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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 01 2014 21:06 GMT
#181
On February 02 2014 06:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?

:3

Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.


He didn't.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 01 2014 21:06 GMT
#182
On February 02 2014 06:05 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?


Because they'd get huge leads and throw them.

They've solved the problem since now they never get a lead and thus cannot throw.

They still throwbargainsed vs dignitas so that wasn't even fixed.
Glorious SEA doto
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#183
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again

Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
February 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#184
On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee...

you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.


They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?

yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.

I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.
washed
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#185
xpecials immune because he was patient zero, huehuehue
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#186
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again


RIP benny and bloodwater.
Glorious SEA doto
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#187
Wow he looks like shit :D
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#188
On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again


RIP benny and bloodwater.


RIP everyone lol
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#189
On February 02 2014 06:07 Vlanitak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee...

you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.


They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?

yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.

I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.


Yea C9 just know how to play as a team I feel. No matter what happens they will trust in their teamwork and try get some advantage.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#190
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again



Oh god, now I'm picturing Xmithie getting benched for Robertxlee.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 21:09:53
February 01 2014 21:09 GMT
#191
Prediction: XDG announces removal of xmithie and mancloud, zoonie to mid and kenma will become the new ADC. Might as well go down in a blaze of hilarity.
On February 02 2014 06:08 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again



Oh god, now I'm picturing Xmithie getting benched for Robertxlee.

I wouldn't even be mad at that point, I'd just collapse in laughter.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 01 2014 21:09 GMT
#192
TOO always confuses me with how small his mouth is.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 01 2014 21:10 GMT
#193
On February 02 2014 06:08 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again


RIP benny and bloodwater.


RIP everyone lol


This would be the saddest thing. They had so much promise after making worlds and actually acquitting themselves pretty well last year.

Also LOL at OddOne basically saying "yeah... so Zuna was way out of position and sucks".
SUNSFANNED
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 01 2014 21:10 GMT
#194
Gonna stop by real quick to say TSM TSM TSM
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 21:13:24
February 01 2014 21:11 GMT
#195
On February 02 2014 06:10 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:08 Disengaged wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.


Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again


RIP benny and bloodwater.


RIP everyone lol


This would be the saddest thing. They had so much promise after making worlds and actually acquitting themselves pretty well last year.

Also LOL at OddOne basically saying "yeah... so Zuna was way out of position and sucks".

XDG actually looked their best post worlds vs fucking gambit with that old roster.
All I'm getting from that vid is #FreeJintae
Glorious SEA doto
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 01 2014 21:11 GMT
#196
Xpecial is immune because he clearly is the healthiest living guy in the team for years.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 01 2014 21:14 GMT
#197
Is this whole vid just bad mouthing Jintae?
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 01 2014 21:14 GMT
#198
So why has Coast sucked since Shiphtur joined then, if he's supposed to be such a god?
SUNSFANNED
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 01 2014 21:14 GMT
#199
"We need to always be ahead of the meta"
From the guy that still picks varus
Glorious SEA doto
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 01 2014 21:15 GMT
#200
On February 02 2014 06:07 Vlanitak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee...

you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.


They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?

yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.

I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.

I played a different game competitively at a high level, and I think very similar concepts apply to league, where aggressive teams that hold the prerogative will be favored to win because they dictate the pace of the game and force the other team to react to their actions. The aggressor advantage in league is even more pronounced in league though, because of the latency in reaction introduced if a team doesn't have vision of the aggressive team.
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