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Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
September 14 2013 22:48 GMT
#201
On September 15 2013 04:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
na blows eu blows kr cn will destroy the white people

hell half the eu na teams are yellow people anyways

sorry csheep biggest troll, will kill me if I delete this


There's one yellow player on the EU teams and he's probably the worst one there. Stupid good asians, stop staying in Asia.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
September 14 2013 23:00 GMT
#202
I really wanna know the scrim results that are happening now @ Riot office.
Heartscry
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 14 2013 23:09 GMT
#203
SKT, please annihilate LemonDogs tomorrow, but save your biggest bullyramming for whenever you play against TSM, or even better a Chinese side.

Go Faker Go! Another Zed / LeBlanc masterclass please!
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 14 2013 23:42 GMT
#204
On September 15 2013 02:34 HorsemasterK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 01:13 Lysanias wrote:
On September 11 2013 14:24 Fionn wrote:
Faker vs. Cool will be the best player in the world (consensually) facing the guy who probably has the best chance of knocking him off outside Korea.

Faker vs. Reginald will either end in everyone shitting on North America, Reginald or TSM, or a miracle will happen and Reginald will beat Faker, retire on the spot and move to Hawaii.



There is no way Regi is crazy enough to


Famous last words.


FKIT BAYLIFE YOLO420BLAZEIT
Fan of the Jangbanger
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 15 2013 00:23 GMT
#205
On September 15 2013 08:00 ExoFun wrote:
I really wanna know the scrim results that are happening now @ Riot office.

I don't think the Korean and Chinese teams will scrim anyone besides each other.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
September 15 2013 00:26 GMT
#206
Paging moonbear

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1mejk9/no_moonbears_s3_world_preview/
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
September 15 2013 00:47 GMT
#207
On September 15 2013 09:26 nojitosunrise wrote:
Paging moonbear

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1mejk9/no_moonbears_s3_world_preview/

lol
i love how that gets asked on reddit on not here...
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
September 15 2013 02:00 GMT
#208
I can't wait for the SKT-TSM match. Most of my RL friends are 'casuals' and are all on the TSM TSM bandwagon. It'll be nice to put them in their place lol.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#209
I still want NA teams to put EU teams in their place. How dare they think they deserve to watch Worlds at reasonable hours. Hope they show why they wouldn't want to watch the massacre anyway.

#USA
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 15 2013 03:16 GMT
#210
So freaking pumped. Traded for a different shift at work, so I could have tomorrow off to watch the games. Let's goooooooooooooo.
-
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 15 2013 03:18 GMT
#211
On September 15 2013 03:18 Roffles wrote:
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On September 14 2013 19:08 Don_Julio wrote:
On September 14 2013 19:04 glzElectromaster wrote:
On September 14 2013 15:12 UmberBane wrote:
Honestly, you can not compare Montecristo to players. You just can't. He fills a completely different niche, which he is good at. He blatantly admits that he has, in comparison, very little understanding of the intricacies of lane matchups and item builds and all that stuff, that pro players are going to have (and also ex-pro player casters like Jatt or Kobe), but he is almost bound, by the nature of his job, to have a better big picture team strategy understanding than most players have individually. Players have to focus on completely different things to keep their mechanics up, their decision making, everything that makes them good as an individual, which leaves little time in the day for actually studying professional strategies. That's the reason why Koreans have so many coaches and analysts, because they simply can achieve a very high level of strategic knowledge simply by studying strategies and vods over and over again, while the players themselves simpy don't have enough ours in their day to do both.

Montecristo falls into this category of an analyst, because this is the niche he fills as a caster. Many people here seem to think that he simply observes the game and makes up his own conclusions, but in reality he frequently talks to professional analysts/coaches and players of top Korean teams and learns from their immense knowledge. You can see how much he actually improved since he arrived in Korea.

So, just don't compare them. If someone says "Montecristo has better LoL knowledge than most pros" that's a very vague statement that will never apply like that. If you say he has better team strategy knowledge than most pros, then it wouldn't be to put down any pro player at all, because their main focus is bound to be on other (very important aspects) of the game that Montecristo has little knowledge in. Equally someone like kkoma (coach for SKT) is bound to have a wider understanding of the overall team strategies than his players, because we can easily assume that he focuses on that aspect 12 hours a day or so, while his players are busy practicing 12 hours a day. This happens in many sports and is not an insult to any player, if their coach knows more about some of the aspects of the game...

