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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 21:02:05
February 01 2014 21:00 GMT
#161
On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee...

you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.


They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 01 2014 21:01 GMT
#162
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Like I said they need to put Xmithie back in the jungle and then finding an actual good competent ADC that isn't Zuna but I feel they are too stubborn to do that.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 01 2014 21:01 GMT
#163
complete outclass
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 01 2014 21:01 GMT
#164
On February 02 2014 06:00 bokchoi wrote:
awful game.. jesus xdg looks so lost

Ye while benny just generally holds his own mancloud's synergy with zoonie + him playing worse than he was is really just inhibiting everything. Bloodwater can keep bot lane and in order and benny rarely loses top (Inversely he rarely wins) so XDG was heavily on xmithie and mancloud snowballing to be the playmakers with back up from the other three if they don't feed to snowball for wins. But with zoonie jungle and mancloud's sub-par performances they can't do that agian.
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 01 2014 21:01 GMT
#165
Lol I might actually become a real XDG antifan now
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 01 2014 21:02 GMT
#166
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, I agree with that, but that set of 5 players made it to worlds (which blows my mind right now).

They basically neutered the strongest part of their game for no reason.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
February 01 2014 21:02 GMT
#167
I can hear Kenma all the way over at our house...
washed
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 01 2014 21:03 GMT
#168
On February 02 2014 06:02 Vlanitak wrote:
I can hear Kenma all the way over at our house...

LOL. Probably broken tv screens and computer guts everywhere.
liftlift > tsm
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 01 2014 21:03 GMT
#169
Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?

:3

Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 01 2014 21:03 GMT
#170
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
February 01 2014 21:04 GMT
#171
Zuna's positioning is making my eyes bleed.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 01 2014 21:04 GMT
#172
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?


They feel it'd be "better" for the team.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 01 2014 21:04 GMT
#173
On February 02 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 05:59 Shiznick wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:57 RouaF wrote:
xdg is not doing anything, they are just waiting to lose, they don't even try to poke with a nidalee...

you can see quite a few na teams just completely shut down if they lose the early game. it happened a lot to clg in summer split, it happened to curse against clg, and it happened to xdg this game. XDG did the right thing by sneaking baron, but I think they should have taken the risk to make a play with it, since they weren't going to get a better opportunity by just waiting out the game.


They just had to try something way earlier. Even if it fails horribly it's better than just sitting for 25 minutes doing nothing. In fact was there even one shen ulti that game?

yeah, I agree. I think that is c9's biggest boon vs other NA teams, they are willing to engage dragon fights and trust in their mechanics/coordination to beat out a slightly ahead opponent to turn the game around. Other teams just think "well we're too behind to fight right now, just wait until late game," and then they just lose every objective and lose the game.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 01 2014 21:04 GMT
#174
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?


A very dangerous combination of nepotism and CLG (black).
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 01 2014 21:04 GMT
#175
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?

Zuna wasn't cutting it at AD so his brother made another slot for him on the team by swapping one of the best junglers in NA.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 01 2014 21:05 GMT
#176
On February 02 2014 06:04 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?


They feel it'd be "better" for the team.

To be fair if they wanted to go beyond pretty much being where dignitas was in S2, a cut below the very top then changes were required.
So they went about it in the most absolutely awful way.
Glorious SEA doto
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
February 01 2014 21:05 GMT
#177
On February 02 2014 06:02 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, I agree with that, but that set of 5 players made it to worlds (which blows my mind right now).

They basically neutered the strongest part of their game for no reason.


Yeah, but it was really in spite of Zuna, and the fact that NA kinda blows, It just sucks to watch, cuz I really like Mancloud, and it's painful to watch him do this badly :s
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 01 2014 21:05 GMT
#178
On February 02 2014 06:00 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 05:59 Swords wrote:
Man, that was straight up boring.

Zuna really shouldn't be jungling for this team.


Zuna shouldn't be on the team.


I mean, they have Xmithie who can jungle better than Zuna AND play ADC better than Zuna, and they have ScubaChris and RobertXLee on the bench, both of whom can play their respective positions better than Zuna can.

They can't even claim "we aren't kicking him because we're a team of friends" like Dignitas did with KiwiKid, because they kicked Muffinqt to the curb the instant a better support became available in BloodWater. They have no excuse anymore to keep him on the team, and hopefully how they've started this split will open their eyes to that fact.
SUNSFANNED
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 01 2014 21:05 GMT
#179
On February 02 2014 06:03 RouaF wrote:
By the way why did the jungler and the ad swap position ? They finished top 3 last season and even went to worlds (lol). Now they are last I think ?


Because they'd get huge leads and throw them.

They've solved the problem since now they never get a lead and thus cannot throw.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 01 2014 21:06 GMT
#180
On February 02 2014 06:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
Did Bjerg stomp Mancloud?

:3

Didn't see the game, but I've always thought Mancloud was a bit overrated in NA LCS. Xmithie carrying him too often.

Mancloud didn't get stomped, but he lost in terms of cs which I'd expect from nid vs riven, and bjergsen scored a pretty nice solo kill on him. Honestly, there weren't really any big plays in that game at all.
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