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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 10 2012 16:00 GMT
#12281
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?

Because that series is over and Frost won convincingly.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 10 2012 16:01 GMT
#12282
Any updates or news on using booths and or adjustments to the stage?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
October 10 2012 16:03 GMT
#12283
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?


Because TSM lost fair and square?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
October 10 2012 16:04 GMT
#12284
On October 11 2012 01:01 amazingxkcd wrote:
Any updates or news on using booths and or adjustments to the stage?


Different venue now and i assume for the finals (which are also different) they will fix things.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 10 2012 16:10 GMT
#12285
On October 11 2012 01:04 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:01 amazingxkcd wrote:
Any updates or news on using booths and or adjustments to the stage?


Different venue now and i assume for the finals (which are also different) they will fix things.

From what I read the teams will be seperated and there will be no possible interaction between them at all
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 16:29:03
October 10 2012 16:11 GMT
#12286
wrong thread lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14161 Posts
October 10 2012 16:14 GMT
#12287
they've said that they're setting the teams up far away from eachother in the back of the stage where they can't see eachother. They'll havn't really said much about other languages or what they're going to do about cameras and stuff. I guess we'll see in a few hours when it starts.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
October 10 2012 16:33 GMT
#12288
On October 10 2012 22:52 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 22:49 seanisgrand wrote:
This tournament is a nightmare. Total trainwreck.


go back to dota 2 please.


Don't insult Dota 2 because he didn't bring it up.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2012 17:35 GMT
#12289


Chauster's vlog about CLG.na performance. Explains their lost more. Chau bringing out the truth!
liftlift > tsm
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
October 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#12290
On October 11 2012 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?


Because TSM lost fair and square?


he's talking about the part where azubu cheated by looking at the big screen and riot was "investigating" it.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2012 17:56 GMT
#12291
On October 11 2012 02:51 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?


Because TSM lost fair and square?


he's talking about the part where azubu cheated by looking at the big screen and riot was "investigating" it.

Hmmm, no one on TL is making a fuss that Frost cheated, but everyone on Reddit pretty much thinks they did. I'm confused, is there any strength to teh claim that Frost cheated, other than head tilt?
liftlift > tsm
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
October 10 2012 17:59 GMT
#12292
On October 11 2012 02:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 02:51 Perplex wrote:
On October 11 2012 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?


Because TSM lost fair and square?


he's talking about the part where azubu cheated by looking at the big screen and riot was "investigating" it.

Hmmm, no one on TL is making a fuss that Frost cheated, but everyone on Reddit pretty much thinks they did. I'm confused, is there any strength to teh claim that Frost cheated, other than head tilt?

Apparently the frost player pinged blindly on the mini map where TSM was after he supposedly looked at the screen
Jaedong :D
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 10 2012 18:25 GMT
#12293
On October 11 2012 02:59 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 02:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 11 2012 02:51 Perplex wrote:
On October 11 2012 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:58 Cubu wrote:
So, how come they are not restarting the TSM vs Frost match?


Because TSM lost fair and square?


he's talking about the part where azubu cheated by looking at the big screen and riot was "investigating" it.

Hmmm, no one on TL is making a fuss that Frost cheated, but everyone on Reddit pretty much thinks they did. I'm confused, is there any strength to teh claim that Frost cheated, other than head tilt?

Apparently the frost player pinged blindly on the mini map where TSM was after he supposedly looked at the screen


And apparently that fight determined the whole series
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 10 2012 18:27 GMT
#12294
On October 10 2012 23:07 Sermokala wrote:
Only 1 bo3 gets effected by technical difficulties and the whole event turns into a train wreck? then what would you call all the sc2 events that have had lag and disconnect problems let alone the ones that have any major technical problems.

The thing is, Riot marketed this tournament in such a way that the only tournament people will ever compare this to is TI2. The prize pool, the attitude of the promo video, all of it screams "we want to one-up Valve". And unfortunately, even if there were no problems on day 3, the production would still be 100% worse than TI2 in every regard (except for having translators).

