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On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee... you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.
They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?
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On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.
Like I said they need to put Xmithie back in the jungle and then finding an actual good competent ADC that isn't Zuna but I feel they are too stubborn to do that.
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On February 02 2014 06:00 bokchoi wrote:
awful game.. jesus xdg looks so lost
Ye while benny just generally holds his own mancloud's synergy with zoonie + him playing worse than he was is really just inhibiting everything. Bloodwater can keep bot lane and in order and benny rarely loses top (Inversely he rarely wins) so XDG was heavily on xmithie and mancloud snowballing to be the playmakers with back up from the other three if they don't feed to snowball for wins. But with zoonie jungle and mancloud's sub-par performances they can't do that agian.
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Lol I might actually become a real XDG antifan now
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On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team.
I mean, I agree with that, but that set of 5 players made it to worlds (which blows my mind right now).
They basically neutered the strongest part of their game for no reason.
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I can hear Kenma all the way over at our house...
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On February 02 2014 06:02 Vlanitak wrote:
I can hear Kenma all the way over at our house...
LOL. Probably broken tv screens and computer guts everywhere.
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Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?
:3
Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.
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By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
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Zuna's positioning is making my eyes bleed.
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On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
They feel it'd be "better" for the team.
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On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee... you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game. They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?
yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.
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On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
A very dangerous combination of nepotism and CLG (black).
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On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
Zuna wasn't cutting it at AD so his brother made another slot for him on the team by swapping one of the best junglers in NA.
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On February 02 2014 06:04 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ? They feel it'd be "better" for the team.
To be fair if they wanted to go beyond pretty much being where dignitas was in S2, a cut below the very top then changes were required.
So they went about it in the most absolutely awful way.
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On February 02 2014 06:02 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team. I mean, I agree with that, but that set of 5 players made it to worlds (which blows my mind right now). They basically neutered the strongest part of their game for no reason.
Yeah, but it was really in spite of Zuna, and the fact that NA kinda blows, It just sucks to watch, cuz I really like Mancloud, and it's painful to watch him do this badly :s
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On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.
Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team. Zuna shouldn't be on the team.
I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.
They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.
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On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
Because they'd get huge leads and throw them.
They've solved the problem since now they never get a lead and thus cannot throw.
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On February 02 2014 06:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?
:3
Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.
Mancloud didn't get stomped, but he lost in terms of cs which I'd expect from nid vs riven, and bjergsen scored a pretty nice solo kill on him. Honestly, there weren't really any big plays in that game at all.
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