EPTOn April 20 2015 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Hai was hardly the reason c9 lost there...
Hai was hardly the reason c9 lost there...
We're also ignoring that meteos had the better early ganking jungler and didn't gank forl ike 10 minutes
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DystopiaX
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We're also ignoring that meteos had the better early ganking jungler and didn't gank forl ike 10 minutes | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:26 IMoperator wrote: im gonna be really upset if tsm wins because of bjerg carrying them... How can you be mad that a champion designed to hard carry the late game ends up carrying hard in a late game  | ||
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AsnSensation
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Sent.
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TheHumanSensation
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IMoperator
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On April 20 2015 07:27 Plexa wrote: How can you be mad that a champion designed to hard carry the late game ends up carrying hard in a late game no i mean bjerg in general, not just him on kog. I feel like C9 beats TSM in 3 positions (support is about even, maybe slightly favored to lustboy) but the mid disparity might be way too much for c9 to win. kinda shows how much impact mid lane has compared to the other roles. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:26 IMoperator wrote: im gonna be really upset if tsm wins because of bjerg carrying them... Given your posting history you're going to be upset if TSM wins at all. On April 20 2015 07:29 IMoperator wrote: no i mean bjerg in general, not just him on kog. I feel like C9 beats TSM in 3 positions (support is about even, maybe slightly favored to lustboy) but the mid disparity might be way too much for c9 to win. kinda shows how much impact mid lane has compared to the other roles. Support is absolutely not even, Lustboy at this point is undeniably better than Lemon. Top lane is probably the only even MU, Meteos is reasonably better than Santorin and Sneaky is reasonably better than Wildturtle, but Bjergsen far outstrips Hai. I don't think it shows much at all about the midlane being a more impactful role. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote: We're also ignoring that meteos had the better early ganking jungler and didn't gank forl ike 10 minutes yeah, i thought this was far more problematic than anything. tbh, corki vs kog should be a equal matchup with no jungler intervention. it's not like kog auto loses that lane, he's always got an ability to farm the lane regardless. Short of hai hard shoving at level 1-3 to deny kog cs (which puts hai really vulnerable to early ganks), I don't see how bjerg loses that lane in CS. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
Yeah it hurt me to say that too. :-P | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:27 Plexa wrote: How can you be mad that a champion designed to hard carry the late game ends up carrying hard in a late game He wouldn't be happy with a TSM win even if IMoperator carried them. | ||
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IMoperator
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On April 20 2015 07:28 Sent. wrote: Hai's Corki did more damage than Lucian according to the graph posted in this thread few pages ago Not that surprising with the poke damage corki has vs. lucian. Sneaky did do more than turtle though, which shows how hard bjerg carried. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:29 wei2coolman wrote: yeah, i thought this was far more problematic than anything. tbh, corki vs kog should be a equal matchup with no jungler intervention. it's not like kog auto loses that lane, he's always got an ability to farm the lane regardless. Short of hai hard shoving at level 1-3 to deny kog cs (which puts hai really vulnerable to early ganks), I don't see how bjerg loses that lane in CS. yeah kog was basically farming under/near turret the whole time which was great for TSM | ||
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IMoperator
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On April 20 2015 07:29 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Given your posting history you're going to be upset if TSM wins at all. true, i hate their memelord fans. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:28 AsnSensation wrote: Yeah Blueside teams have to take a potential lastpick kog into account when chosing their teamcomp. Corki even with ignite doesn't really exert enough pressure to stop koggles from farming and put him behind. SK had the same problem vs UOL when he comfortably lastpicked it in 2 games and Fox went only even in lane which means it's essentially lost. I wondered if we might see a blue side cass next time c9 is blueside, since I figured she'd be pretty good vs koggles. Then I remembered this is Hai that we're talking about and he only has ~3 champs | ||
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Numy
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terialk
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
it's one thing to dislike tsm (like me), it's another to say that they're bad | ||
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Gorsameth
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:31 Numy wrote: Why are they picked Gragas over Sej. Wtf Meteos seems to value Gragas over Sej. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:31 Numy wrote: Why are they picked Gragas over Sej. Wtf Gragas has better early ganks than sej, a lot of NA junglers consider gragas to be better overall. | ||
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