EPTIt was simply not worth it to snipe sOAZ/xPeke. They are incredibly well rounded yet don't have anything near Froggenivia/MisayaTF level.
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
It was simply not worth it to snipe sOAZ/xPeke. They are incredibly well rounded yet don't have anything near Froggenivia/MisayaTF level. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
imo clgeu shouldnt do lee mid ap top crap because not only can wickd not play ap champs, froggen still hogs all the farm on lee. pete always underfarmed no matter what happens during laning. idk that team needs to fix a lot of stuff. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:10 De4ngus wrote: wickd rumble build so trash. does the same retarded flat magic pen build every game. need to use your brain and build according to the situation lol. imo clgeu shouldnt do lee mid ap top crap because not only can wickd not play ap champs, froggen still hogs all the farm on lee. pete always underfarmed no matter what happens during laning. idk that team needs to fix a lot of stuff. So basically, you agree with dat yanger. npnpnp | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:10 De4ngus wrote: wickd rumble build so trash. does the same retarded flat magic pen build every game. need to use your brain and build according to the situation lol. imo clgeu shouldnt do lee mid ap top crap because not only can wickd not play ap champs, froggen still hogs all the farm on lee. pete always underfarmed no matter what happens during laning. idk that team needs to fix a lot of stuff. What build? His build seems fine. If anything that was truly questionable, it was krepo's zhonya on Zyra. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:41 Sufficiency wrote: What build? His build seems fine. If anything that was truly questionable, it was krepo's zhonya on Zyra. imo on support Zyra you want to die in team fights. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:32 NeoIllusions wrote: So basically, you agree with dat yanger. npnpnp i didnt see what the yanger said here but we talked about this stuff yesterday ya. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:41 Sufficiency wrote: What build? His build seems fine. If anything that was truly questionable, it was krepo's zhonya on Zyra. The only weird thing he did was that he went from double gp10 into zhonyas into deathcap. No zekes, no aegis, no reverie, nothing. That's the questionable part of it all tbh. By the time he had both major AP items, he had no %pen to make the real damage, and all the tanks had stacked shitloads of MR by that point. EDIT: Come to think about, i think he bought abyssal at some point closing into late game, and that's weird aswell, cus the mres aura is insignificant at that point. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
You don't stack pen when everyone on the other team is building for over 100 mr super early thanks to your team comp of 4 and a half sources of magic damage | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
Dlift's thoughts on IPL5 (and what kind of NA post event post would it be without some sort of excuse?) | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 04 2012 16:08 JBright wrote: http://www.facebook.com/CLGDoublelift/posts/389768567771113 Dlift's thoughts on IPL5 (and what kind of NA post event post would it be without some sort of excuse?) imo, they should be happy how well they performed. they showed na scene not quite the dead horse everyone thinks it is. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On December 04 2012 16:08 JBright wrote: http://www.facebook.com/CLGDoublelift/posts/389768567771113 Dlift's thoughts on IPL5 (and what kind of NA post event post would it be without some sort of excuse?) All we need is to make some changes and practice harder, considering we practiced next to nothing for IPL. summarizes the NA scene right there we can compete if we practice more being all talk, no action | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
Then they dont by favoring to stream soloQ instead, again, and again, and again Y U NO PRACTICE?! | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:06 udgnim wrote: summarizes the NA scene right there we can compete if we practice more being all talk, no action The worst part is that CLG.na got really lucky with the draw and made it as far as they would've been expected to anyway pre-tournament, given their match-ups. That is, they got placed highly solely because of their draw and could have easily been placed like TSM did if they had TSM's draw. I'm a huge CLG.na and CLG.eu fan, but neither team were impressive at all at IPL5, and were probably equal to many of the teams that got placed below them. My point is, even if CLG.na practises like crazy for the next tournament, they could easily "underperform" by getting a hard draw again and their bravado will get jumped on by the community, followed up by more excuses. CLG.na is quite a big deal behind M5, TPA, Fnatic, WE and several Korean teams, and practising a bit more for a short period won't visibly change anything. Having said all that, I think CLG.na is still the NA team with the highest potential of all current NA teams, and with a couple roster changes, a better practice environment and sustained dedication, they can ascend to the level of the world class teams. I consider CLG.eu the Grubby line of the teams who are truly world class and CLG.na has always been consistently just below it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Also, IE into PD in Fnatic vs. TPA on Ezreal made it so Cait really could never outscale him, even if the games were pretty short. Too bad this comment is now 50% irrelevant. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
