EPTOn January 22 2012 00:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
So, who would we (TL) ban vs M5? :O :O
So, who would we (TL) ban vs M5? :O :O
Ban down one complete lane, force M5 into picking something and kill that lane. I don't think scatterbans will work.
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Ban down one complete lane, force M5 into picking something and kill that lane. I don't think scatterbans will work. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:21 NeoIllusions wrote: I think SK is one of those teams that are visably bad at Picks and Bans... If you listen to them while they play their scrims, it shows how bad they are tactics wise. Its quite embarrassing, they dont think about team synergy AT ALL, they are just stuck in lane phase with their mind, and so limited at that (e.g. Oce) | ||
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Lylat
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Chiharu Harukaze
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GP, MF and Taric steal SK Wraiths and Red. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: If both teams go steal the enemy blue it's just like taking your own though. If you don't send your whole team to counterjungle you're taking a huge risk because they can easily outnumber you and crush you. You'd still likely get your own blue, but if you lose somebody to the invasion then you're still behind. If there was some mutual agreement to have two small skirmishes for the blues then I could see it happening, but I don't think it's worth the risk. My point is that we've never see games where a team tries to coordinate a 2nd Blue steal when it's common knowledge the timings for it. I understand the risk but that's why it'd pay off for the more coordinated team. If it became a trend for a bit to steal enemy 2nd Blue, I could further see why teams would resort back to just taking their own Blue. The crux argument is why pro teams aren't taking the initiative to be more aggressive and coordinate and build up a early/mid game adv. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:23 Senx wrote: I like SKs chances alot more this time around. Picks are alot better imo. Lets see how it goes. Overall it doesnt seem bad to me either. But why Renekton? He falls off so hard late game. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:26 Redox wrote: Overall it doesnt seem bad to me either. But why Renekton? He falls off so hard late game. early game is their problem though :o | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:26 Redox wrote: Overall it doesnt seem bad to me either. But why Renekton? He falls off so hard late game. Renek is a weird pick... very bad pick tbh. Renek is viable just has certain points in the game where he's not as solid. Like LaNague said, picking Renek before enemy team shows their Top Lane pick is flat out stupid move during Picks/Bans. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:26 NeoIllusions wrote: My point is that we've never see games where a team tries to coordinate a 2nd Blue steal when it's common knowledge the timings for it. I understand the risk but that's why it'd pay off for the more coordinated team. If it became a trend for a bit to steal enemy 2nd Blue, I could further see why teams would resort back to just taking their own Blue. The crux argument is why pro teams aren't taking the initiative to be more aggressive and coordinate and build up a early/mid game adv. Because if you screw it up they're going to get a free dragon or you're going to get behind if nothing else. I think the risk doesn't warrant the reward, but I'm probably the safest player in league of legends ^_^ Farm at turret all day. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:23 NeoIllusions wrote: So, who would we (TL) ban vs M5? :O :O I would "waste" that 1 ban on shyv simply because of how fast she is now and diamond likes that early oracles. After a few clears, SK is gonna be blind on the map. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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GP kills Renek straight up top lane. Keeps pushing hard for creep advantage. Those million pots paying off. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:29 daemir wrote: I would "waste" that 1 ban on shyv simply because of how fast she is now and diamond likes that early oracles. After a few clears, SK is gonna be blind on the map. +1 this. I'd ban Shy simply because how "comfortable" Diamond is getting with her at this tournament. It might not be possible to ban out Diamond but you don't ever want player getting into "the zone". | ||
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