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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9202 Posts
February 21 2014 19:02 GMT
#541
On February 22 2014 04:00 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


Let's not rewrite history here. xPeke was pretty much the only EU mid laner you could expect to consistently beat or go even with Alex Ich. Plus, his World's performance up to when Royal Club crushed his hopes and dreams was impeccable.

You must have missed the memo, on LR a player is only as good as his last game
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
February 21 2014 19:02 GMT
#542
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
February 21 2014 19:02 GMT
#543
On February 22 2014 04:01 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:00 Nitan wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


Let's not rewrite history here. xPeke was pretty much the only EU mid laner you could expect to consistently beat or go even with Alex Ich. Plus, his World's performance up to when Royal Club crushed his hopes and dreams was impeccable.


Froggen??!

+Bjergsen and Nuke.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 21 2014 19:03 GMT
#544
On February 22 2014 04:02 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 03:58 AsnSensation wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?


Xpeke is actually shit, it was cyanide who made him look good. the fucking role swap destroy.... ups wrong region wrong team.

Nah, he was pretty good, Whitezz broke him


I'm pretty sure this was just a joke about XDG being stupid.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 21 2014 19:03 GMT
#545
Nothing changed, fnatic are still good players but they still didn't find their champions/playstyle this season. They keep picking random crap and losing, they could just play standard and do a lot better but it looks like soaz and xpeke are just bored.

I'm not sure they will have the willpower to start again as if they were a new team but that is what they should do right now.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:05:00
February 21 2014 19:04 GMT
#546
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.
Glorious SEA doto
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:06:49
February 21 2014 19:06 GMT
#547
There's also the fact that Xpeke played Kassadin who was ridiculous broken and had the free escapes. He also got MANHANDLED against Cornsalad way back as well.

On a somewhat related note, I'm also amused because my wife always thought xPeke looked like the average Spanish hick so she never liked him much. (She's from Spain herself)
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:09:38
February 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#548
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more), also back in S3 I remember being underwhelmed when he'd play Ori.

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:10:58
February 21 2014 19:10 GMT
#549
On February 22 2014 04:07 Anggroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more).

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.

I get the impression that pros have figured out something about jinx that makes her a massive risk to pick (Probably the lack of escapes that is often mentioned) so lucian/caitlyn are really about as carry as he seems to be allowed to do. Maybe rekkles should take a page out of candypanda's book and go "fuck it I wanna play vayne"
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 21 2014 19:10 GMT
#550
So, i came from hockey and Fnatic lost :DD
DREAM IS COMPLETED.
#ontheroadto14-14
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
February 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#551
On February 22 2014 04:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, i came from hockey and Fnatic lost :DD
DREAM IS COMPLETED.
#ontheroadto14-14


The way they've played the last 7 games it's looking more like 7:21 tbh, it's still Fnatic so I can see them turning it around but they've just looked awful the last few games (worse than their last bad streak where they booted nRated).
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#552
On February 22 2014 04:10 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:07 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more).

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.

I get the impression that pros have figured out something about jinx that makes her a massive risk to pick (Probably the lack of escapes that is often mentioned) so lucian/caitlyn are really about as carry as he seems to be allowed to do. Maybe rekkles should take a page out of candypanda's book and go "fuck it I wanna play vayne"

Vayne pick herself can be extremely problematic as well.
liftlift > tsm
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2257 Posts
February 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#553
Gambit in Pyjamas will get crushed again i think
Cogito, ergo Toss
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#554
On February 22 2014 04:10 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:07 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more).

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.

I get the impression that pros have figured out something about jinx that makes her a massive risk to pick (Probably the lack of escapes that is often mentioned) so lucian/caitlyn are really about as carry as he seems to be allowed to do. Maybe rekkles should take a page out of candypanda's book and go "fuck it I wanna play vayne"



There's no way Vayne could've done anything there for fnatic. Fnatic never took a fight where Vayne would've been able to just do her work.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
February 21 2014 19:13 GMT
#555
Popping in to dance on the grave of xPeke.