Their biggest (and only) problem is hotshot, he owns the team, he's bad and washed up, all other players performed great. Chauster's level in the jungle is impressive considering the number of times he had to switch his "main role" and the little amount of practice time he had. I thought jiji was as washed up as hotshot and it turned out he performed very well too. Botlane is still a huge question mark sinergy-wise but i'm quite sure everyone will agree that both players are very talented skill-wise, again practice should make a very strong botlane and in this tournament they performed OK. The thing I'm not sure about is : will they actually practice ? or will hotshot lose top lane every game and then bench loco because it's his fault ? | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:47 RouaF wrote: Tbh CLG.NA didn't do that bad. Yes they had an easy bracket but when they played the big teams they didn't get completely destroyed (from what I can remember). I'm clearly not a fan of any NA team but I can recognize potential in CLG.NA, this would be even more true if they REALLY didn't practice (not sure it's true but w/e). Their biggest (and only) problem is hotshot, he owns the team, he's bad and washed up, all other players performed great. Chauster's level in the jungle is impressive considering the number of times he had to switch his "main role" and the little amount of practice time he had. I thought jiji was as washed up as hotshot and it turned out he performed very well too. Botlane is still a huge question mark sinergy-wise but i'm quite sure everyone will agree that both players are very talented skill-wise, again practice should make a very strong botlane and in this tournament they performed OK. The thing I'm not sure about is : will they actually practice ? or will hotshot lose top lane every game and then bench loco because it's his fault ? Yes, CLG.na did do well imo. I always believed they had potential, and they showed in glimpses, especially against Fnatic and against M5. Even so, they were outplayed by Fnatic and M5 in the later games once they acclimatised to CLG.na's style. CLG.na were quite unpolished at IPL5 (due to lack of practice perhaps) but their potential can be so much higher by replacing HotshotGG with a disciplined Voyboy and Locodoco with Link115 for example. Despite all the good coming from CLG.na, I don't think they are so far ahead of the other NA and EU teams below the CLG.eu line that they can consistently place above them. CLG.na's performances are very draw luck-dependent because they're in that unpredictable zone between good and great. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On December 04 2012 09:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Wickd build is horrible I mentioned it earlier in this thread You don't stack pen when everyone on the other team is building for over 100 mr super early thanks to your team comp of 4 and a half sources of magic damage There was a game I played where the Diana on my team went haunting guise like 30 minutes into the game instead of building AP in a similar situation (except everyone had like 130 MR save the ADC). It's like really? Everyone has so much MR, you can't see the folly in stacking magic pen blindly? When I pointed this out as being a contributing factor as to why we lost, someone on the enemy team was like "guise is good on Diana!" Yeah, the extra magic pen goes so far when you have 150 AP against a team stacking MR. "What's good some of the time must be good all the time!" | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:47 RouaF wrote: Tbh CLG.NA didn't do that bad. Yes they had an easy bracket but when they played the big teams they didn't get completely destroyed (from what I can remember). I'm clearly not a fan of any NA team but I can recognize potential in CLG.NA, this would be even more true if they REALLY didn't practice (not sure it's true but w/e). Their biggest (and only) problem is hotshot, he owns the team, he's bad and washed up, all other players performed great. Chauster's level in the jungle is impressive considering the number of times he had to switch his "main role" and the little amount of practice time he had. I thought jiji was as washed up as hotshot and it turned out he performed very well too. Botlane is still a huge question mark sinergy-wise but i'm quite sure everyone will agree that both players are very talented skill-wise, again practice should make a very strong botlane and in this tournament they performed OK. The thing I'm not sure about is : will they actually practice ? or will hotshot lose top lane every game and then bench loco because it's his fault ? Sup. Called it :D. | ||
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