won it at his home and whatnot. So that might be an exceptional case (but I'm still inclined to think that a grand slam even for Murray is way, way up there...debatable whether it would be better than a gold but I'm personally inclined think it's less than a grand slam by a significant margin).
However, no offense (and I really don't mean any), but people who think winning a gold medal > major in general likely do not follow tennis. Winning a grand slam is every player's dream. The Olympics may seem like something great to win overall for those who don't really follow tennis, but the truth is that overall a gold medal in the Olympics is not that big of an accomplishment in men's tennis.
We can put it in a historical context. While some events, such as Wimbledon with over 120 years of history, have existed for a long, long time, tennis has only been a medal event in the Olympics since 1988. It's a good decade younger than Microsoft (I dunno, just random comparison). Last time before that was in 1924, long before the open era. And only since 2004 has it even counted towards rankings at all.
The winners since 1988 are: Miloslav Mečíř, Marc Rosset, Andre Agassi, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Nicolás Massú, and Rafael Nadal, none of whom are in contention for greatest of all time. It remains to be seen how Nadal's career turns out of course. However, you will not see a single one of those names in the contest for greatest of all time. Agassi in particular I really like as well, but he is nowhere near the greatest of all time despite a fantastic career and really saddening back issues because of said long career.
And all that being said, of course this is a massive achievement for Murray. But in general, an Olympic gold is nowhere near to a grand slam title. It's actually somewhat disrespectful to some of the greatest champions of our time to claim otherwise. Some players play their entire lives to try to win a single grand slam title. Coria, a famously amazing clay-courter, lost in the final of the French Open to Gaudio in five sets, after winning the first set 6-0 and having 2 match points, and he never recovered for the rest of his career. Some of the most amazing victories and defeats in men's tennis have occurred in grand slams, and the unparalleled quality of the level of play makes up the foundation of tennis, in a sense.
While I agree with you that a GS > Gold medal, I still think winning the gold medal in the olympic is a great accomplishment. Let us not kid ourself we would have been pretty happy had Federer won this. I also think the prestige have risen the last few olympics with true world class players winning. But still Federer winning Wimbledon was for me more important than him winning today.
Also, what an interesting year of tennis this have been. The four greats all have taken one important title each. US Open will in my book crown the best tennisplayer of 2012.
On August 06 2012 02:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Congrats to Murray... I wish Federer had won it, but he clearly didn't deserve the gold this time around.
Yeah, no kidding. That was actually sort of embarassing ._. Murray deserved that match 100%, and he showed it in straights.
On August 06 2012 01:07 jeeeeohn wrote: Why are people hating on the Olympics in this thread? How are the Olympics not important? How many people can say that they've won gold in tennis? That they represented their country and won? Like I understand if you're upset that Federer lost but that's no reason to think that this wasn't an important match for either player or unimportant for Great Britain. I mean, it's the damn Olympics. Federer obviously thought it was prestigious. There were some amazing and heartfelt performances during the tournament (Del Potro, Tsonga, that guy from Cyprus, etc.) and coming into this as a spectator has made me a fan of tennis for life.
"Not as good as a grand slam"? A gold medal in the Olympics? Jesus. People have killed for less.
I'm happy the tournament has made you a tennis fan for life, but you don't understand the relationship tennis has historically had with the Olympics if you think it is equivalent to any of the majors.
It has very little historical relevance given tennis was absent 64 years from the games till 1988. This means many of the greats like Borg, McEnroe, Connors etc never even had a chance to offer it some importance.
It's really only the last decade or so (thanks in part due to the ATP actually awarding a handful of points for it) that the top players have even bothered to show up reliably, in the past many players treated it like the Australian Open was once treated and just skipped it entirely (Sampras and Agassi only bothered to try for one etc).
It's also only bo3 format up until a bo5 finals, which makes it only slightly more competitive or impressive a win than one of the 9 masters 1000 events held each year. The issue of surface plays a part too since unlike the year round shift between clay/grass/hardcourt a four year gap means players can be screwed while at their best simply by the olympics being held on a bad surface for them (Murray probably wouldn't have even medalled if this was on clay for instance)
Maybe down the road it will be seen as being a similar achievement, but certainly right now almost every player would trade olympic gold for a grand slam in a heartbeat.
It's still 100% a great achievement for Murray of course, and hopefully he can use the confidence boost here to actually win a grand slam in the future.
I really like Murray as a person as well as a player, and was always disappointed when he came up short in the grand slams. Good on him to win a medal in his home country!
Not quite, but there's no shame in losing to an established doubles team in the final. Superhuman effort from Murray though, and I hope Laura Robson won't take this too hard, she's only 18 and this was by far the biggest match she's ever played so its only natural that she might struggle with the pressure a bit.
A gold and a silver is a good result, especially from 2 players who don't generally play doubles.
On August 06 2012 04:30 Mithriel wrote: so sad Federer lost, just wanted him to win the last tournament he hadnt won yet!
But Murray was just unstoppable today!
Yeah pretty bummed out too for Federer. I almost hope he play another 4 years and ends his career with an Olympic win but I doubt that will happen as I think he's 30 already. Who knows though, Tennis is usually seen as a sport with short careers but Federer seems to have avoided injuries that plague a lot of players and he's still on top of the tennis world right now.