/rant


I concur with UmberBane here. If you know anything about Broodwar/Sc2/Almost every eSport ever, even the best, godly players have coaches that got them up there, despite their coaches being much more underwhelming when they were pros themselves. Flash's coach was a first generation pro that got high in rankings but never achieved too many great things. Coach Ryu Won that raised MMA to championships, I don't know if he even played Sc2 competitively. Game knowledge =/= Game skill.

Guess who was the mastermind behind Fantasy's success.

Better than Fantasy by far. oov is god.


oov is god
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9192 Posts
September 15 2013 03:25 GMT
#212
On September 15 2013 11:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I still want NA teams to put EU teams in their place. How dare they think they deserve to watch Worlds at reasonable hours. Hope they show why they wouldn't want to watch the massacre anyway.

#USA

It's quite annoying that there are such high chances for C9 to not play any EU teams at all
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 03:35:22
September 15 2013 03:31 GMT
#213
On September 15 2013 09:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:00 ExoFun wrote:
I really wanna know the scrim results that are happening now @ Riot office.

I don't think the Korean and Chinese teams will scrim anyone besides each other.


I don't know about that. In an interview, Royal.Tabe said that the Korean teams most likely will only scrim among themselves and the only "reliable" partner that they can scrim against is team OMG. But considering that they are still in China yesterday and there are lots of teams playing today, I think it is very likely that team OMG will scrim against teams in group B to get ready for their own matches.

I am rather curious that there is little news of people on NA soloq meeting some of the stars coming into the tournament. Are the teams training on tournament server only?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 03:45 GMT
#214
Najin Sword brought Shield to LA.

SKT and Ozone are bros and can't face until at least the semifinals, so I wouldn't be surprised if they scrim.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 04:23:37
September 15 2013 04:23 GMT
#215
On September 15 2013 12:31 nikuniku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 09:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 15 2013 08:00 ExoFun wrote:
I really wanna know the scrim results that are happening now @ Riot office.

I don't think the Korean and Chinese teams will scrim anyone besides each other.


I don't know about that. In an interview, Royal.Tabe said that the Korean teams most likely will only scrim among themselves and the only "reliable" partner that they can scrim against is team OMG. But considering that they are still in China yesterday and there are lots of teams playing today, I think it is very likely that team OMG will scrim against teams in group B to get ready for their own matches.

I am rather curious that there is little news of people on NA soloq meeting some of the stars coming into the tournament. Are the teams training on tournament server only?

That's what I meant. Koreans practicing against koreans and chinese practicing against chinese. Koreans and chinese are pretty careful when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
September 15 2013 04:25 GMT
#216
On September 15 2013 12:25 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 11:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I still want NA teams to put EU teams in their place. How dare they think they deserve to watch Worlds at reasonable hours. Hope they show why they wouldn't want to watch the massacre anyway.

#USA

It's quite annoying that there are such high chances for C9 to not play any EU teams at all


It's quite annoying that the group stage teams will play a minimum of 8 games and the bye teams might only play two. I would be very disappointed if C9 just got crushed by SKT or something and didn't get to play anyone else.

(To be clear, I'm happy that there are so many group stage games, it's just bizarre that suddenly the quarterfinals are only best two out of three after that.)
Zero fighting.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 15 2013 04:42 GMT
#217
On September 15 2013 13:25 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:25 Dan HH wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I still want NA teams to put EU teams in their place. How dare they think they deserve to watch Worlds at reasonable hours. Hope they show why they wouldn't want to watch the massacre anyway.

#USA

It's quite annoying that there are such high chances for C9 to not play any EU teams at all


It's quite annoying that the group stage teams will play a minimum of 8 games and the bye teams might only play two. I would be very disappointed if C9 just got crushed by SKT or something and didn't get to play anyone else.

(To be clear, I'm happy that there are so many group stage games, it's just bizarre that suddenly the quarterfinals are only best two out of three after that.)

Agreed, quarters should be at least bo5s.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 15 2013 05:08 GMT
#218
I was thinking about this last night, having the quarters be bo5 means the semis have to be bo7 and the finals bo9. This works in SC2 because on average the games are shorter but it would be too much for LoL. However, if they had a losers bracket then it could work as the team from the winner bracket could come in with a 2 game advantage.
@miicah88
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
September 15 2013 05:09 GMT
#219
If anyone is gonna be at these Day 1 games live, come and find me - I'd love to see a friendly TL face (I'll be wearing a Teamliquid T-Shirt and probably cheering for T1 24/7 even in the games they aren't playing).

Writerman what
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#220
HOLY SHIT SO HYYYYPE X.X
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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