EPT[EU LCS] Summer Playoffs - Page 14
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2013 21:56 Dan HH wrote: They did but didn't make it to the promotion/relegation. To make it a bit clearer - CIS & Turkey are just 2 more EU servers like EUW & EUNE. They have the exact same opportunities as the older servers and this is basically a handout. Hypothetically, you could have a really good team from Turkey that makes it to LCS and finishes let's say 5th and then a weaker team from Turkey that wins the Wildcard and gets to Worlds while the better one doesn't. It's a weird setup and Gambit & GG.eu have realistic chances of being in this exact situation. This sounds though as if you generally have a problem with a spot going to these regions, not only with teams trying to qualify for both. I dont agree with that notion at all. Remember spots for worlds dont depend on level of competetive teams, but on server population, so that the respective servers have adequate representation at worlds. Otherwise you might as well argue 3 spots for NA or EU are a "handout". And I think 1/4 of a worlds spot is totally appropriate for the size of the Turkish or Russian server. Also why should CIS & Turkey be just 2 more EU servers, but all the Asian servers seperated from each other? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:06 AsnSensation wrote: Dark Passage's ad is terrible wow, he had to be lagging otherwise I can't explain these 2 trades he took to insta lose lane. DP's adc cant play in worlds due his age. Lethilion is stand in. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:07 Mensol wrote: DP's adc cant play in worlds due his age. Lethilion is stand in. ah I remember reading that here yesterday. well yeah lethi is terrible then, he just stood there and let twitch stack his venom. Rooting for Pain!! Kami is a beast. Has any team trolled pain yet by hovering over Morde? I didn't watch any game yesterday | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:10 AsnSensation wrote: Has any team trolled pain yet by hovering over Morde? I didn't watch any game yesterday Yes, DP just now. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
haha ok, I was afk during champ select. Pain at worlds would be amazing. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:10 AsnSensation wrote: Has any team trolled pain yet by hovering over Morde? I didn't watch any game yesterday On August 21 2013 20:54 Haasts wrote: I bet PaiN are sick of every international team they face hovering over Morde in champ select, zzzz. Swain for IM! (^^ a couple've teams did it yesterday - IM & GG, I think?) | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9118 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:02 Redox wrote: This sounds though as if you generally have a problem with a spot going to these regions, not only with teams trying to qualify for both. I dont agree with that notion at all. Remember spots for worlds dont depend on level of competetive teams, but on server population, so that the respective servers have adequate representation at worlds. Otherwise you might as well argue 3 spots for NA or EU are a "handout". And I think 1/4 of a worlds spot is totally appropriate for the size of the Turkish or Russian server. I don't know why you understood it that way. My problem is that having 2 possible paths to Worlds as opposed to every other region in the world where there is only 1 is unfair AND that teams from this regions that perform worse (AKA cannot get into LCS) have an easier path than the better teams from the very same regions (CIS & Turkey) that do get into LCS. A qualifier should never give an advantage for performing worse. I'm not talking about how good these teams are compared to other regions, I'm talking about the way this works withing the regions themselves. I don't know what's so hard to understand? The example is simple: Gambit & GG.eu are both CIS teams. Gambit has to finish top 3 in LCS EU to go to worlds. GG.eu lost to some random teams (Imperium? I think) in LCS prequalifiers and yet they have to beat weaker teams to go to worlds. Why promote mediocrity? This has nothing to do with server, language or diversity since they both technically belong to that server. Although neither actually play on that server in general. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:17 Dan HH wrote: I don't know why you understood it that way. My problem is that having 2 possible paths to Worlds as opposed to every other region in the world where there is only 1 is unfair AND that teams from this regions that perform worse (AKA cannot get into LCS) have an easier path than the better teams from the very same regions (CIS & Turkey) that do get into LCS. A qualifier should never give an advantage for performing worse. I'm not talking about how good these teams are compared to other regions, I'm talking about the way this works withing the regions themselves. I don't know what's so hard to understand? The example is simple: Gambit & GG.eu are both CIS teams. Gambit has to finish top 3 in LCS EU to go to worlds. GG.eu lost to some random teams (Imperium? I think) in LCS prequalifiers and yet they have to beat weaker teams to go to worlds. Why promote mediocrity? This has nothing to do with server, language or diversity since they both technically belong to that server. Although neither actually play on that server in general. CIS is probably a poor example and idk why they're included but the WC tournament is mainly for countries with a huge (and I really mean huge) LoL population but an underdeveloped scene. Brazil and Turkey have crazy League numbers according to Riot and these are countries not particularly known for video games like Asian countries. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:17 Dan HH wrote: I don't know why you understood it that way. My problem is that having 2 possible paths to Worlds as opposed to every other region in the world where there is only 1 is unfair AND that teams from this regions that perform worse (AKA cannot get into LCS) have an easier path than the better teams from the very same regions (CIS & Turkey) that do get into LCS. A qualifier should never give an advantage for performing worse. I'm not talking about how good these teams are compared to other regions, I'm talking about the way this works withing the regions themselves. I don't know what's so hard to understand? The example is simple: Gambit & GG.eu are both CIS teams. Gambit has to finish top 3 in LCS EU to go to worlds. GG.eu lost to some random teams (Imperium? I think) in LCS prequalifiers and yet they have to beat weaker teams to go to worlds. Why promote mediocrity? This has nothing to do with server, language or diversity since they both technically belong to that server. Although neither actually play on that server in general. Why I understood it that way? Because you said "To make it a bit clearer - CIS & Turkey are just 2 more EU servers like EUW & EUNE". That kinda sounds like they should not have seperate spots. Before that post I already agreed to your point that a team should only be allowed to participate in one of the qualifiers. What are we even discussing about then? :D | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
They don't even have a big gold lead but they're outplaying DP at all fronts. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:29 Don_Julio wrote: Hey, why is nobody talkin about how well PaiN is playing this game? They don't even have a big gold lead but they're outplaying DP at all fronts. Kinda boring already over. :D | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Best build evar. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:32 Volband wrote: Riot needs to do something with this wildcard thingy next year. It's terrible, not entertaining, and not too fair overall. Not much they can do about game quality. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On August 22 2013 22:32 Volband wrote: Riot needs to do something with this wildcard thingy next year. It's terrible, not entertaining, and not too fair overall. The overall idea is good... but lets hope that by these kind of tournaments there will be a skill increase and more competition on the servers that dont got LCS formats. | ||
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