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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 15:13 GMT
#3761
If I was TSM going into bans & picks:

Force shyv to be in jungle, not top lane.
Put TRM on something he actually PLAYS
Laugh as M5 feeds a free bottom lane win with shitty support picks
Hope to hell that regi hits cass ults
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3762
On January 23 2012 00:11 DR.Ham wrote:
As a complete noob to LOL, it seems to me that so much of the game is dependent upon who collects the early buffs and then levels quickly using those, or is that complete rubbish?

it depends on the matchup and champs involved tbh.

in this particular game, TSM giving cassiopeia the very first blue was very crucial in that Mordekaiser has a ridiculously weak early game from levels 1-3. Cassiopeia has amazing harass, but her mana costs can become somewhat prohibitive if she's constantly spamming. Giving up blue allowed Cass to abuse Morde and win that lane very easily. However, the drawback is that Lee sin loses out a TON of early exp/gold. If you noticed, TSM's Lee sin basically did not gank much at all for the early game in comparison to m5's lee sin in game 1.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3763
On January 23 2012 00:13 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Realistically though, it needs to be someone aggressive and suits Regi's style. Xerath? Ahri? ...Vlad?

Or is it just mindgames?


If I had a choice, Regi should learn Ahri.
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Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3764
On January 23 2012 00:12 N1mrod wrote:
I am a bit disappointed, that nearly all LoL matches I have seen recently were roflstomp matches. I like long, even games a lot more :/

Ye, I really think LoL snowballs too hard at pro level. People don't make stupid mistakes when ahead, and thereby games are often decided on first dragon, followed by 20-30 mins safe play into win.
But first game of this serious, omfg.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3765
Vlad would be interesting
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3766
Don't care who wins, just want an awesome game.
Zero fighting.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#3767
On January 23 2012 00:12 N1mrod wrote:
I am a bit disappointed, that nearly all LoL matches I have seen recently were roflstomp matches. I like long, even games a lot more :/


Have any of the games actually had comeback victories after one team got ahead? I guess you could count third place match game 2, but that was pretty ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3768
Regi waiting for that Cass ban to pull out the secret weapon.

Kennen!
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3769
Cass ban!! :O
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3770
On January 23 2012 00:14 Papvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:12 N1mrod wrote:
I am a bit disappointed, that nearly all LoL matches I have seen recently were roflstomp matches. I like long, even games a lot more :/

Ye, I really think LoL snowballs too hard at pro level. People don't make stupid mistakes when ahead, and thereby games are often decided on first dragon, followed by 20-30 mins safe play into win.
But first game of this serious, omfg.


The first game was pretty close till ~20min.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 15:15:56
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3771
M5 being smart. No more Cass.

Alex on Karthus. Scary.

nevermind, it's Regi now.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3772
Bans:

M5 (first): Rammus Cass LB
TSM: Ryze GP Galio
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3773
Cass ban makes it interesting.
currently rooting for myself.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3774
On January 23 2012 00:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:14 Papvin wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:12 N1mrod wrote:
I am a bit disappointed, that nearly all LoL matches I have seen recently were roflstomp matches. I like long, even games a lot more :/

Ye, I really think LoL snowballs too hard at pro level. People don't make stupid mistakes when ahead, and thereby games are often decided on first dragon, followed by 20-30 mins safe play into win.
But first game of this serious, omfg.


The first game was pretty close till ~20min.

Well, it was only like what, a 1k gold lead until then? And even that had a big affect on the fight at dragon.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3775
M5 steals Sona lol
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LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3776
Watch the Millenium stream muted with either the English or Dyrus commentary. Millenium is 720p and the time is only like a second off.
Anything is Possible
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3777
Karth...boring.
#freeshauni
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 15:16:14
January 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#3778
M5 Bans: Rammy, CassiOPeia, LeBlanc
TSM Bans: Ryze, Gangplank, Galio

M5 Picks: MIKUSONASTILLFIRSTPICKYALL,
TSM Picks: Lee Sin, Karthus,
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 22 2012 15:16 GMT
#3779
oh man... is it jsut me or is the sona pickup by m5 kinda bad on their part :O
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 15:16 GMT
#3780
TSM responds with Karth
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