Group Stage Double Round Robin Each team plays 18 matches. All matches are Bo1 Top 6 qualifies to the Spring Playoffs
Playoffs All matches are played in Bo5 Winner qualifies for Mid-Season Invitational 2020 The LEC 2020 Spring Playoffs will follow the same format as Summer 2019
On January 19 2020 01:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: Just to let whoever does the calendar know, day 1 LEC has G2 vs MAD Team not Mad Lions, its correct on day 2.
I tried fixing it myself but it said the match hasn't started and cannot be changed TT
Rekkless definitely could have won that 1v3 with the health he had with Hurricane and Aphelios
He's playing a bit passive/safe again imo. This is the start of the season, he should play a bit more reckless (lol), especially when he gets Aphelios who can blow entire teams up so fast. OG looked solid, not really a surprise.
- Nukeduck >>> Abeddagge, not surprising. Him and Humanoid are really disappointing for the EU mid lane dynasty. Forg1ven in elo hell again. - Can't believe a team actually thought they could give Rekkles Aphelios again. Forget the Noc pick, Rekkles clearly played the champion well in his first game and knows all the secret mechanics. The random ult into 3 man stun in the MSF base to end it tells you everything you need to know about the champ, same with his first two kills. Also the fact he solo killed the T2 top tower with like one wave, most ADC can't do that, only specialists like Jinx and Trist. - Think I'm going to watch more of Excel and Rogue this split, they're both fun mid tier teams with aspirations for top 4 finish, if not higher.
I think OG is going to be one of the teams I dont like. Way too cautious in the way they play. Just too many very experienced players on one team.
I had been a fan of Roccat and Rogue are kind of their successor, so I am rooting for them. And they might actually be better than OG. I like how they evolved as a team and the adc change was perfect.
They have a high ceiling agreed, Hans is a stellar ADC, it's just he's rarely ever been allowed on the international stage. And Larrsen is the most solid newish midlaner in the LEC, plus he's more integral to the team's wins than Nemesis.
- Humanoid and Abeddage continue to disappoint. So many flaws, few upsides. - OG clearly showed they're a cut above RGE, but they could both still be top 4. The real question is if OG has finally closed the gap to G2. - Fnatic showed that Senna's big weakness is camping the fuck out of her, since she has no solid escape once flash is down. Also, Fnatic once again showing how clean they can end games where they get a good snowball, anyone remember how many sub min 25 games they had last season? - VIT, SK and MSF are going to be fighting for bottom 3 spots.
G2 is such a beautiful and wondrously confusing team, where both mid laners are playing marksmen champions, and Soraka top
That's G2 playing troll comps again to scare the crap out of everyone. They know they can get away with it vs VIT, and it shows they have an incredible understanding of the game. But imo the game was more heavily decided by mechanical ability, Yasuo died with flash up and the tower dive looked like G2 was playing against bots.
To be fair, when they brought up the dmg to champs stat at min 24, everyone except the fed mid laners and Rumble were basically never involved in a single skirmish. This is the kind of snooze fest you still get from lower EU teams, they focus only on objectives but are too scared to fight for them, no one is actually winning.Also how is Senna supposed to AA an invisible Qiyana/Elise, or a Rakan who's flash ulting her, S04 comp sucked imo, just picking OP champs instead of a real draft.
G2 is such a beautiful and wondrously confusing team, where both mid laners are playing marksmen champions, and Soraka top
That's G2 playing troll comps again to scare the crap out of everyone. They know they can get away with it vs VIT, and it shows they have an incredible understanding of the game. But imo the game was more heavily decided by mechanical ability, Yasuo died with flash up and the tower dive looked like G2 was playing against bots.
But that wasn't a troll comp? Winning lanes for top and mid, equally BS adc and an early-mid game jungler to protect the early game and make them reach critical mass for the comp to turn online so they could just bulldozer VIT down.
On February 02 2020 03:40 DarkCore wrote: To be fair, when they brought up the dmg to champs stat at min 24, everyone except the fed mid laners and Rumble were basically never involved in a single skirmish. This is the kind of snooze fest you still get from lower EU teams, they focus only on objectives but are too scared to fight for them, no one is actually winning.Also how is Senna supposed to AA an invisible Qiyana/Elise, or a Rakan who's flash ulting her, S04 comp sucked imo, just picking OP champs instead of a real draft.
