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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2015 16:49 GMT
#2401
Also, GodV has an annoyingly high tendency to do stupid shit later on in the game, which can't really be blamed on TBQ. His big plays are good and are what make him popular, but the tendency to randomly do stupid shit actually is a bigger deal in a practical sense.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 02 2015 16:49 GMT
#2402
On October 03 2015 01:48 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:48 Yorbon wrote:
I didn't really like the vi pick tbh. the synergy seem pretty low in a juggermaw comp. What would people say about gragas for peel potential (with the ult and the barrel fe)

What would you have picked, given you're not willing to FP elise?
I didn't see the draft ):
But if they had the chance to pick elise, that's a no brainer.
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
October 02 2015 16:51 GMT
#2403
Yurop looking damn fine, even H2K gave a fite yesterday.

YUROP!!
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 02 2015 16:52 GMT
#2404
On October 03 2015 01:49 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:48 Plexa wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Yorbon wrote:
I didn't really like the vi pick tbh. the synergy seem pretty low in a juggermaw comp. What would people say about gragas for peel potential (with the ult and the barrel fe)

What would you have picked, given you're not willing to FP elise?
I didn't see the draft ):
But if they had the chance to pick elise, that's a no brainer.

Bans: Varus, GP, Darius (LGD), Morde, Lee Sin, Rek'Sai (Origen)

LGD first picks lulu, fair enough imo. OG picks elise/kalista.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 02 2015 16:52 GMT
#2405
warlock looks like a warlock
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 02 2015 16:53 GMT
#2406
On October 03 2015 01:49 TheYango wrote:
Also, GodV has an annoyingly high tendency to do stupid shit later on in the game, which can't really be blamed on TBQ. His big plays are good and are what make him popular, but the tendency to randomly do stupid shit actually is a bigger deal in a practical sense.


But in fact, who would you replace him with?
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
October 02 2015 16:53 GMT
#2407
On October 03 2015 01:46 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:45 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:44 Kavas wrote:
Again, I'll say it again. GodV is fraud.

He's not bad but top 5 mid? LOL. He's slightly better than Nagne at best.

Calling GodV massively overrated is actually not a very new or insightful opinion. It's also probably right to some extent.

I mean, this is with considering he has TBQ as a jungler.

Meanwhile every other worldclass midlaner has a non-brain dead jungler.

Faker when rest of SKT was slumping.

For people that like to bring that TBQ is a shit jungler that drags GodV down, you need to remember he has Imp and Pyl (and occasionally Acorn/Flame) to carry both their asses.

Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 02 2015 16:53 GMT
#2408
Highly questionable Vi ult on support Annie. XPeke got a quadra afterwards.

Not a hate post, but I think China needs to get rid of all their Chinese players to far.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 16:54:54
October 02 2015 16:53 GMT
#2409
On October 03 2015 01:39 Azarkon wrote:
But actually, Pyl and GodV are considered two of the best players in China. The team only has one weakness; in the past that was enough to win as the other roles were able to out perform Western teams, but this year it looks as though native European players are at the same level/higher than Chinese/Korean players.

I mean, China's best Worlds performance was by a team that was weaker individually on 3/5 positions than their Western opponent. Individual skill basically played next to zero part in that team's ability to go as far as it did.
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
October 02 2015 16:53 GMT
#2410
On October 03 2015 01:52 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:49 Yorbon wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Plexa wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Yorbon wrote:
I didn't really like the vi pick tbh. the synergy seem pretty low in a juggermaw comp. What would people say about gragas for peel potential (with the ult and the barrel fe)

What would you have picked, given you're not willing to FP elise?
I didn't see the draft ):
But if they had the chance to pick elise, that's a no brainer.

Bans: Varus, GP, Darius (LGD), Morde, Lee Sin, Rek'Sai (Origen)

LGD first picks lulu, fair enough imo. OG picks elise/kalista.


Varus ban is silly. I doubt xpeke would of even played it
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
October 02 2015 16:54 GMT
#2411
On October 03 2015 01:48 1oo wrote:
Niels is so underrated, always plays so well. GG so happy for Origen, always believed they could do it.

