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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 22 2013 12:29 GMT
#241
On August 22 2013 21:28 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:27 schmutttt wrote:
Elysia and heavenz need the boot but unsure if there is enough talent here in Oceania to replace


elysia is the team captain however and dictates many of the roster changes which is unfortunate for the organization.


Sucks because he's been non-existent this whole tournament.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 22 2013 12:31 GMT
#242
On August 22 2013 21:27 schmutttt wrote:
Elysia and heavenz need the boot but unsure if there is enough talent here in Oceania to replace

There are many Heavenz quality players in bronze league. Missing cs? No map awareness? Stupid decisions? Repeating these mistakes over and over again? Yep, definetly bronze - or trolling. Both equally bad.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 22 2013 12:32 GMT
#243
On August 22 2013 21:29 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:28 GTR wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:27 schmutttt wrote:
Elysia and heavenz need the boot but unsure if there is enough talent here in Oceania to replace


elysia is the team captain however and dictates many of the roster changes which is unfortunate for the organization.


Sucks because he's been non-existent this whole tournament.

The ghost of HotshotGG...
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 22 2013 12:32 GMT
#244
What's up with all this Twitch chat level comments here? Its getting kinda annoying.
Off-season = best season
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9217 Posts
August 22 2013 12:33 GMT
#245
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 22 2013 12:35 GMT
#246
Pain will win the final easily (assuming they win their BO3 as well).

Crazy game from iM, not getting FB on Trynd might have made a very different game. AD lulu obviously only works when you stomp early.
@miicah88
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 12:37:41
August 22 2013 12:36 GMT
#247
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

Yea would love to see the Brazilian team go to worlds it would help them to develop their region. Would love to see that feature.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 22 2013 12:37 GMT
#248
On August 22 2013 21:32 Redox wrote:
What's up with all this Twitch chat level comments here? Its getting kinda annoying.

Isnt there a option on TL to hide message some particular guys?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 12:38:26
August 22 2013 12:37 GMT
#249
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.
Off-season = best season
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
August 22 2013 12:38 GMT
#250
Ad lulu is OP
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51625 Posts
August 22 2013 12:38 GMT
#251
On August 22 2013 21:36 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

Yea would love to see the Brazilian team go to worlds it would help them to develop their region. Would love to see that feature.


why don't they just merge brazil, la north and la south into one region? same with turkey, no idea how they got a separate server.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 22 2013 12:39 GMT
#252
On August 22 2013 21:38 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:36 ExoFun wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

Yea would love to see the Brazilian team go to worlds it would help them to develop their region. Would love to see that feature.


why don't they just merge brazil, la north and la south into one region? same with turkey, no idea how they got a separate server.

Because of language, same with the Brazil server.
Off-season = best season
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
August 22 2013 12:40 GMT
#253
On August 22 2013 21:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.

Well Lithuania isn't even a part of the CIS
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9217 Posts
August 22 2013 12:40 GMT
#254
On August 22 2013 21:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.

Not at all, I'm saying teams from CIS/Turkey should either be allowed to try their luck in LCS or in the Wildcard but not in both.
It makes no sense whatsoever, this is like allowing SEA teams to play in the Taiwan qualifier for Worlds and then have their own qualifier as well but without Taiwanese teams.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 22 2013 12:41 GMT
#255
On August 22 2013 21:40 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:37 Redox wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.

Well Lithuania isn't even a part of the CIS

Yeah and Norway is not part of EU, lets kick out Nukeduck. As I said in my post, this is not about political boundaries obviously. It is about latency and language.
Off-season = best season
Innuendo
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium616 Posts
August 22 2013 12:42 GMT
#256
'and i died'
'yes you did'
haha sjokz rubbing it in.
Bisu fan, may the revolutionist return
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 22 2013 12:49 GMT
#257
On August 22 2013 21:40 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:37 Redox wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.

Not at all, I'm saying teams from CIS/Turkey should either be allowed to try their luck in LCS or in the Wildcard but not in both.
It makes no sense whatsoever, this is like allowing SEA teams to play in the Taiwan qualifier for Worlds and then have their own qualifier as well but without Taiwanese teams.

Yeah I guess you are right. Once you participate in the qualifer of one region you should not be able to participate in another. Teams have to be told in advance then though. Btw did DP partcipate in a EU LCS qualifier?
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2013 12:52 GMT
#258
paiN, this is yours to lose.
Let's do this.

ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 12:56:48
August 22 2013 12:55 GMT
#259
On August 22 2013 21:35 miicah wrote:
Pain will win the final easily (assuming they win their BO3 as well).

Crazy game from iM, not getting FB on Trynd might have made a very different game. AD lulu obviously only works when you stomp early.

But why would you pick AD Lulu when...

1. AP is superior anyway
2. You have a Trynd

Btw, if GG wins this I'm gonna cry. Ori was good, but that's all.

Edit: That Morde fake-pick is racist!
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9217 Posts
August 22 2013 12:56 GMT
#260
On August 22 2013 21:49 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:40 Dan HH wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:37 Redox wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:33 Dan HH wrote:
I don't think they will win the final but it would be kinda unfair if GG got the worlds spot. I have nothing against them but they shouldn't even be here. Unlike Pain, iM & Lyon, these guys have the opportunity to join LCS and tried to but they couldn't get past the pre-qualifiers.

It would be unfair towards the regions without a pro league, unfair towards the 4th-8th LCS EU teams, unfair towards all the EU challenger teams that are better than them and beat them.

Hell, Gambit is techincally from the same 'new region' and could potentially finish 4th-6th and not go to Worlds while GG.eu have such an easier road based on a technicality. And sending the 15th-20th best EU team to Worlds doesn't exactly add any flavor to it.

Same things apply to Dark Passage. So I'm rooting for Pain I guess.

So you are saying the CIS region should not exist? Dont you think that is a little harsh?

Btw these regions depend on Riot servers regions, not on geography or politics or whatever. So if there is a Turkish or Russian server, there also is an opportunity for teams from there to qualify through their server regions.

Not at all, I'm saying teams from CIS/Turkey should either be allowed to try their luck in LCS or in the Wildcard but not in both.
It makes no sense whatsoever, this is like allowing SEA teams to play in the Taiwan qualifier for Worlds and then have their own qualifier as well but without Taiwanese teams.

Yeah I guess you are right. Once you participate in the qualifer of one region you should not be able to participate in another. Teams have to be told in advance then though. Btw did DP partcipate in a EU LCS qualifier?

They did but didn't make it to the promotion/relegation. To make it a bit clearer - CIS & Turkey are just 2 more EU servers like EUW & EUNE. They have the exact same opportunities as the older servers and this is basically a handout.

Hypothetically, you could have a really good team from Turkey that makes it to LCS and finishes let's say 5th and then a weaker team from Turkey that wins the Wildcard and gets to Worlds while the better one doesn't. It's a weird setup and Gambit & GG.eu have realistic chances of being in this exact situation.
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