He'd probably have an easier time autoing if he had more than 32 stacks in 45 minutes.
Wait, are you serious? I did not catch that, that's trash levels of soul collection.
But that wasn't a troll comp? Winning lanes for top and mid, equally BS adc and an early-mid game jungler to protect the early game and make them reach critical mass for the comp to turn online so they could just bulldozer VIT down.
It's a G2 troll comp for the reason I mentioned, Soraka is a valid answer to the Orrn pick and G2 is able to out execute their opponent, so the downsides of the pick never surface. I don't expect it to work quite as flawlessly vs another top team.
If it was a spectator bug, it happened to him yesterday too. Didn't happen to rekkles here, he finished the game with over 60. As did Hans Sama last game.
Based on Forgiven's typical behavior I think he's just lying to avoid responsibility and shield his ego, tbh.
I can't tell if I'm retarded, or G2 is just sandbagging.
G2s comp to me just feels like it shouldn't be able to win games without complete vision control and vastly superior micro and macro play. Just literally zero damage, zero safe waveclear, and no real engage or sieging ability or ability to kill objectives, and the comp falls off really fast.
Am I just missing something completely, or is that draft mad disrespect? Also, how does OG only buy one Grevious wounds vs Raka+Senna+Lee+Thresh? Two diff big heals with three different sources of shields for someone when they get low + Ardent heals. Idk. I think that should have been first or second buy for mid and not too, then you just run them down because LeBlanc can't really teamfight. I guess it works out because G2 just has so much map control and pressure from all of their lanes winning all the time, but I don't think that draft should be able to win. Idk.
Am I just missing something completely, or is that draft mad disrespect?
If you changed Soraka with something normal, it would be a very standard comp. With the Soraka pick they had to make sure they executed everything perfectly, they messed up once which resulted in OG baron.
I agree, OG should've gone with an Exec on either Upset or Xerxe, even if it delays their build/tankiness. Nukeduck was too far behind to afford it, 4 item LB vs 2 item Sylas is a game ending damage difference. The Sylas pick needed to snowball hard early mid, the champ's been nerfed too hard and there were no crazy ultimates for him to steal. But I think OG had the right idea about dealing with the comp, Rumble applying pressure in the side lanes with Rek'Sai trying to kill her. But they had no answer to LB, Senna zoning ability is mindboggingly stupid in later fights, and Destiny isn't completely clean in his engages (but he seems to have a lot of mechanical ability).
Turned out to be a great game but it sure had some slobby plays. + Show Spoiler +
Loved Mickey casually getting oneshot by Nemesis when they setup for Herald #2(?) and then later Mickey goes full Neo and dodge a billion skillshots and get the kill on in what basically ends up a 1v3.
Favorite game of the split so far, at least watching LEC and LCK. I think if RGE hadn't given away so many OP picks they might've even won (but Senna, LB really strong atm too), they tried so hard and played super well considering all it takes is for Soraka to hit a single silence on LB/Senna and the fight is basically over.
I dont really know if I like Soraka being meta or not. She's one of the most frustrating (if not the most) champs to play again so the player in me just goes "reeeeeeeeeeeee" when I see her, but on the other hand it makes for some pretty interesting games to watch.
Pretty sad Riot are doing their usual "support champion outside bot? nerf nerf nerf" balancing, it's only been one patch the teams have barely had any time to work out counters. :-/
Idk, I've always considered Soraka insta silence a pretty broken ability, it basically hard counters half the champion pool. It took Riot ages to nerf the damage on the ability because people were maxing it first in bot lane for that sweet, sweet non tradeable harass, but now pros have finally realized it's still a a god tier ability. Everyone focuses on her insane healing ability and how Grievous Wounds struggles when you stack healing, but her E is what really separates her from Sona and Nami, it's in the same category as Cass W and Yasuo Windwall when it comes to 'non interactive zero counterplay ability'.