Agreed, Niels is a beast
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 02 2015 16:54 GMT
#2412
On October 03 2015 01:53 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:52 Plexa wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:49 Yorbon wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Plexa wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Yorbon wrote:
I didn't really like the vi pick tbh. the synergy seem pretty low in a juggermaw comp. What would people say about gragas for peel potential (with the ult and the barrel fe)

What would you have picked, given you're not willing to FP elise?
I didn't see the draft ):
But if they had the chance to pick elise, that's a no brainer.

Bans: Varus, GP, Darius (LGD), Morde, Lee Sin, Rek'Sai (Origen)

LGD first picks lulu, fair enough imo. OG picks elise/kalista.


Varus ban is silly. I doubt xpeke would of even played it

Yeah that ban is *really* weird.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 02 2015 16:55 GMT
#2413
Well next game is a good opportunity to take a break from watching.
Off-season = best season
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 02 2015 16:55 GMT
#2414
godv always talks a lot of shit about scrim results and so on. not sure how much of that is legit
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 02 2015 16:55 GMT
#2415
On October 03 2015 01:53 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:39 Azarkon wrote:
But actually, Pyl and GodV are considered two of the best players in China. The team only has one weakness; in the past that was enough to win as the other roles were able to out perform Western teams, but this year it looks as though native European players are at the same level/higher than Chinese/Korean players.

I mean, China's best Worlds performance was by a team that was weaker individually on 3/5 positions than their Western opponent. Individual skill basically played next to zero part in that team's ability to go as far as it did.


RIP Tabe, you were too good for China
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 16:58:13
October 02 2015 16:55 GMT
#2416
Personally.. I would have had lulu top, and gotten a different mid. Any of the in-meta mid champs would have been good.

Veigar or Azir..both bring control to help protect the Kogmaw, and add a bit of separation.

I still dont think the malphite was a good pick.

IMO Tops are bit weak atm, and there are several VERY strong mids and I dont think its worth giving up the damage of the strong mid champs, for a supportive mid like Lulu.

The only time i like Lulu mid is if you are going to focus on having a strong top that NEEDS the utility spells from Lulu.

IMO she isnt worth it as a mid, just doesnt do enough damage IMO to make it worth putting her in the position usually responsible for 40+% of the damage.



Also, I think Origen should have used Alistar instead of Annie.. Kalista Alistar IMO would have had the same utility as annie stun, and would have brought some more tankiness to OG...who were against a single damage comp..the tankier you are the more and more pressure on the other teams 1 source of damage.

IDK I feel Alistar is better in every way while you have a Kalista..so if they arent picking Alistar with a Kalista i feel like they just dont like the champion, which imo is a point of concern for them.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 16:58:34
October 02 2015 16:56 GMT
#2417
On October 03 2015 01:52 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:49 Yorbon wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Plexa wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:48 Yorbon wrote:
I didn't really like the vi pick tbh. the synergy seem pretty low in a juggermaw comp. What would people say about gragas for peel potential (with the ult and the barrel fe)

What would you have picked, given you're not willing to FP elise?
I didn't see the draft ):
But if they had the chance to pick elise, that's a no brainer.

Bans: Varus, GP, Darius (LGD), Morde, Lee Sin, Rek'Sai (Origen)

LGD first picks lulu, fair enough imo. OG picks elise/kalista.
Hm, with these bans you're in a bind at blue side either way i guess. The varus ban puzzles me a bit. Is it to avoid his poke (given that you're going for juggermaw that is)?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2015 16:56 GMT
#2418
20:18 from EDG

Can SKT T1 beat it?!
liftlift > tsm
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 02 2015 16:56 GMT
#2419
On October 03 2015 01:55 MaestroSC wrote:
Personally.. I would have had lulu top, and gotten a different mid. Any of the in-meta mid champs would have been good.

Veigar or Azir..both bring control to help protect the Kogmaw, and add a bit of separation.

I still dont think the malphite was a good pick.

IMO Tops are bit weak atm, and there are several VERY strong mids and I dont think its worth giving up the damage of the strong mid champs, for a supportive mid like Lulu.

The only time i like Lulu mid is if you are going to focus on having a strong top that NEEDS the utility spells from Lulu.

IMO she isnt worth it as a mid, just doesnt do enough damage IMO to make it worth putting her in the position usually responsible for 40+% of the damage.

i agree. thought they had to draft something else given the bad matchup mid. but they were a bit too arrogant and wanted to facerush OG down.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 02 2015 16:58 GMT
#2420
Rumble??
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