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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 11 2015 23:24 GMT
#2621
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 11 2015 23:25 GMT
#2622
On April 12 2015 08:22 Slusher wrote:
they coulda mabye still won, but not getting the swap on top of the sion pick really fucked them.

giving away the corki pick is being overplayed imo, almost any damage mid would have worked.


Taking the Corki pick takes it away from Hai so it's a double win. I think Ezrael would've been ok as well but I don't know the corki vs Ezrael midlane but I'm guessing Fenix didn't like it cause there was definitely some confusion at the last Sion pick.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 11 2015 23:25 GMT
#2623
Honestly if I were TL and they left Lulu open I'd just go Juggermaw again, force them to keep beating it
In Inca we trust
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 11 2015 23:25 GMT
#2624
they could have last picked Karthus, and been advantaged, the corki pick is way overrated here
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2015 23:25 GMT
#2625
glad c9 is making series somewhat interesting.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 23:26:35
April 11 2015 23:26 GMT
#2626
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 11 2015 23:27 GMT
#2627
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best


yep they ran Vayne in a similar comp against Coast iirc, Trist isn't very good right now it could also work, jinx and twitch would be last resort type picks
In Inca we trust
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 11 2015 23:27 GMT
#2628
The biggest thing I think is they needed the 2v1 lanes.

Sion would beat Hec in farm in 1v2 lanes easily. Kog would not be 60+ creeps behind. Instead of losing 2 lanes and going even in one, they would have won 2 lanes and barely lost mid. They would have easily won i think.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 11 2015 23:27 GMT
#2629
On April 12 2015 08:25 Slusher wrote:
they could have last picked Karthus, and been advantaged, the corki pick is way overrated here


No. Like I said, the Ezrael/Corki mid is almost always picked in the best Juggermaw comps because it gives poke & mid game wave clear without exposing yourself in a fight. Karthus is a lot more dangerous and needs you to start putting shields/buffs on him which you never want to do on juggermaw.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 11 2015 23:28 GMT
#2630
why would you need to shield karthus lol
Carrilord has arrived.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 11 2015 23:29 GMT
#2631
On April 12 2015 08:28 Slusher wrote:
why would you need to shield karthus lol


you wouldn't, i think karthus would be an ok pick but as said above you really want something with poke/high mobility ie nidalee/ez/corki etc.
In Inca we trust
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 23:29 GMT
#2632
On April 12 2015 08:27 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best


yep they ran Vayne in a similar comp against Coast iirc, Trist isn't very good right now it could also work, jinx and twitch would be last resort type picks

idk in that scenario she has decent self peel, dat range, and they keep buffing her q/e interaction cooldowns. It's not theb est but honestly would probably be alright
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 11 2015 23:29 GMT
#2633
On April 12 2015 08:27 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best


yep they ran Vayne in a similar comp against Coast iirc, Trist isn't very good right now it could also work, jinx and twitch would be last resort type picks


Tristana is way better than Vayne, lomo.
But Piglet is mediocre on it.

TL just need to stick to their guns, find proper midlane early, probably even steal Corgi and be fine.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2634
On April 12 2015 08:27 iCanada wrote:
The biggest thing I think is they needed the 2v1 lanes.

Sion would beat Hec in farm in 1v2 lanes easily. Kog would not be 60+ creeps behind. Instead of losing 2 lanes and going even in one, they would have won 2 lanes and barely lost mid. They would have easily won i think.

yes
they could have done pb better but the non 2v1 hurt them far more than the sion pick
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2635
I feel like they brought Zion just to take subtle jabs at him. Please Zion tell us about coming back from down 0-2
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2636
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best


Trist isn't the hyper carry she used to be since her rework. She has a stronger mid game due to her E helping her chunk through turrets, but with her AA range nerf on the passive she isn't the late game threat she used to be.

Vayne wouldn't work either, her AA range is too short. I think the only hyper carry that's worth building around besides Kog'Maw is Jinx, and it's only as a last resort.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2637
On April 12 2015 08:28 Slusher wrote:
why would you need to shield karthus lol



Because if Karthus gets poked down before a fight, you auto lose against C9's comp.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2638
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best

Trist is SO bad in these comps because she can literally do nothing without 5 items. At least kogmaw is still strong at 2-3 items.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 23:31 GMT
#2639
On April 12 2015 08:30 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 08:24 Kinie wrote:
Rivington says that C9 wouldn't have taken Kog'Maw away from TL at the 2nd phase of the draft, I feel like that C9 would have, they had taken Hecarim, Sejuani and Nautilus at that point, C9 could've taken Kog'Maw and stuck Hai on an AP mage mid (like Orianna) for a Protect the Kog composition. And if C9 had done that, what would TL have taken for the carry role? Twitch or Jinx would've gotten blown up the moment C9 reached the back lane no matter what protection and shields you have for the ADC.

It's a good first step, but C9 still has a ways to go.

Trist

or vayne since pig likes it even tho i dont think it would have been the best


Trist isn't the hyper carry she used to be since her rework. She has a stronger mid game due to her E helping her chunk through turrets, but with her AA range nerf on the passive she isn't the late game threat she used to be.

Vayne wouldn't work either, her AA range is too short. I think the only hyper carry that's worth building around besides Kog'Maw is Jinx, and it's only as a last resort.

I agree Trist isn't as good but against that C9 comp she'd have done fine.

Like I said vayne is super shitty with it but TL ran juggervayne so I'm just saying it was an option they coulda looked at
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 11 2015 23:31 GMT
#2640
by the way, I'm not saying it's all p/b. TL definitely could've won this game. There was a bunch of opportunities but given the pressure, I can understand TL misplaying some of the moments.
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