On February 08 2020 08:38 DarkCore wrote: Idk, I've always considered Soraka insta silence a pretty broken ability, it basically hard counters half the champion pool. It took Riot ages to nerf the damage on the ability because people were maxing it first in bot lane for that sweet, sweet non tradeable harass, but now pros have finally realized it's still a a god tier ability. Everyone focuses on her insane healing ability and how Grievous Wounds struggles when you stack healing, but her E is what really separates her from Sona and Nami, it's in the same category as Cass W and Yasuo Windwall when it comes to 'non interactive zero counterplay ability'.
I mean certain skills like ryze w, lux and vel ult still go rhtough Yas windwall and you can shield or heal in cass w. You can't do any of that in soraka silence, which is even more broken with my argument
It's only a rough category in my head, consisting of abilities which hard counter a lot of champion kits, while there's very little you can do against it unless your kit has niche interactions. Like Ezreal has no real answer to Yas W, while Kayle laughs at him.
Imo RGE looked better, but who cares if the enemy has Soraka? Like half a dozen clutch saves in the last fight alone.
not gonna lie, I assumed this game would have happened the opposite. I thought G2 was gonna go full giga try hard and over force things to style on Fnatic.
Rekkles healed from 1 to 100% off a single jungle camp with no lifesteal items. How can you not love Aphelios?
You could really see the caster's poor understanding of how broken Aphelios is when they actually though a low health Aphelios was a problem. He does everything, but better than everyone else too.
This game reminded me so much of the FNC vs G2 games last season, FNC has this belief that the only way to beat G2 is to play super aggressive and force objectives all the time, so that at least half the game G2 has to react instead of being proactive themselves. Except FNC tends to feed, like Mikyx said...
I don't get LEC's "dress code". I know they don't have it, but it's still weird to have Ender in a t-shirt and a jacket next to Drakos in a full suit. He even has a tie today lol.
I wish LEC embraced the "we're cool gamers just like you" style and dropped the suits entirely.
On February 16 2020 03:49 DarkCore wrote: Everytime I thought G2 was back to normal, they go and die. Did S04 do anything particularly crazy to win this game?
Nope but a lot of good team plays. Helping each other out. AD tp to mid etc. And just playing agressive and without hesitation in general, I guess because they had nothing to lose.
Also super fed Ryze kept losing on side lane, so that G2 win condition did not work at all.
On February 16 2020 03:49 DarkCore wrote: Everytime I thought G2 was back to normal, they go and die. Did S04 do anything particularly crazy to win this game?
Is Rich even involved in the scene anymore? He seems so arrogant whenever I read his comments. Especially because I thought Jankos played quite well for parts of the game, everyone on G2 inted.
Hyli needs to step up hard, this is one of his worst int relapses ever. He looks so desperate to make an engage, and MAD didn't fall for the FNC death brushes.
On February 16 2020 05:37 DarkCore wrote: Is Rich even involved in the scene anymore? He seems so arrogant whenever I read his comments. Especially because I thought Jankos played quite well for parts of the game, everyone on G2 inted.
Hyli needs to step up hard, this is one of his worst int relapses ever. He looks so desperate to make an engage, and MAD didn't fall for the FNC death brushes.
Hyli got caught a few times and those were his mistakes, but I'm not really sure if most of the engages that ended with his deaths were his calls. I think the whole team decided to use his head to bash a wall repeatedly.
On February 16 2020 05:37 DarkCore wrote: Is Rich even involved in the scene anymore? He seems so arrogant whenever I read his comments. Especially because I thought Jankos played quite well for parts of the game, everyone on G2 inted.
Hyli needs to step up hard, this is one of his worst int relapses ever. He looks so desperate to make an engage, and MAD didn't fall for the FNC death brushes.
Hyli got caught a few times and those were his mistakes, but I'm not really sure if most of the engages that ended with his deaths were his calls. I think the whole team decided to use his head to bash a wall repeatedly.