It's unfortunate, but that's the level of hype Riot built going into this, and they haven't been able to live up to it.
Moderator
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 18:32:59
October 10 2012 18:32 GMT
#12295
On October 11 2012 03:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:07 Sermokala wrote:
Only 1 bo3 gets effected by technical difficulties and the whole event turns into a train wreck? then what would you call all the sc2 events that have had lag and disconnect problems let alone the ones that have any major technical problems.

The thing is, Riot marketed this tournament in such a way that the only tournament people will ever compare this to is TI2. The prize pool, the attitude of the promo video, all of it screams "we want to one-up Valve". And unfortunately, even if there were no problems on day 3, the production would still be 100% worse than TI2 in every regard (except for having translators).

It's unfortunate, but that's the level of hype Riot built going into this, and they haven't been able to live up to it.


And then theres the 2 day delay, delays because of the sun (!?), alleged cheating, awful format and terrible commentators (that last one is just a personal opinion of course)
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 18:42:12
October 10 2012 18:41 GMT
#12296
Personally, the thing to to me is that it just feels like Riot didn't try as hard as Valve when it came to making this the best tournament in the world. If Riot put in all the effort Valve did, and some unfortunate events made them fall short, then I could forgive them. But it's very clear that Riot did not invest as much effort into running the World Championships as Valve did. Let's look at the facts here:

- Two weeks before TI2, Valve effectively went to development standstill to prepare for TI2. The last patch before TI2 was 2 weeks before the event, and development effectively stalled through TI2, as there was no patch for a similar length of time after the event was over. What's more, this patch was a content-less bugfix patch, meaning that it's likely a lot of the designers/artists that had no content to produce were already shifting into TI2 work before the patch. For the period of two weeks leading up to TI2, THE ENTIRE STUDIO was devoted to running the event.

- Kha'zix patch was released 1 week before World Championships. What's more, this was a full-blown content patch, using the work of the studio as normal to develop. There was effectively no transition into working on on Worlds. What's more, Ezreal made a Twitter post on developing a new AD carry the Monday after the event--indicating a business-as-usual Monday for most of the company after this weekend. You have the biggest fiasco in E-sports history on your hands--HOW ARE YOU NOT DEVOTING THE ENTIRE STUDIO TO FIX THIS?

Valve--ALL of Valve--put their hearts and souls into making TI2 work. Riot feels like the E-sports department did the work itself (with some contracted-out manpower), and for the most part the rest of the company didn't really give a damn and just continued business as usual.
Moderator
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
October 10 2012 18:50 GMT
#12297
On October 11 2012 02:35 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_0YJO6zFc

Chauster's vlog about CLG.na performance. Explains their lost more. Chau bringing out the truth!


Im sorry but i cant help but shake my head at this video.
They had a cheese strat that worked on Blue side. Thats fine, nothing wrong with it.
They then changed it for purple without trying. But this was during Group play. why try something untested if your in group play. Its the sort of move you make when your desperate. not for the first 2 games of your tournament
He talks about how they were very confident but this is CLG.US right? The team that everyone wrote off because they were spamming soloQ 8 hours a day as a minimum. Look at iG, Azubu, Najin, these are confident teams that didnt spam soloQ as practice.

I know Chau might mean well but this just once again shows me how underdeveloped the US LoL scene really is.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2012 18:51 GMT
#12298
Chaus blames the lost on themselves, manning it up.
liftlift > tsm
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
October 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#12299
On October 11 2012 03:41 TheYango wrote:
HOW ARE YOU NOT DEVOTING THE ENTIRE STUDIO TO FIX THIS?

How is a champion designer related to event planning and what does it matter if he is doing the job he was paid for.
If I have warehouse workers but im planning an event to show off my products I don't bring the guy who drives a forklift and expect him to magically make my event better.
If you really think that a complete halt in the studio would of been a better solution, then show me what TI2 champion (or balance) designer did to impact a event unrelated to his job.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
October 10 2012 18:54 GMT
#12300
On October 10 2012 23:07 Sermokala wrote:
Only 1 bo3 gets effected by technical difficulties and the whole event turns into a train wreck? then what would you call all the sc2 events that have had lag and disconnect problems let alone the ones that have any major technical problems.


Id say the whole tournament schedule was affected xD
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