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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
April 04 2014 11:47 GMT
#961
If we throwing accusion, we should accuse VULCUN THROWING FOR GAMBIT IN WORLDS
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
April 04 2014 11:47 GMT
#962
Look, I don't like something like this happening also, but can we just stop making matchfixing accusations?

This isn't the first time something like this happened in Korea, and every time they just joked about something like this happening UNTIL actual match fixing happened. Now people are desperate to find a team that matchfixes and kick'em out when something like this can actually happen without matchfixing.
ppp
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
April 04 2014 11:47 GMT
#963
The sad thing is that there's going to be a backlash regardless of how genuinely S is trying. S should beat Prime consistently in any circumstances, but to lose 2-0 when they are playing for a guaranteed playoff spot and Prime have literally nothing to play for... it's almost impossible not to suspect anything. Assuming innocence on the part of SKT, they would then be in the really uncomfortable position of either encouraging both teams to go for it and confirming the 'conspiracy', thus ramping up the backlash, or perhaps encouraging K to drop games to S, just to alleviate the accusations against them.

If we do assume that SKT are innocent, this is basically a nightmare scenario for them. I guess the lesson here is: NEVER piss off Kakao!
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
April 04 2014 11:48 GMT
#964
Also, just one more thing:

If you wanna accuse this, accuse every single team of losing every single match. Accuse every opponent of SKT T1 K of throwing their game to create a dramatic scenario. Because why not? We're just throwing accusations right here.
ppp
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9122 Posts
April 04 2014 11:48 GMT
#965
I hope this will be a wake-up call for OGN. People like comparing esports with sports all the time, well how about learning from the mistakes sports have made many years ago? Sister teams shouldn't be in the same group ever, even the idea of having the last 2 matches from a group at the same time is worth considering.
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
April 04 2014 11:49 GMT
#966
BAHHAHAHAHAHAH EASYHOON
hemeh
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
April 04 2014 11:49 GMT
#967
On April 04 2014 20:46 ManBaker wrote:
3-1 team who 2-0'd KTA getting 2-0'd by the 0-4, already eliminated team with nothing to gain

Sounds legit


more legit is marin giving fb 1v1 on shyv vs jax and jax has tele

or horo standing still for half a second during the drake fight
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 04 2014 11:53 GMT
#968
Kkyul giving 0 fucking and just diving onto the backline so ham
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
April 04 2014 11:54 GMT
#969
Matchfixing is the protoss is op of league. :\

I don't understand how SKT1 would gamble not having either team move on just to have "the better team" get through instead.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4994 Posts
April 04 2014 11:55 GMT
#970
Why did Caitlynn auto attack Jax when he had counterstrike up? Am I missing something?
FBH #1!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 04 2014 11:55 GMT
#971
On April 04 2014 20:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
Also, just one more thing:

If you wanna accuse this, accuse every single team of losing every single match. Accuse every opponent of SKT T1 K of throwing their game to create a dramatic scenario. Because why not? We're just throwing accusations right here.

Cmon don't get salty. I mean this all looks really bad, there is no denying that, as i said before it just doesn't matter if they really wanna throw or not, it just LOOKS that way regardless.
That is the point where OGN has to do something to make it impossible to happen imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#972
On April 04 2014 20:54 Sprouter wrote:
Matchfixing is the protoss is op of league. :\

I don't understand how SKT1 would gamble not having either team move on just to have "the better team" get through instead.


because when SKT K vs S incident isnt enough to de'q them so they wanna try to get away from it again, SKT can only blame K for losing to KTA otherwise the plan is perfect.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 11:58:30
April 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#973
I think prime just came in with very good prepared strats. The 4 man push the first game caught SKT offguard(haven't seen that before), and the jax pick I think is very smart against a shyv because without a misplay, jax simply won't die 1v1 to a shyv, and far, far outscales the shyv as well. Second game I think SKT simply didn't adapt very well, and picked a comp that will just lose if the jax makes it to a couple big items.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#974
THE GODS ARE SAVED.

Don't think it was matchfixing, gz to Prime.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
April 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#975
On April 04 2014 20:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
Also, just one more thing:

If you wanna accuse this, accuse every single team of losing every single match. Accuse every opponent of SKT T1 K of throwing their game to create a dramatic scenario. Because why not? We're just throwing accusations right here.

Cmon don't get salty. I mean this all looks really bad, there is no denying that, as i said before it just doesn't matter if they really wanna throw or not, it just LOOKS that way regardless.
That is the point where OGN has to do something to make it impossible to happen imo.

Tell me why I shouldn't get salty when people are making serious accusations without clear evidence, and try to witch hunt people out of the scene.
ppp
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
April 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#976
On April 04 2014 20:54 Sprouter wrote:
Matchfixing is the protoss is op of league. :\

I don't understand how SKT1 would gamble not having either team move on just to have "the better team" get through instead.


This is what I think too. Not to forget it would be better for SKT1 S to go through and rack up circuit points so the chance of SKT1 K & S both to go to worlds this year, K already has 400.

We didn't think S would 2-0 KTA and we didn't think KTA would 2-0 K so why is it weird for Prime to 2-0 S.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51461 Posts
April 04 2014 11:58 GMT
#977
Old B is like Homme 2.0 or something.
Commentator
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
April 04 2014 11:58 GMT
#978
The dream is still alive haha
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#979
SKT S are the Season 3 CLG of Korea. They have potential, and they play to their opponent's level. They put up tight matches with top level teams, where they somehow stall out a game, farm like crazy, and somehow win. With lower-class teams they just flop.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9122 Posts
April 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#980
On April 04 2014 20:54 Sprouter wrote:
Matchfixing is the protoss is op of league. :\

I don't understand how SKT1 would gamble not having either team move on just to have "the better team" get through instead.

This scenario is impossible, Prime cannot qualify so one of the SKT teams will.

Also this isn't even about actual matchfixing, it's about limiting incentives and suspicions of matchfixing with some very simple measures that most competitions have used for a crapload of years already.

Even if S gave their all today, at some point with this format whether it's next week or in 10 years, there will be a case where a team will drop a game because it's better for their sister team.
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