Idk about that, during last weeks Fnatic comms video (maybe the week before) a bunch of Hyli's inting would be him saying something, someone else on the team saying no, then him doing it anyway or someone saying "don't go in" and he'd throw a hook
Yeah, I think a lot of Hyli engages were his decision and not a team play. Most of his deaths did not look like 'for the team' to me, more like 'follow me team, I'm going in yolo'.
I think thats been a staple of Hyli's play forever. He's prone to a good Leroy Jenkins now and then. When he's in his best form, however, those work more often than they don't. And when he's in poor form, they don't workout as often.
the replay showing MSF vs SKT in 2017 was nice to see, they were so close to beating SKT in worlds, but to no avail, still a good effort and great games too
I'm starting to get sick of watching Orrn and Sett in every game, they have mindboggingly broken damage right now with no downsides. And watching teams just bank on the bonus stats that Orrn skews the intended balance of a lot of comps.
Similar story with Aatrox, Aphelios and MF, at least Senna seems to have dropped off a cliff.
Props to FNC for trying a really unorthodox top laner, and XL with the Vayne mid, even if it didn't work.
- G2 doesn't look very good right now. I don't think they're trying too hard, but imo the previous iteration of Caps mid and Perkz ADC looked better. - Rekkles had a great game tonight, looking solid this split so far. His Ezreal is always a treat, lots of people forget because they only talk about Teddy/Deft/Bang. - OG look great as well, MSF really is a surprise this split.
In his post game interview Jankos said that G2 shouldn't lose to a team like Misfits, and later he added that he thinks Fnatic and OG are good. I got the impression that he thinks Misfits overperformed and their results don't reflect their skill level.
MSF is on a solid win streak though, they've beaten G2 and OG, so that's a long overperformance. I think top 3 will be G2, OG and FNC, and RGE/MSF fighting it out for 4th.
On February 23 2020 04:56 Sent. wrote: Someone justify G2's Sylas pick to me. Perkz certainly didn't.
Perkz have been playing a lot of ARAMs where Sylas can 1v5.
More seriously I think G2 have been way too arrogant so far this season and they also need to accept that the roleswap was a really pretty fucking bad idea.
That OG comp, 3 tanks, an invun support and a long ranged ADC, poor syndra had no real target. Poppy pick was good imo, basically countered the entire OG lineup, too bad the Syndra came out too early.
If I was G2 and had to drive to the studio for a game like this, I'd just troll too.
I've been playing Zac support for a week or two in soloQ, even told my buddies last week that it was super legit. Good to see my galaxy brain strats in the LEC
It's similar with Garen and Darius, a lot of people still think they suck because noob champs, but they have highest top lane win rates in plat+ and hold high winrates into masters. Then you meet TF Statik Shiv PD Garen first time, and watch how he blows up your tank past the first item in lane, and kills squishies during his silence while tanking your entire team.
Dont think we'll see Darius in pro play, but Garen seems so wonky broken right now, he might be drafted against comps that can't deal with him properly.
Neither do the viewers, these teams suck. Like what is this SK draft, as soon as they locked everything in, you knew they wouldn't be able to execute their own win conditions.
All 3 teams can't qualify for playoffs, so they have little to lose in these games except their reputation. Funnily enough, they're big contributors to the rest of the LEC being so close, because they only win against each other (except S04 beating G2 lmao), so it's almost like the other team's are playing 6 games less this split. Every game not against bottom 3 is super important, a single win can elevate you over 2 or 3 other teams.
There was even a point where I thought SK might actually be able to out execute and win despite hitting min 30 with a comp that gets heavily outscaled. Then a sudden ace happened and the game was over lol.
Yeah, ward hopping/flashing for the Q execute has become a much more common thing to do. In similar note, I swear people are flashing with Gragas body slam twice as much in LEC than any other region, even if its not needed. All about hoping to get a wombo combo off before the enemy can react.
Rekkles smiling before the game, I feel we're in for a good game.
On March 08 2020 05:50 Redox wrote: Meh G2 lucky to win with their cancer comp.
FNC threw it all away with that random baron attempt. Outside of a teamfight gone horrible wrong I cant think of a more likely way to throw away the game than trying a 50-50 baron.
On March 08 2020 05:52 DarkCore wrote: Wtf, that was one weird asf game, can't decide if I really enjoyed it.
