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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 22 2013 07:36 GMT
#17061
On September 22 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote:
Weird that Cloud 9 is on at noon PDT/3:00 PM EST on a Monday. A lot of C9's main fan base will be in school when the games start. I guess they want the Korean fans to be able to see Black Sword?

Quarterfinal 1 was actually the only day of games at the studio that didn't sell out. I was considering going, but I held off buying because I thought it wouldn't. Checked yesterday, now they're gone :'(
Writer:o
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 22 2013 07:36 GMT
#17062
I was most excited to see how Uzi, and to a lesser degree, Expession (two amazingly gifted players who were never tested outside of their homelands) would fair against some of the top players from other regions. As it turns out, Uzi may not even get a chance to do so due to Riot Gaming's obvious disinterest in drawing up a more respectable tournament design, and Expession will probably only get recognition if he carries his team all the way to victory.

I was really worried about something like this happening ever since Riot Gaming explained how they would set up the round of eight, and I'm really upset that I might as well watch some LPL games after the World Championship is over if I ever want to check out Uzi, and it wouldn't make any difference except for the casting if Royal Club fails to progress to the round of four. Seriously, can someone please justify the way Riot Gaming sets up the tournament, because the draws single handidly ruined the thing I anticipated for the most all year.
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Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
September 22 2013 07:37 GMT
#17063
On September 22 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:33 Daogin wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:32 Fionn wrote:
Expession just seems to fail in big competitions. He's been in five OGN seasons. He's been knocked out in group stages four times. Made the quarterfinals once with Shield, but got smashed 0-3 by the rookie Faker and SKT. I really do think he's a promising player and wasn't the main reason why Sword didn't make the quarters of OGN Summer, but the team around him just crumbles around him for some reason. If Nagne, their new mid, can come in and play somewhere below Faker, but much better than Dade, then I think Pray and Expession will be in a good position to win their lanes.

I would have been more worried for Sword if they had drawn Fnatic, with one of the best mid lanes and a steady top lane going up against Black Sword's inexperience, but Gambit were shaky in the group stages. If Nagne can play decently in lane and not go full Dade, I like Sword's chances with how well everyone says they're playing in scrims.


Sometimes I wonder if your just talking to yourself through your posts.


Yes, I am.


Ah, makes sense now

Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 22 2013 07:39 GMT
#17064
On September 22 2013 16:36 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote:
Weird that Cloud 9 is on at noon PDT/3:00 PM EST on a Monday. A lot of C9's main fan base will be in school when the games start. I guess they want the Korean fans to be able to see Black Sword?

Quarterfinal 1 was actually the only day of games at the studio that didn't sell out. I was considering going, but I held off buying because I thought it wouldn't. Checked yesterday, now they're gone :'(


Now Fnatic will lose due to you not being there.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 22 2013 07:39 GMT
#17065
On September 22 2013 16:36 Letmelose wrote:
I was most excited to see how Uzi, and to a lesser degree, Expession (two amazingly gifted players who were never tested outside of their homelands) would fair against some of the top players from other regions. As it turns out, Uzi may not even get a chance to do so due to Riot Gaming's obvious disinterest in drawing up a more respectable tournament design, and Expession will probably only get recognition if he carries his team all the way to victory.

I was really worried about something like this happening ever since Riot Gaming explained how they would set up the round of eight, and I'm really upset that I might as well watch some LPL games after the World Championship is over if I ever want to check out Uzi, and it wouldn't make any difference except for the casting if Royal Club fails to progress to the round of four. Seriously, can someone please justify the way Riot Gaming sets up the tournament, because the draws single handidly ruined the thing I anticipated for the most all year.

Same. How I wish there were 4 groups of 4 or some sort of double elim system
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
September 22 2013 07:40 GMT
#17066
On September 22 2013 16:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:34 Gahlo wrote:
Did you not watch the production? Random chick puts the cards in envelopes and closes them. Cards go to Magus. Magus gives cards to Sjokz. Sjokz gives cards to Red Beard.

The ONLY way Red Beard could know what order the cards are in is if he watched them get put in the envelopes and then followed the carriers on the way to the stage to track any possible shuffling. Is there any proof of that anywhere? No. Now get off the medium in the middle of Times Square, and put your underwear inside your pants.

Did you not read what i'm complaining about?????? I'm talking about redbeards movement of the cards influencing which card is picked. Not that he's doing it to force a certain card to be picked.