"xPeke is shit" -CSheep 2012-2014

0-6-0 the dream.
TranslatorBaa!
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
February 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#556
fnatic looks so weak, so derp...

ziggs good ap caster, holds mid turret forever, the mines and bombs too much wave clear

xpeke so mehhhh
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#557
On February 22 2014 04:13 Anggroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, i came from hockey and Fnatic lost :DD
DREAM IS COMPLETED.
#ontheroadto14-14


The way they've played the last 7 games it's looking more like 7:21 tbh, it's still Fnatic so I can see them turning it around but they've just looked awful the last few games (worse than their last bad streak where they booted nRated).


Nah, it's Fnatic.
I'm fan of CLG for 3,5 years, 7 games mean nothing :D
Believe me.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:17:01
February 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#558
On February 22 2014 04:13 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:10 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:07 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more).

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.

I get the impression that pros have figured out something about jinx that makes her a massive risk to pick (Probably the lack of escapes that is often mentioned) so lucian/caitlyn are really about as carry as he seems to be allowed to do. Maybe rekkles should take a page out of candypanda's book and go "fuck it I wanna play vayne"



There's no way Vayne could've done anything there for fnatic. Fnatic never took a fight where Vayne would've been able to just do her work.

I don't mean vayne that match, I mean it doesn't matter what rekkles picks or how he plays as the problem is his solos getting shit on and being useless but idk it feels more suited to their strengths that they have to give rekkles harder carries than lucian.
But really rekkles feeling a bit constrained on more mid-game oriented carries is the least of their problems when soaz/xpeke are looking dazed and confused.
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 21 2014 19:17 GMT
#559
Why do people still think Rekkles is the best, we need more games were Candy, Creaton and Rallez carry I suppose.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 19:18:40
February 21 2014 19:17 GMT
#560
On February 22 2014 04:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:13 KissBlade wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:10 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:07 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:04 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:02 Anggroth wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
On February 22 2014 03:55 wei2coolman wrote:
MandatoryPeke, amirite?

I can't believe people think xpeke is as good as alex_ich and overpow. While this run will probably deny xpeke mid at all-stars they'd better not deny rekkles the all-star.

To be fair, he was really strong in s3, but I was never really convinced by him though.


The switch away from the assassin meta seems to have completely shut him down, when you think of his great play in S3 it was Zed/Kass/Fizz/Ahri, now they're not as strong and he hasn't adapted to the new picks.

I'm not entirely sure if the caster meta really crippled him, I mean he's a long time player he's been in the non-assassin meta where he mostly performed fine. Idk what exactly happened to xpeke so I just go with whit3zz broke him.
Nukeduck is more of a player that suffered from meta shifts, with less fizz/ahri/zeds he looks measurably weaker than before.


True, and Whit3zz did seem to destroy something in Peke, but it's just none of his games with the casters have been good (I remember a game against Gambit at IEM Cologne when he had a massively farmed Ziggs, but just did nothing but farm more).

The one thing I'd really like to see Fnatic change though is to give Rekkles a late game carry, so many Lucian picks that just do nothing, at least give him something that can actually carry a game.

I get the impression that pros have figured out something about jinx that makes her a massive risk to pick (Probably the lack of escapes that is often mentioned) so lucian/caitlyn are really about as carry as he seems to be allowed to do. Maybe rekkles should take a page out of candypanda's book and go "fuck it I wanna play vayne"



There's no way Vayne could've done anything there for fnatic. Fnatic never took a fight where Vayne would've been able to just do her work.

I don't mean vayne that match, I mean it doesn't matter what rekkles picks or how he plays as the problem is his solos getting shit on and being useless but idk it feels more suited to their strengths that they have to give rekkles harder carries than lucian.
But really rekkles feeling a bit constrained on more mid-game oriented carries is the least of their problems when soaz/xpeke are looking dazed and confused.

The problem is ADC's in such a shit spot. Can't do anything when your midlaner dies like 5 times in lane, and the enemy midlaner is fed. No ADC pick from Rekkles will change this fact.
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