FNC comp couldn't really build GW on anyone, where is your god now LS.
Yeah. In the current meta with how strong healers are I dont think you can draft a comp without at least one champion that can easily apply GW.
On March 08 2020 05:52 DarkCore wrote: Wtf, that was one weird asf game, can't decide if I really enjoyed it.
FNC comp couldn't really build GW on anyone, where is your god now LS.
I remember watching a LCK game recently with LS praising someone for buying Titanic Hydra on Sett so he could add Executioner's Calling later for aoe grevious wounds. The game ended before he could do that though.
On March 08 2020 05:50 Redox wrote: Meh G2 lucky to win with their cancer comp.
FNC threw it all away with that random baron attempt. Outside of a teamfight gone horrible wrong I cant think of a more likely way to throw away the game than trying a 50-50 baron.
I rather think the baron call was ok, just failed execution + unlucky.
I think Fnc had to accelerate the game, given how it looked like later on vs Janna. And the Baron was not 50/50. Olaf flash was down, they just failed to kill the blast cone. And even if Olaf got in it should be better than 50/50 for Fnc since they could all hit baron together (which they tried and missed by a few hp) and Olaf had to sacrifice his life.
I mean if you have lets say a 70/30 chance to win the game should you take it at that point? Probably yes.
I feel people call the decision bad only because of the outcome. Had Fnc won the game there same people would think it was good.
On March 08 2020 05:50 Redox wrote: Meh G2 lucky to win with their cancer comp.
FNC threw it all away with that random baron attempt. Outside of a teamfight gone horrible wrong I cant think of a more likely way to throw away the game than trying a 50-50 baron.
I rather think the baron call was ok, just failed execution + unlucky.
I think Fnc had to accelerate the game, given how it looked like later on vs Janna. And the Baron was not 50/50. Olaf flash was down, they just failed to kill the blast cone. And even if Olaf got in it should be better than 50/50 for Fnc since they could all hit baron together (which they tried and missed by a few hp) and Olaf had to sacrifice his life.
I mean if you have lets say a 70/30 chance to win the game should you take it at that point? Probably yes.
I feel people call the decision bad only because of the outcome. Had Fnc won the game there same people would think it was good.
I'd call it a bad call regardless of the outcome. They had superior sidelane control with champions that can knockdown structures fast and lategame insurance in Kai'Sa and Yasuo both of which having execellent synergy with the rest of the team. Baron was a risk they really didn't have to take. Letting the blast cone stay alive was... Yeah.
FNC had IMO an equally strong lategame. Gragas can completely disable Akali in a teamfight and Kai'Sa is well Kai'Sa. With G2's only form of engage being Olaf running at them with Yuumi FNC could probably have won by just.... not fighting and playing PvE in sides if G2 had tried to force baron just 5-man piledive on the Janna.
What happens when a player disconnects/lags hard though. There is a reason big matches aren't played on the Internet, so much can go wrong and it doesn't look professional if the stream has to pause often. You basically can't buy garaunteed low ping Internet that's also stable, most providers just offer high download rates.
Wouldnt be surprised if some edgy kid tries to DDoS some part of the connection either.
Honestly these in houses have been hilarious. Not necessarily the best games, but certainly the best entertainment. idk how EU manage to collect so much high quality talent for LEC, but they blow all the other regions out of the water
On March 15 2020 12:30 chipmonklord17 wrote: Honestly these in houses have been hilarious. Not necessarily the best games, but certainly the best entertainment. idk how EU manage to collect so much high quality talent for LEC, but they blow all the other regions out of the water
I hope we see less lag than yesterday, no commentary was fine but the dropped frames and poor voice quality ruined an otherwise quite good set of games.
It's VIT, not surprising. LEC is very clearly divided into 3 groups this split, with the last 3 teams in the league being miles behind even XL. Crownshot must feel like shit watching Selfmade go to FNC while he has to suffer, expect another hammering in the next game.
Malph 40 Cs down and turret dead by 9:30 with no jungle presence, what was the point of this pick.