How does that realistically matter when he doesn't know what is in them? It's a classic case of Schrodinger's Cat, except now there are 4 cats in 4 boxes.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 22 2013 07:40 GMT
#17067
Bah, I wanted to see Uzi go up against a foreign team and now it's just going to be a LPL rehash instead. Sad day.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
September 22 2013 07:40 GMT
#17068
Who is statistically the best team going into the quarterfinals?
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 22 2013 07:41 GMT
#17069
at least have the games be bo5. bo3 is just terrible for single elim.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 22 2013 07:41 GMT
#17070
there needs to be a loser bracket if they're going to have this random draw bullshit. how could they not see this type of situation happening
Hey! Listen!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 22 2013 07:42 GMT
#17071
On September 22 2013 16:36 Letmelose wrote:
I was most excited to see how Uzi, and to a lesser degree, Expession (two amazingly gifted players who were never tested outside of their homelands) would fair against some of the top players from other regions. As it turns out, Uzi may not even get a chance to do so due to Riot Gaming's obvious disinterest in drawing up a more respectable tournament design, and Expession will probably only get recognition if he carries his team all the way to victory.

I was really worried about something like this happening ever since Riot Gaming explained how they would set up the round of eight, and I'm really upset that I might as well watch some LPL games after the World Championship is over if I ever want to check out Uzi, and it wouldn't make any difference except for the casting if Royal Club fails to progress to the round of four. Seriously, can someone please justify the way Riot Gaming sets up the tournament, because the draws single handidly ruined the thing I anticipated for the most all year.


Yeah it sucks. If Royal had been in the group stages and not OMG, instead of everyone hyping and talking about OMG's amazing early game and how awesome Cool and LoveLin are, we would have probably had people gushing over how Uzi is the best ADC in the world and how flipping insane but awesome Royal's strategies are.

Logically it's better Royal had a free ride to the quarterfinals, but OMG picked up probably a ton of new fans this week. Cool and LoveLin have become marquee names that casual North American and European fans will remember when they're brought up in the future. If Uzi and Royal Club lose in a single Bo3, no one is really going to remember them at all or hype them up. This is why I wish they had the top four teams that got byes to play a round robin of their own, letting the team who finished first pick their opponent in the first round.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 07:43:54
September 22 2013 07:42 GMT
#17072
On September 22 2013 16:40 Daogin wrote:
Who is statistically the best team going into the quarterfinals?



SKT1. The only other hypothetical contention based on play is OMG.

And to chime in, Riot you gotta let Royal show more games. fck. =\
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 22 2013 07:44 GMT
#17073
Now that Ozone are out, the statistics are actually very heavily in SKT's favour, since they never lost a BoX against any team but Ozone.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 22 2013 07:45 GMT
#17074
Funny how no EU team ended up behind a NA team is this pool play. Thank god Vulcun beat Fnatic on first day and showed us who was the boss ! :o
The legend of Darien lives on
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 22 2013 07:45 GMT
#17075
random draw so suck lol
GANDHISAUCE
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 22 2013 07:45 GMT
#17076
Going into that group draw there was actually a 50% chance that at least one Ro8 match would be either CN vs CN or KR vs KR.

Which is stupid as fuck. Riot, you shouldn't allow this to be possible.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 22 2013 07:46 GMT
#17077
On September 22 2013 16:45 TheYango wrote:
Going into that group draw there was actually a 50% chance that at least one Ro8 match would be either CN vs CN or KR vs KR.

Which is stupid as fuck. Riot, you shouldn't allow this to be possible.

Exactly.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
September 22 2013 07:46 GMT
#17078
On September 22 2013 16:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:34 Gahlo wrote:
Did you not watch the production? Random chick puts the cards in envelopes and closes them. Cards go to Magus. Magus gives cards to Sjokz. Sjokz gives cards to Red Beard.

The ONLY way Red Beard could know what order the cards are in is if he watched them get put in the envelopes and then followed the carriers on the way to the stage to track any possible shuffling. Is there any proof of that anywhere? No. Now get off the medium in the middle of Times Square, and put your underwear inside your pants.

Did you not read what i'm complaining about?????? I'm talking about redbeards movement of the cards influencing which card is picked. Not that he's doing it to force a certain card to be picked.

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:35 las91 wrote:

Why is everyone going so ham on PrinceXizor? no comprendo. In any case, looking forward to the stomp for C9 to get out and then watching both of Korea's teams lose

I'm disliked in this subforum.


I watched it again just now and the only time he was even close to influencing the decision was for NaJin's pick. He completely stopped before NaJin or C9's picks and it didn't matter what the Bears picked.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 22 2013 07:46 GMT
#17079
On September 22 2013 16:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
Funny how no EU team ended up behind a NA team is this pool play. Thank god Vulcun beat Fnatic on first day and showed us who was the boss ! :o


GG.eu ended up behind TSM.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
September 22 2013 07:47 GMT
#17080
On September 22 2013 16:45 TheYango wrote:
Going into that group draw there was actually a 50% chance that at least one Ro8 match would be either CN vs CN or KR vs KR.

Which is stupid as fuck. Riot, you shouldn't allow this to be possible.

Yeah, KR and CN should have been given more slots at world to make these chances higher!

C'mon now.
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