On September 18 2013 05:02 KissBlade wrote: Tbh, I attribute a lot of Ozone's weakness to jet lag, first international exposure, etc. I don't think there's anyone who can say that the main cast is just playing much worse than anything we've seen from them.
I dunno man, the last game the played was August 28th, that was like 3 weeks ago! Dade's champion pool is laughable, and imp not being able to play corki is mind boggling. There must have been some behind the scene issues going on, either that or they are just woefully unprepared.
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like people can only remember the last game they saw
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like people can only remember the last game they saw
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
Peoples reaction is always over the top. Calm down. Ozone has still some games to play. Just like other teams. There plenty fo room for improvment and deterioration in every team.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 05:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:12 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:43 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
On September 18 2013 03:25 NeoIllusions wrote: I wish people would analyze the actual games, rather than coming up with bullshit theories. zzz
So you're telling me Ozone played well in these past 4 games?
On September 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote: We reached the point where we have to make the jetlag excuse for koreans when they lose to a foreign team once in a while xD
ofc the Europeans that beat em are immune to jetlag after traveling to a -9 timezone.
Ozone looked bad against every team they played against in their groups already. On top of that, Fnatic and Gambit are well experienced in traveling for competition aboard. Take comments out of context more?
On September 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote: We reached the point where we have to make the jetlag excuse for koreans when they lose to a foreign team once in a while xD
ofc the Europeans that beat em are immune to jetlag after traveling to a -9 timezone.
Ozone looked bad against every team they played against in their groups already. On top of that, Fnatic and Gambit are well experienced in traveling for competition aboard. Take comments out of context more?
Vulcun just bad then, since no excuse. lol, their game against mineski made me facepalm so hard.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 05:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:12 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:43 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
Standing doesn't matter, it's all about how you get there. There haven't been any flashes of brilliance from Ozone, save for the game against Vulcun. Ozone in yesterday's games looked wholly mediocre.
The ozone vulcun game, just showed how bad NA rotations usually are. Xmithie and Mancloud getting caught so much.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 05:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:12 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:43 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
Standing doesn't matter, it's all about how you get there. There haven't been any flashes of brilliance from Ozone, save for the game against Vulcun. Ozone in yesterday's games looked wholly mediocre.
On September 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote: We reached the point where we have to make the jetlag excuse for koreans when they lose to a foreign team once in a while xD
ofc the Europeans that beat em are immune to jetlag after traveling to a -9 timezone.
Ozone looked bad against every team they played against in their groups already. On top of that, Fnatic and Gambit are well experienced in traveling for competition aboard. Take comments out of context more?
Two days ago they were like : no korean will lose against foreigners.
Now : yeah man I didn't manage the jetlag because I'm inexperienced ! Teach me please xPeke sempai.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 05:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:12 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:43 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:15 Spaiku wrote: Ozone plays really bad during 4 games, still go 2-2 and with plenty of chances to make it out of groups and they "embarrass themselves in front of a global audience" "won't make it out of groups for sure" "a waste of money from Samsung"
What's up with the sensationalism? Is this the credit you get from getting 3rd in the last OGN and winning the previous one?
Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
Standing doesn't matter, it's all about how you get there. There haven't been any flashes of brilliance from Ozone, save for the game against Vulcun. Ozone in yesterday's games looked wholly mediocre.
At the end of the day the standings are all that matter lol.
On September 18 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote: Ozone still has the ability and go 4-0 the next games. But it was obvious that Dade got outplayed and outpicked hard - he needs to get his shit together, just try not to feed and stay relevant. They need to play for Imp to carry them. The botlane is still the best of the group by far and maybe the entire tournament. If they can survive the early- and midgame, Imp will carry.
I still have Ozone as favorite to still move out of groups. They're still good, but god these past 2 days have been disappointing as fuck.
On September 18 2013 05:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:12 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:43 Spaiku wrote:
On September 18 2013 03:27 wei2coolman wrote: [quote] Let me remind you, the 2 games they won, one was against mineski, and the other was vulcun throwing.
Thanks for reminding me! Now that justifies questioning his sponsors and calling them an embarrassment before they're even out the tournament
It definitely worrisome. If you spend that kind of money on a team, especially expecting the best in Korea, and what you end up getting is a team that's around as good as a #2-3 NA team? I mean sure, Vulcun is pretty good, but when you spending 500k + player income + expenses + etc, you want the world's best, not the world's average.
They just got 3rd in OGN, how does 4 bad games makes them an average 2-3 NA team?
This overraction about Ozone is so silly it's like poeple can only remember the last game they saw
4 bad games in a row. With 2 terrible mid picks (ryze), not even skill issue, just straight up BAD PICK. A Gragas pick, where it was PLAINLY obvious that Dade did not play it. A jayce pick was whatever, it's mineski, but it's widely considered a uncommon pick now due to manamune and kit nerf. Then we see imp not playing corki, and playing things out of his comfort zone like triforce kog. Looper had one good singed game, the rest was pretty damn underwhelming.
This is not just "4 bad games", this is starting to be a pattern.
I think you're wei2overreactingman
If you don't think the ryze picks in isolation weren't troubling enough I don't know what to tell you.
OMG OZONE IS TIED FOR THIRD PLACE WHY AREN'T THEY FIRST THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH.
Standing doesn't matter, it's all about how you get there. There haven't been any flashes of brilliance from Ozone, save for the game against Vulcun. Ozone in yesterday's games looked wholly mediocre.
At the end of the day the standings are all that matter lol.
Yes, but my point was that if a team has decent standings but looked like garbage in every one of their games, we're still gonna say that team is playing like shit.
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