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On February 02 2014 06:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?
:3
Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.
He didn't.
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On February 02 2014 06:05 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ? Because they'd get huge leads and throw them. They've solved the problem since now they never get a lead and thus cannot throw.
They still throwbargainsed vs dignitas so that wasn't even fixed.
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On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.
Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again
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On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee... you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game. They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game? yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.
I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.
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xpecials immune because he was patient zero, huehuehue
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On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again
RIP benny and bloodwater.
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Wow he looks like shit :D
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On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again RIP benny and bloodwater.
RIP everyone lol
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On February 02 2014 06:07 Vlanitak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee... you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game. They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game? yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game. I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.
Yea C9 just know how to play as a team I feel. No matter what happens they will trust in their teamwork and try get some advantage.
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On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again
Oh god, now I'm picturing Xmithie getting benched for Robertxlee.
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Prediction: XDG announces removal of xmithie and mancloud, zoonie to mid and kenma will become the new ADC. Might as well go down in a blaze of hilarity.
On February 02 2014 06:08 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again Oh god, now I'm picturing Xmithie getting benched for Robertxlee.
I wouldn't even be mad at that point, I'd just collapse in laughter.
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TOO always confuses me with how small his mouth is.
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On February 02 2014 06:08 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again RIP benny and bloodwater. RIP everyone lol
This would be the saddest thing. They had so much promise after making worlds and actually acquitting themselves pretty well last year.
Also LOL at OddOne basically saying "yeah... so Zuna was way out of position and sucks".
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Gonna stop by real quick to say TSM TSM TSM
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On February 02 2014 06:10 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:08 Disengaged wrote:On February 02 2014 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On February 02 2014 06:07 Disengaged wrote:On February 02 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can. They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact. Inb4 they kick someone that isn't Zuna again RIP benny and bloodwater. RIP everyone lol This would be the saddest thing. They had so much promise after making worlds and actually acquitting themselves pretty well last year. Also LOL at OddOne basically saying "yeah... so Zuna was way out of position and sucks".
XDG actually looked their best post worlds vs fucking gambit with that old roster.
All I'm getting from that vid is #FreeJintae
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Xpecial is immune because he clearly is the healthiest living guy in the team for years.
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Is this whole vid just bad mouthing Jintae?
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So why has Coast sucked since Shiphtur joined then, if he's supposed to be such a god?
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"We need to always be ahead of the meta"
From the guy that still picks varus
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On February 02 2014 06:07 Vlanitak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:04 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee... you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game. They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game? yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game. I admire C9 for this exact thing, if you look at our game vs them you could see how hard they were fighting back by inching their way onto objectives and fighting for things most teams would give up on. They might not be world class (being real no NALCS team is atm) but they arent far off either.
I played a different game competitively at a high level, and I think very similar concepts apply to league, where aggressive teams that hold the prerogative will be favored to win because they dictate the pace of the game and force the other team to react to their actions. The aggressor advantage in league is even more pronounced in league though, because of the latency in reaction introduced if a team doesn't have vision of the aggressive team.
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