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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 17 2014 15:59 GMT
#61
On January 17 2014 21:33 JonGalt wrote:
I don't think dig would lose their fanbase if scarra shifted to a coaching/analyst position. it would actually probably allow him to stream more.

and I scoff at all ye TSM haters. we are obviously a 4-0 MAYYYYYBE 3-1 this week. TSM TSM TSM

Sing it soul brotha
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 17 2014 16:05 GMT
#62
Coast will be in top-4, no doubt. They had big difficulties in ban/pick phase last split, and Alex Penn will help them in fixing it. Remember, how did Cloud9 go for 25-3. 3/4 of those games were won in ban/pick phase basically.

C9, TSM are top-2 for sure.
Dignitas and Curse - bottom-2.
If CLG don't go 0-4 this week, i probably will have nuff courage to put them in top-4 with Coast, if 0-4, then 5th place.
XDG will need time, EG can struggle as well if Pobelter is going to be forced out of his comfort zone.

Something like that.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 17 2014 16:09 GMT
#63
On January 17 2014 23:45 oneofthem wrote:
dignitas is literally a clown show. reliant on selling their personality and fully embracing comfortable mediocrity of the na scene

can't last forever.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 17 2014 16:28 GMT
#64
Well maybe people should wait with hating on a team until they have actually played.
Off-season = best season
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 16:54:54
January 17 2014 16:54 GMT
#65
I doubt Dig will even be in the LCS next season
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#66
SO, if anyone would like to actually LR Day 1 and/or keep track of the picks, bans, and polls today? If so, PM me and you'll have my eternal gratitude.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
January 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#67
I could see it shaping like this:

Top 2: C9, TSM
Mid 3: XDG, EG, CLG
Bot 3: Crs, Dig, Coast
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 17:07:07
January 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#68
One thing I hope happens is that EG gets shit on or innox/pobelter carry 2v5 because now that alliance are sucking people are getting this retarded idea that snoopeh/yolopete are actually good.
On January 18 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
SO, if anyone would like to actually LR Day 1 and/or keep track of the picks, bans, and polls today? If so, PM me and you'll have my eternal gratitude.

I can do picks til I collapse. I don't think I could LR though.
Glorious SEA doto
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 17 2014 17:15 GMT
#69
On January 18 2014 02:04 Fusilero wrote:
One thing I hope happens is that EG gets shit on or innox/pobelter carry 2v5 because now that alliance are sucking people are getting this retarded idea that snoopeh/yolopete are actually good.
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
SO, if anyone would like to actually LR Day 1 and/or keep track of the picks, bans, and polls today? If so, PM me and you'll have my eternal gratitude.

I can do picks til I collapse. I don't think I could LR though.


Don't feel like you have to. P/Bs and polls are way more important, and feel free to pick whichever one you want.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2014 17:19 GMT
#70
So who would the biggest favorites be entering this? I'm not that familiar with the NA scene recently. Cloud 9 still way above everyone? Maybe TSM would be the second favorite?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 17 2014 17:22 GMT
#71
On January 18 2014 02:19 Shikyo wrote:
So who would the biggest favorites be entering this? I'm not that familiar with the NA scene recently. Cloud 9 still way above everyone? Maybe TSM would be the second favorite?

The general consensus is bjergsen powered TSM and C9 are the overwhelming favourites, CLG/CST/XDG/EG will be slapfighting for the middle rankings and dig/crs are dead meat.
Glorious SEA doto
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 17 2014 17:22 GMT
#72
i can't wait any longer, plz unleash the hotshotgg already
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
January 17 2014 17:31 GMT
#73
On January 18 2014 02:19 Shikyo wrote:
So who would the biggest favorites be entering this? I'm not that familiar with the NA scene recently. Cloud 9 still way above everyone? Maybe TSM would be the second favorite?


Most likely. Bjergsen is an upgrade for TSM skillwise and their botlane is still scary. We can't be sure how TSM's shotcalling works now.

Cloud 9 looked strong against Fnatic. The only question is how S4 effects Meteos' jungle and maybe if Balls can be efficient in the tank meta.

CLG is a mess.

Zuna and Xmithie switched positions at ex-Vulcun. They should have gotten rid of Zuna and pick up RobertxLee or another competent adc. They are expected to start slowly.

Coast should climb up this split.

EG will be shaky. Anything from 3rd to 8th is possible.

