EPTPutting a team in a situation where they are directly in the playoffs but they lose everything if they lose any matches from there on is retarded imo.
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Two things as public notice: 1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] + Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis! No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum. 2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future. I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat. Enjoy the games~ -Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120 | ||
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
Putting a team in a situation where they are directly in the playoffs but they lose everything if they lose any matches from there on is retarded imo. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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skykh
3006 Posts
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
The EU scene is far healthier with pretty much everyone except MYM looking very close in strength this last split (and MYM weren't a complete walkover either). Similarly Korea has a ton of strong teams and that helps everyone get better (you learn more from losing than from winning and weak players/teams get replaced by better ones). I really hope NA can develop more teams on the level of C9. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On September 24 2013 18:46 Goragoth wrote: It's good that C9 didn't get run over completely by Fnatic, overall the series looked close, confirming that C9 is indeed a world-class team and the first to come out of NA since S1. You can bet that TSM would have been walked all over by Fnatic and it wouldn't even look close. The unfortunate thing is that they are all alone at the top, anyone wanting NA to succeed should be praying for the other teams to step it up and for new teams like C9 to emerge. The EU scene is far healthier with pretty much everyone except MYM looking very close in strength this last split (and MYM weren't a complete walkover either). Similarly Korea has a ton of strong teams and that helps everyone get better (you learn more from losing than from winning and weak players/teams get replaced by better ones). I really hope NA can develop more teams on the level of C9. Before Worlds, C9 was already classified as a world class team and beating an EU team would not have helped assure people of that fact. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
 Besides a team like TSM with such a huge fan base just has to stay in the LCS, no need for them to win international competition because no matter of much they fail, players like Oddone and Dyrus will always get 20k+ viewers everytime they stream. It wouldn't surprise me if they make more money than korean pros. How can you motivate yourself to train more if you can win so much money with your actual level ? | ||
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baekgom84
Korea (South)375 Posts
C9 are a very good team. Not quite as good as Fnatic, but probably better than any other EU team on current form, which for my money makes them the second best Western team going around. EU has more depth than NA in terms of quality teams, I don't know how you would even argue otherwise. NA isn't without hope; Vulcun and TSM showed that they are capable of coming up with plays and controlling games (for a while) but, as always, their decision-making lets them down in the end. I think in some cases they also need to be more ruthless with roster changes. Anyway, the important thing for me is that my Najin boys are through to the semis, where I expect they'll take on SKT (admittedly I know almost nothing about the Gama Bears except that they have a player named Steak). I think that's a really interesting match-up. It's hard to call which team has the strongest bot and top lane; they are all extremely talented and have their own styles, although usually I would say that Mandu is a stronger support than Cain, but I feel like he has been a bit off in this tournament. You have to give jungle and mid to SKT, which means that Najin will need to come up with some interesting strategies in order to take them down. I'm thinking from SKT's perspective that Thresh might see a ban, since it seems to be Cain's strongest champion by far, and they will probably still want to keep Jax away from Expession if they are on the red side. If on blue side, they could try to take Pray's Twitch and Corki while picking Cait for Piglet. From Najin's perspective, I think they might have to go all-in on SKT's bot lane - maybe try to ban out Mandu? Expession should be able to hold his own against Impact, and Faker is so good that I think the most effective strategy against SKT is to just ignore him and try to keep down the rest of his team. It will need some amazing execution to pull off, and Najin will need to keep mixing up their strategies so as not to let SKT adapt. Of course, all of this theorizing will be for moot if the Gama Bears win. I would be amazed if that happened though. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On September 24 2013 19:43 Djagulingu wrote: Royal Club vs OMG. Is there anyone as excited as I am about this game? I would if I could watch it  | ||
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Imperfect1987
United States558 Posts