If G2 actually go down to the Gauntlet that would make for a super interesting competition, so go MAD. Also I would like to see G2 punished for their role swaps.
And its awesome to see MAD play with no fear whatsoever. The offline status helps maybe.
Also I would like to see G2 punished for their role swaps.
I want to see a team that shows they can reach World finals again, and they're not really showing it. Imo they're to a rougher start than last year, this role swap hasn't impressed.
Nah, I don't think that's it, obviously casting spells lowers his passive's CD but he: 1) could've thrown the W anywhere except right under him; 2) could've not activated the second W and just auto'ed while kiting away.
Panicking and mashing mindless buttons from a world class mid seems like the least likely scenario.
If you look at the play (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/582280082?t=5h44m06s), I think he used it to get some distance from Syndra but was unaware that the rest of the enemy team got the recall off so he just jumped to his death.
But if mic comms come out and he says something like "Not even close babyyyyy, let me style on these noobs", I'm gonna be disappointed.
I think he was trying to create space between himself and the opponents without realising they could also be coming from the base. Recalls half a second later and he'd have gotten another auto off.
This is the biggest 'Hyli giveth, Hyli taketh away' game I have seen in a while, trolling (no pun intended) and 'winning' in the same game is hilarious
It's still pretty punishing for OG, they came 3rd in the split but now have to slog through 3 series to possibly reach finals, and they have to beat G2. MAD came 4th and their surprise upset win means they have a straight shot at finals, although if they beat both G2 and FNC then they obviously deserve it.
Having G2 in the Loser's bracket means we're likely to get G2 vs FNC in the finals anyway, they just swapped around the path they usually follow.
On April 06 2020 00:50 DarkCore wrote: It's still pretty punishing for OG, they came 3rd in the split but now have to slog through 3 series to possibly reach finals, and they have to beat G2. MAD came 4th and their surprise upset win means they have a straight shot at finals, although if they beat both G2 and FNC then they obviously deserve it.
Having G2 in the Loser's bracket means we're likely to get G2 vs FNC in the finals anyway, they just swapped around the path they usually follow.
You probably right, but both Fnatic and G2 (especially G2) looked quite shaky and vulnerable in their series, so I wont be surprised if one of them is not at the grand final.
RGE struggled this season, but I still expected them to take this series because of the potential of their lineup. Totally not because I have a hate boner for Febi
I honestly wouldn't replace him either, he's a decent role player and idk who you're getting to upgrade. Honestly him and Mickey seemed like the best parts of the team from memory so I don't know what they're thinking about
EU has a great talent pool, there are lots of small names from the national and challenger scene they could pick up. Although the decision to drop those two is a bit of a surprise, since you can't just expect an inexperienced talent to fill their shoes instantly. So they either have someone in mind, or they're cutting costs by not spending much this year.
Anyone else expecting Fnatic to stomp? As in Mad Lions aren't actually that good and it was G2 playing much worse?
On April 11 2020 21:50 chipmonklord17 wrote: Is Expect still an import? He's been playing in EU for forever?
Take that with a grain of salt because I read it on reddit, but he's supposed to still be an import because he doesn't have any European citizenship and that's needed in LEC.
On April 13 2020 01:33 DarkCore wrote: Caps is such an inter...
But who cares, Aphelios with Zilean speed boost can 1vs5, does more damage than Azir and MF put together.
Zilean is literally the best champion for Perkz to be on, I think Dom brought it up in relation to TSM but its the same thing here, your inting teammates can't int if they have two lives
On April 13 2020 01:33 DarkCore wrote: Caps is such an inter...
But who cares, Aphelios with Zilean speed boost can 1vs5, does more damage than Azir and MF put together.
Zilean is literally the best champion for Perkz to be on, I think Dom brought it up in relation to TSM but its the same thing here, your inting teammates can't int if they have two lives
On April 13 2020 01:33 DarkCore wrote: Caps is such an inter...
But who cares, Aphelios with Zilean speed boost can 1vs5, does more damage than Azir and MF put together.
