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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
September 24 2014 20:59 GMT
#3941
On September 25 2014 05:58 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:56 skykh wrote:
There is someone from tl said Alliance is overhyped, All guys prediction c9 to win second place.


Guess full NA bench hypes up C9. Double even said all lanes are even. How is Hai vs Froggen even lol.

But he is 400 lp Challenger in KR feeding every game. ; )
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 24 2014 21:00 GMT
#3942
NJWS is a fraud and they'll be revealed for what they are

Zefa and Watch were on steroids and they are now back to being the random average shitters they've always been

Save will not be enough, and every single ggoong's champ has fallen out of meta (nidalee, LB, TF, Gragas, Kass), it doesn't take 4 games on Ahri/Zed to suddenly give him a good enough champion pool
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 21:03:53
September 24 2014 21:01 GMT
#3943
REST IN PEPPERONIES.
#thankGod

On September 25 2014 06:00 ManBaker wrote:
NJWS is a fraud and they'll be revealed for what they are

Zefa and Watch were on steroids and they are now back to being the random average shitters they've always been

Save will not be enough, and every single ggoong's champ has fallen out of meta (nidalee, LB, TF, Gragas, Kass), it doesn't take 4 games on Ahri/Zed to suddenly give him a good enough champion pool


Thank God that we have you, we all are going to live more.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 24 2014 21:02 GMT
#3944
Wait what is this.

Now I really want OMG to make it through.
SUNSFANNED
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
September 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#3945
Well Froggen does have a tendency to put more emphasis on powerfarming during lane phase than on getting kills/denying, though I suppose having Shook as a jungler has changed that a bit. I don't think Shook stacks up very well against Meteos however so it will be interesting to see how the matchup plays out - the 2v2 is probably pretty even while Froggen > Hai and Meteos > Shook (unless Shook goes full bedshitter mode, in which case [A] are fucked).
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 24 2014 22:43 GMT
#3946
On September 25 2014 05:59 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:58 Numy wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:56 skykh wrote:
There is someone from tl said Alliance is overhyped, All guys prediction c9 to win second place.


Guess full NA bench hypes up C9. Double even said all lanes are even. How is Hai vs Froggen even lol.

But he is 400 lp Challenger in KR feeding every game. ; )

At least he can get into Challenger.

To the actual matchup, I think C9 and Alliance are close, but I think Alliance has a slight edge.
Myrick
Profile Joined March 2013
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 00:31:12
September 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#3947
SSB and OMG for C and for D I think ALL then NJWS. I agree that Shield's bot lane isn't very good but I don't think Sneaky and Lemon are particularly good at crushing lane against weaker opponents. Save is going to body Balls so hard. I just can't see NJWS losing to C9 twice, and if Alliance shows up in top form they should take the group imo.
myricklol.blogspot.com League Analysis Blog
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 01:24 GMT
#3948
--- Nuked ---
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2014 01:30 GMT
#3949
that will be the group koreans drop a game, c9 or alliance can take a game off najin
I come in for the scraps
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 25 2014 01:30 GMT
#3950
On September 25 2014 10:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
that will be the group koreans drop a game, c9 or alliance can take a game off najin

I am sure they can
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
September 25 2014 01:42 GMT
#3951
The only way NJWS is dropping a game is if ggoong wants to play yasuo.
boomer hands
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 25 2014 02:54 GMT
#3952
Right. I have money on LMQ beating Fnatic head to head, don't let me down XWX.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Myrick
Profile Joined March 2013
26 Posts
September 25 2014 03:16 GMT
#3953
Predictions for first round of games?
OMG, NJWS, SSB, ALL, LMQ, C9. The Alliance C9 game is probably going to be the closest one. I'm interested to see how both teams have developed since their bootcamp. LMQ OMG may be close as well.
myricklol.blogspot.com League Analysis Blog
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 03:33:48
September 25 2014 03:33 GMT
#3954
Group C: Heart says LMQ/OMG, brain doesn't know what to think. Group D -- I hope Shield continues their form from regionals simply because I like seeing interesting comps (looking forward to the show they'll put on later today~) + Watch <3 but otherwise I don't care particularly for any of the teams in D.

Day 1 Predictions:
LMQ < OMG
C9 < ALL
FNC > LMQ
Kabum to suffer the same fate as DP and be eliminated 0-4.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 25 2014 04:22 GMT
#3955
On September 25 2014 11:54 Plexa wrote:
Right. I have money on LMQ beating Fnatic head to head, don't let me down XWX.



Wow @_@ that's bold because ... I don't even know if LMQ has a coach atm lol. Their management is a REAL clusterfuck from what I hear.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 25 2014 05:29 GMT
#3956
I cheer against Fnatic because they've fucked me over in every (the only two) fantasy leagues I've played

Which honestly means that they'll probably do pretty well since past results and season standings are about as good of a metric as we have for predicting future success that doesn't delve into unverifiable "expert" opinion (the other metric being a scoring based on number of koreans and chinese player h4h4h4)
Administrator@TL_Zess
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
September 25 2014 06:12 GMT
#3957
On September 25 2014 13:22 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 11:54 Plexa wrote:
Right. I have money on LMQ beating Fnatic head to head, don't let me down XWX.



Wow @_@ that's bold because ... I don't even know if LMQ has a coach atm lol. Their management is a REAL clusterfuck from what I hear.

Hopefully they've mastered the Royal art of shrugging off drama to continue performing well.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 25 2014 08:02 GMT
#3958
On September 25 2014 14:29 xes wrote:
I cheer against Fnatic because they've fucked me over in every (the only two) fantasy leagues I've played


last year's fantasy worlds I had Dade.......................
Carrilord has arrived.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 25 2014 08:06 GMT
#3959
I hope Zefa doesn't fk Najin, if his worst version shows they might drop some game(s)
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 25 2014 08:23 GMT
#3960
On September 25 2014 04:02 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 03:58 Numy wrote:
On September 25 2014 03:55 Takkara wrote:
On September 25 2014 03:50 miicah wrote:
On September 25 2014 02:04 Takkara wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:44 miicah wrote:
Now I kind of wish Riot would copy TI format and have one 16 man group, double round robin - top 8 make it to playoffs.


Each team plays 30 games? That's 240 games in the group stage alone. That's as many as you have in an entire LCS split. That would be some grueling endurance. Even in The Invitational, the teams only played 15 games in the group stage. Even assuming you split this over 2 weekends, each team would basically play 4 games a day. If you split it over 2 weeks, they'd still play 2 games a day, every day, for those two weeks.

... then the playoff bracket would start.


Each team plays 15 my bad.


Even then you end up with an imbalance where every team plays an extra game on either blue side or red side. Since blue side is at least 55-45 favored (see earlier post on this page) and as high as 72-28 favored, then it's a major advantage to have 8 blue side games instead of 7. Additionally, if you only have a single round-robin, if you get to play the hardest teams while on Blue Side, then you will have an inflated record over another team that played the hardest teams on Red Side.

I don't say this to unduly call you out. I say this to show that it's non-trivial to come up with a fair and feasible solution to how to organize Worlds.


Don't really get why you saying how "unfeasible" a format it is when he just said to copy the TI4 format so clearly it's not unfeasible.


The "fair" was about using the exact TI format, because of the imbalance of Red and Blue sides. The "feasible" was about his first suggestion to do a double round-robin (240 games).


Dire is considered imbalanced in Dota2 and yet no one complained about the imbalance at TI4.
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