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GLHF may the best team win!

All-Star Schedules (NA Times: PDT)
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 26 2013 04:02 GMT
#4441
On May 26 2013 13:01 Spaiku wrote:
Surrendering in an All Star match? Lameee

Let us enjoy the ownage

woulda only lasted another minute or two anyway
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 26 2013 04:02 GMT
#4442
OKAY GUYS SHAKE IT OFF

AND BAN THRESH, IT'S MADLIFE YOU RETARDS
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 26 2013 04:02 GMT
#4443
On May 26 2013 13:01 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 13:00 ilikeredheads wrote:
surrender at 22,

Your NA LCS all stars

better to surrender than be fantasy.

the only Fantasy is that Doublelift/Xpecial are the Best bot lane in this tournament
Administrator@TL_Zess
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 04:04:31
May 26 2013 04:02 GMT
#4444
On May 26 2013 12:59 AsnSensation wrote:
Yes, champ select mistake

Diana+Ryze was probably, to be fair. That and KR correctly predicted NA's lane setups to keep them in 3 losing lane matchups, when NA tried to salvage the lane MUs.

EDIT:
On May 26 2013 13:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
People talk about Dyrus picking the wrong champ, but he was ironically the only one with anything going for him that game lol

That's Dyrus for you. He's rarely that flashy, but he's also one of the most consistent top laners in NA.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 04:03:47
May 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#4445
well it doesn't really matter how u pick if korea can just solo kill NA in lanes that are supposedly even, not to mention NA had some disadvantaged lanes as well
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#4446
That was actually painful to watch.
Never Knows Best.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#4447
On May 26 2013 13:02 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 13:01 King K. Rool wrote:
On May 26 2013 13:00 ilikeredheads wrote:
surrender at 22,

Your NA LCS all stars

better to surrender than be fantasy.

the only Fantasy is that Doublelift/Xpecial are the Best bot lane in this tournament


Least they are better then EU

lol
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
May 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#4448
To be fair on North America, Korea abuses their greatest weakness. North America has a surprisingly competetent laning phase in a conventional setting (now defunct in Korea), but really struggles against the constant lane swaps and picking/understanding champions suited towards this new lane swap-heavy metagame Korea enjoys. It doesn't matter how strong they are, Korea will twist the lanes towards their advantage, then punish North America for every single mistake they make. It's not just about the mechanical skill difference (although it exists), Korea's metagame exploits the most obvious weak point in North American playstyle to a degree not equaled by any other regions.
TL+ Member
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
May 26 2013 04:04 GMT
#4449
2nd game will be closer, snowballing always makes the opposition look terrible
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 26 2013 04:04 GMT
#4450
On May 26 2013 13:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
People talk about Dyrus picking the wrong champ, but he was ironically the only one with anything going for him that game lol


To be fair Diana is probably one of the easiest champions to lane as in the game. Not to say that Ez/Lulu are bad laners either, Thresh is just OP and Double played retarded. But Diana is legit easy as hell to lane as.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4451
that was just painful for NA
Bronze player stuck in platinum
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4452
On May 26 2013 13:03 Letmelose wrote:
To be fair on North America, Korea abuses their greatest weakness. North America has a surprisingly competetent laning phase in a conventional setting (now defunct in Korea), but really struggles against the constant lane swaps and picking/understanding champions suited towards this new lane swap-heavy metagame Korea enjoys. It doesn't matter how strong they are, Korea will twist the lanes towards their advantage, then punish North America for every single mistake they make. It's not just about the mechanical skill difference (although it exists), Korea's metagame exploits the most obvious weak point in North American playstyle to a degree not equaled by any other regions.



I came here specificlly to read something like this after reading the twitch chat vomit. Thank you.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 04:06:11
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4453
On May 26 2013 12:58 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:57 necrosed wrote:
I think its nerves. They are making rookie mistakes and dying in lane to stuffthey shouldnt.


Korea is just a lot better.


They are better, but the players in the NA All-Star team are at a game knowledge level were they shouldn't simply DIE in lanes 1v1 or 2v2. Its LoL 1v1 - dont die.
Theyre nervous. While koreans are indeed very good, they're not on a laning level thats incredibly superior than NA (its asymptotic). The thing that defines koreans as better are their tactics and game presence.. Mechanically-wise as well in the odd player (InSec and Madlife, for instance).

I retort, nerves are getting in NA guys' ways.

That and what Letmelose said.
Shadow of his former self.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4454
imo, letting rumble kennen and zac get on one team spells disaster for whoever is facing them ._. not to mention madlife's thresh

also, NA picking comfort champs? they did say they didnt prepare much so idk...
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4455
On May 26 2013 13:03 Letmelose wrote:
To be fair on North America, Korea abuses their greatest weakness. North America has a surprisingly competetent laning phase in a conventional setting (now defunct in Korea), but really struggles against the constant lane swaps and picking/understanding champions suited towards this new lane swap-heavy metagame Korea enjoys. It doesn't matter how strong they are, Korea will twist the lanes towards their advantage, then punish North America for every single mistake they make. It's not just about the mechanical skill difference (although it exists), Korea's metagame exploits the most obvious weak point in North American playstyle to a degree not equaled by any other regions.


Very good post.
I feel that NA as a whole have never evolved to figuring out the Korean style of play (ever since Azubu Blaze at MLG). Certainly the NA style has changed but it's never quite been able to deal with Korea's more frenetic style of play.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4456
On May 26 2013 13:04 Dan HH wrote:
2nd game will be closer, snowballing always makes the opposition look terrible


Yes let us pray that its like at worlds where it was (TPA I think?) that got destroyed in game 1 then ended up winning the series.
Never Knows Best.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
May 26 2013 04:05 GMT
#4457
Will NA finally realize they have to ban Thresh??
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
May 26 2013 04:06 GMT
#4458
scarra getting smashed all tourney. Dlift smashed by madlifes thresh. Saint not in position to save his own red from Insec let alone help in a bad 3v2 in NA's own jungle. Shit man. You could spend 3 bans on madlife alone.
Need to pull off a more cohesive strategy than just Diana/Ryze GG
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
May 26 2013 04:06 GMT
#4459
On May 26 2013 13:05 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 13:04 Dan HH wrote:
2nd game will be closer, snowballing always makes the opposition look terrible


Yes let us pray that its like at worlds where it was (TPA I think?) that got destroyed in game 1 then ended up winning the series.

Let's not get carried away
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 26 2013 04:06 GMT
#4460
On May 26 2013 13:03 Letmelose wrote:
To be fair on North America, Korea abuses their greatest weakness. North America has a surprisingly competetent laning phase in a conventional setting (now defunct in Korea), but really struggles against the constant lane swaps and picking/understanding champions suited towards this new lane swap-heavy metagame Korea enjoys. It doesn't matter how strong they are, Korea will twist the lanes towards their advantage, then punish North America for every single mistake they make. It's not just about the mechanical skill difference (although it exists), Korea's metagame exploits the most obvious weak point in North American playstyle to a degree not equaled by any other regions.

Applause

Great analysis.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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