Zilean is literally the best champion for Perkz to be on, I think Dom brought it up in relation to TSM but its the same thing here, your inting teammates can't int if they have two lives
you underestimate the willpower of an inter
In pro it works, Zilean won't save you in SoloQ lol
Kog/Lulu seems like a really smart scaling pick versus Tahm if there's no diving jungler / roaming midlane. Really smart of G2 to save the Kog for last pick, especially after seeing no Elise and Veigar mid.
I think they need something like their old TF mid, something to reliably force things around the map. G2 is just better when allowed to play their game.
Bwipo staying near drake when Caps was soloing it and then diving him instead of joying the fight at baron would have been hilarious. Nemesis could have teleported to his control ward for the next level mindfuck dragon soul sneak.
Hell if Bwipo could 1v1 Caps they could probably have gotten both soul and baron.
On April 20 2020 02:35 chipmonklord17 wrote: Fnatic has played literally the same exact game against G2 for a fucking year
-Get lead -Play like shit -??? -Lose
There's the TSM bo5 buff and the FNC G2 debuff.
Its mystifying. Its literally the same game, regardless of champions, regardless of boX, regardless of junglers, its the same fucking game. Every. Fucking. Time
Also excellent double elimination bracket fucking the upper bracket team once again
On April 20 2020 02:35 chipmonklord17 wrote: Fnatic has played literally the same exact game against G2 for a fucking year
-Get lead -Play like shit -??? -Lose
There's the TSM bo5 buff and the FNC G2 debuff.
Its mystifying. Its literally the same game, regardless of champions, regardless of boX, regardless of junglers, its the same fucking game. Every. Fucking. Time
Also excellent double elimination bracket fucking the upper bracket team once again
To me it feels like FNC just completely disregard everything that has worked for them in the past against G2 because reasons. If they played without knowing it was G2 FNC would probably stomp them like FPX did with their similar playstyle. lol
I also dont understand the obsession with Miss Fortune, she really dont feel like a Rekkles ADC. He is stellar on utility or hardcarries and she's neither, half of the time all she does is just an ult and maybe 2 autos. I get that she's great at laning and decent at pushing people off baron with her ult but so often she just ends up doing so little in the mid to lategame teamfights that actually win games.
If it was single elimination we'd have "everyone" thinking Fnatic is much better than G2 and they clearly weren't.
Haha even Mikyx thinks it's ridiculous he got the MVP of the series.
And ye I don't get what Fnatic was trying to achieve with their drafts in the first 2 games. Even when they gained some leads they couldn't use those to get themselves further ahead.
Oh god, why am I not surprised. Every single time, FNC looks so desperate trying to force anything and everything in their series vs G2, no matter how impossible it is. Sprinkle in some tilt and inting, and you get the same series we've seen for like 2 years now.
I'm half convinced that FNC is just as good as G2, if not better: when they go to Worlds, I wouldn't be shocked if a team beat G2 and then lost to FNC. But the same won't happen in the direct confrontation.
I think this is definitely the right move for G2, Caps looked pretty bad all season and I don't think him playing fine in the finals erases that. It will be interesting to see them play in summer (God why is it so far away)
I completely agree, I don't see how they could have won worlds with the 2020 iteration against the best bot lanes on the planet. Maybe they'll pull the swap once or something in a cheese draft if they're against the ropes
Yeah, I think it'll be likely that they run mages in the bot lane and force very aggressive rotations earlier than other teams are used to. Having a mid lane mindset in the botlane seemed to make a lot of teams uncomfortable at Worlds, because Miky and Perkz weren't looking to make plays in lane, they'd coordinate and force fairly complex map rotations, especially in the mid game. Most other bot lanes kind of run around the map passively and plug gaps in the defense while farming safely.
I agree that Caps bot wasn't too good, but I think Perkz mid was also underwhelming. I'm curious how would Perkz look in a different team, would he be better as a mid or bot laner? He seems more interested in playing mid.
On May 07 2020 22:06 Sent. wrote: I agree that Caps bot wasn't too good, but I think Perkz mid was also underwhelming. I'm curious how would Perkz look in a different team, would he be better as a mid or bot laner? He seems more interested in playing mid.
Yeah I don't think Perkz it in mid was talked about too much, he was fine/good but nothing incredible
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