On September 24 2013 19:43 Djagulingu wrote: Royal Club vs OMG. Is there anyone as excited as I am about this game? It should be a great match. The teams are very even with each other and quite talented. Whoever wins it has a decent shot at winning worlds. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 24 2013 19:43 Djagulingu wrote: Royal Club vs OMG. Is there anyone as excited as I am about this game? Only match i'm going to make time in the day to watch. everything else has been check on it every once in a while and look at results. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1mLsJl1.jpg) dat yellowstar is killing me User was warned for this post | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2013 18:32 AsnSensation wrote: Meanwhile in sweden rekkles is looking for open spots in some other lcs team lol. fnatics botlane is the surprise of the tournament imo. And Puszu the Hero of fantasy League Rekkles is totally just going to stay on copenhagen pups | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On September 24 2013 13:28 eshlow wrote: I feel cheated in the C9-Fnatic match Anyone remember the GOM TV bo5 Jaedong vs Bisu showmatch about 5-6 years ago where it was 2-2 and we had just seen some of the most epic PvZ ever...... then in the 5th game Bisu doesn't hold-position his probe allowing 6 lings into his base and loses. Yeah. So anticlimatic i loved it it was great :D On September 24 2013 14:36 wei2coolman wrote: Meteos is jungler koreans want to be. They're too tired being 2ndry ward bitches. They just don't know about lovelin, wards and kills. Sup son. meteos style isnt actually goooooood it requires your lanes to win 4v5s lol only looks good vs trash tier NA teams, it would get dismantled by any asian style (unfortunately we wont even get to see this since they got rocked by fnatic) i hat eit when people hype meteos and say farm jungle is viable. yea ofc you look good when you 1v1 the other jungler cause you just spent the last 10 minutes farming, doesnt mean your team wins the game when all your lanes collapse when put against real competition lol. fnc doesnt even have a top jungler relatively, it wouldve been so satisfying so see c9 style get destroyed by an asian team ~_~ | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Like I concur with saint that it needs the lanes to break even or win, hai and balls can 1v1 their counterparts in NA easily while sneakynation do stuff like ashe/zyra which doesn't need to even do well to be of use, it's like a bot lane version of hotshot. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
about metoes jungling: i really like it, overall thanks to his hardcore jungle cleaning they had like 1-2k gold more than fnc due to his like 120 farm vs 50 on cynaide. I think it was good strategy in first game where in the laning phase fnc didnt have much potential to kill (both TP champs need some items to actually do dmg early and u can avoid obvious tp engages with superior vision which u could probably afford due to hardcore jungling). anyways after seeing that jungle style i really want to see more international competition. Riot should consider some showmatches in LA when all teams are there (or well they rather go disneyland i guess):/ edit: oh i also wanna point out that it was MYM that first started using tp in 'euro-meta' and they went 6-0 in the first week with it. Then all the teams picked it up vs MYM and MYM ended as a last team in summer EULCS. but still it was MYM who like 'invented' it. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 24 2013 21:10 Fusilero wrote: Rekkles is totally just going to stay on copenhagen pups They will switch or atleast i think that would be a nice solution for both teams. Rekkles back to there lineup and Puszu to CW. Unless Fnatic really would win worlds, wich i find rather a bit to possitive thinking. Not that i think Puszu is bad he's doing amazingly infact, just that i still think Rekkles is better and more carry instead of supporting AD. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 24 2013 22:05 koziol wrote: well really im surprised of so many ppl saying FNC is much better team. it was hard for me to call whos gonna win (I ofc wanted FNC to win) but srsly, the first game could go either way, and as FNC said, they had plan for first game and if it would fail the bo3 would go totally diffrent. sure FNC had late game champs, but one better fight from C9 around dragon or not being killed few times in bushes would have give them a lead and we know they can end the games. I think C9 did really good job and i really started to like them. they never had a huge gold diffrence n the first game even. about metoes jungling: i really like it, overall thanks to his hardcore jungle cleaning they had like 1-2k gold more than fnc due to his like 120 farm vs 50 on cynaide. I think it was good strategy in first game where in the laning phase fnc didnt have much potential to kill (both TP champs need some items to actually do dmg early and u can avoid obvious tp engages with superior vision which u could probably afford due to hardcore jungling). anyways after seeing that jungle style i really want to see more international competition. Riot should consider some showmatches in LA when all teams are there (or well they rather go disneyland i guess):/ edit: oh i also wanna point out that it was MYM that first started using tp in 'euro-meta' and they went 6-0 in the first week with it. Then all the teams picked it up vs MYM and MYM went last one. but still it was MYM who like 'invented' it. MYM week 1 was 4-1 and fnatic has been running tp shenanigans since season 2. | ||
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