Dig is stupid.

Curse improved at top and jungle. Voyboy hasn't looked well at mid so far. Cop's still on the team. Overall close to EG I guess.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2014 17:41 GMT
#74
Hmm I guess my assumptions were about correct then in top 2 and bottom 2, although I still don't have a clear picture for the middle 4.

Well, we'll see! For some reason I always enjoy watching NA LCS far more than EU LCS even though I'm European... Somehow it's a lot more entertaining.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 17 2014 17:47 GMT
#75
I can try and put my negativity in my pocket to do some LRing, and the picks/bans. I don't think I'll do all the games though, it ends at something like 4 AM for me (according to schedule, so you can add 2 hours) and I need sleep.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 17 2014 17:53 GMT
#76
Imagine what will happen if Dignitas suddenly goes 4-0.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Aevera
Profile Joined March 2012
United States105 Posts
January 17 2014 17:56 GMT
#77
On January 18 2014 02:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Imagine what will happen if Dignitas suddenly goes 4-0.


a meteor probably smashes into the lcs studio just before they kill the nexus for the 4th win

I'm just hoping Dig and CLG can stay out of relegation, but it's really hard to keep believing that a lot of the time
Arev#1139 / LoL: Arev
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 17 2014 17:57 GMT
#78
Predictions/Thoughts

I'm still rooting for Dig (I'm a masochist) even though I don't expect them to do that much. They really need a revamp though, and maybe a bad split will make them realize it.

C9 will still be strong. One of their biggest strengths seems to be adapting to the metagame, plus they know how to teamfight which gives them an advantage over almost every NA team.

The decision to switch Zuna and Xmithie really blows my mind. You don't try to fix your problems (late-game shotcalling) by taking away your strengths (Xmithie's early game and synergy with the laners). Half of the time XGDD had a lead to throw BECAUSE Xmithie got the lanes fed. It's just stupid, they're not putting their players in a position to succeed, which is a big no-no in any sport.

Coast should be pretty good this split so long as Zion can be convinced to play Mundo/Shyv/etc instead of just split pushing on Riven/Trynd/etc. I didn't see much of their challenger games, but I imagine he's up to date with the tank meta by now.

EG clearly inherited the brains of EUEG. If Pobelter and Innox come as advertised I think they'll be right in the middle of the pack, if not near the top. I haven't seen enough of them playing to really know how they'll compete with C9 or TSM.

I can see TSM winning this split depending on how their teamfighting and communication evolves. At worlds they got picked apart after teams realized they could camp Dyrus and have their midlaner play safe since Oddone was constantly babysitting Regi. Bjergsen needs no babysitting, and is strong enough to draw jungle pressure mid. With every lane looking pretty powerful it's just going to come down to rotations, objectives, and teamfights. If TSM can avoid being Alliance they should be in a great position.

I don't think Crs will benefit that much from having Voy in mid. Maybe last season when assassins were huge it would've been a good idea, but he hasn't looked to strong there so far. Quas is clearly a great player, but I'm not convinced they're better off with him in top rather than mid - he did play Mundo a bunch before the preseason patch though. IWD should be an upgrade from Saint, but Zekent is a downgrade from Edward.

CLG is a mystery to me. With Hotshot mid, and Link jungle for superweek I don't really expect them to do too much. Still, that team is so weird I can see them going 4-0 this week, getting Dexter back and then losing for the rest of the season.
(In all seriousness though, it depends on if Montecristo has beaten the concept of fighting for objectives into them yet.)
Aevera
Profile Joined March 2012
United States105 Posts
January 17 2014 17:58 GMT
#79
On January 18 2014 02:57 Swords wrote:
CLG is a mystery to me. With Hotshot mid, and Link jungle for superweek I don't really expect them to do too much. Still, that team is so weird I can see them going 4-0 this week, getting Dexter back and then losing for the rest of the season.
(In all seriousness though, it depends on if Montecristo has beaten the concept of fighting for objectives into them yet.)


My gut feeling is they will be average right now, play well while Monte is in NA, then go back to average or even get worse than that after he leaves again for Korea.
Arev#1139 / LoL: Arev
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 17 2014 18:00 GMT
#80
On January 18 2014 02:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Imagine what will happen if Dignitas suddenly goes 4-0.


They were just hiding all their secret strats at BotA. Scarra on Heimer mid. Quinn/Swain botlane.
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