[EU LCS] Summer Split 2015 Week 2

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krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

June 04 2015 18:34 GMT

#221

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Caiada

United States3052 Posts

June 04 2015 18:34 GMT

#222

I was hype for the Grag supp. Saint plays it all the time :^)

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

June 04 2015 18:35 GMT

#223

Oh god starting coin vs thresh/kalista.This could end veryyyyy badly

Caiada

United States3052 Posts

June 04 2015 18:36 GMT

#224

Why coin start

Also why advocate for Lulu mid in low damage comp

Why Grag top

This game is a mystery

foxmeep

Australia2333 Posts

June 04 2015 18:36 GMT

#225

On June 05 2015 03:34 krndandaman wrote:

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On June 05 2015 03:28 foxmeep wrote:

On June 05 2015 03:24 krndandaman wrote:

On June 05 2015 03:19 Slusher wrote:

On June 05 2015 03:18 krndandaman wrote:

On June 05 2015 03:11 foxmeep wrote:

On June 05 2015 03:00 krndandaman wrote:

On June 05 2015 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:

On June 05 2015 02:55 krndandaman wrote:

On June 05 2015 02:53 foxmeep wrote:
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I think TriF is the "happy medium" build path. Gives Ez strong poke, with a strong mid game power spike, but then building for AAs doesn't gimp him late game.

? the tear build is stronger than any AA reliant build for ezreal unless you go something retarded like shiv/ie.
triforce/zerker boots falls off harder compared to tear triforce lucidity.

Zerkers is just awful because of passive, you don't need it at all.
I swear, Rekkles, it has to be essence reaver, for sake of all lulz.

yeah it's terrible.

On June 05 2015 02:59 kongoline wrote:
nukeduck maxes W last on irelia Oo

fairly normal vs squishy ranged mages.
you just want the most burst possible and most dmg in short trades

no it isn't. one auto and one Q is already more damage with maxed W compared to maxed Q (120 true damage vs 120 phys). and you're going to auto at least more than once.

if you're not going to max W first or second, there is absolutely no reason to play Irelia. W has no scaling, it's useless at level 18.

maxed q does 60 more damage?

damage isn't even the main reason you max q though.
it lowers the cd of q from 14 to a whopping 6. you need that lower CD on Q as a midlaner and you can force WAY more favorable trades then you can with W max. W's on a 15s cd and doesn't scale with levels so you can only force those trades every 15s.

to be fair to him the conversation is over what to max 2nd so in lane trades aren't highly relevant, kinda, but less so than all ins

Q max still better in all-ins.
also he needs to stop being so defensive. instantly jumps to argue about irelia after giving up on justifying zerkers triforce ez

Zerkers does more DPS, Lucidity has more utility. I'm not going to bother doing the math for you.
And tell me, how does max Q do more damage than max W? Level 1 Q and Level 5 W = 120 more true damage with ONE auto attack. Level 5 Q and Level 1 W = 120 more PHYSICAL damage.

Tell me, what's better for "ALL IN" when you can't even cast Q twice in an ALL IN anyways. Max Q is purely for utility.

Stop spewing shit when you're wrong.

yeah more DPS when you're just standing still autoing LOL you sure pick ez to stand still and auto people!

also your math is wrong:
120+30 truedmg = q + auto with q max
20+120true dmg = q + auto with w max

so 100 more physical damage, 90 less true damage with the option to Q again in like 4-5s

stop being so defensive when you're wrong.

At the point you have 5 ranks in Q and 1 rank in W, you do not have a Frozen Heart, or any CDR for that matter. You have a 6 second CDR on Q.

Sorry, last time I checked all in doesn't mean 6 second trade.

Edit:
Rank 5 Q does 140. Rank 5 W does 75 true. My math is correct.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

June 04 2015 18:37 GMT

#226

Betsy is a 'supportive mid' ???

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

June 04 2015 18:38 GMT

#227

Guess Gambit know they'll get auto-relegated this split so just going to have fun.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

June 04 2015 18:38 GMT

#228

On June 05 2015 03:38 Numy wrote:
Guess Gambit know they'll get auto-relegated this split so just going to have fun.

WTF?

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

June 04 2015 18:38 GMT

#229

On June 05 2015 03:37 Ansibled wrote:
Betsy is a 'supportive mid' ???

He has to be since he is playing with forgiven and cabochard.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

June 04 2015 18:39 GMT

#230

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Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

June 04 2015 18:41 GMT

#231

On June 05 2015 03:38 Ansibled wrote:

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WTF?

Betsy,Diamond and Gosu are all bad. CW is better as a team and Giants at least have Pepi. Giving up the best jungler in the meta for a voli?? Only bads do that.

Radoq

1809 Posts

June 04 2015 18:41 GMT

#232

BY FAR THE WORST.

Caiada

United States3052 Posts

June 04 2015 18:41 GMT

#233

AP Grag top btw.

What fuckin season is this