EPTlol yeah his mordekaiser play was a bit off but his garen has been disgusting
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pirates
United States701 Posts
lol yeah his mordekaiser play was a bit off but his garen has been disgusting | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
scary garen play for sure from him | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
SK and CLG should either try to do the same thing or even better pick safe lanes and build a team for late game. They don't need to pick lanes that will win or dominate, they just need lanes where they can farm safely and then not get themselves ganked. Will be interesting to see if SK/CLG can run a safe team. I'd like to see what happens with CN vs. Westerners when the Chinese teams don't get the kills and dominance they like early game. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:29 d(O.o)a wrote: Why do you say this, it wasn't the akali pick that lost them the game. I say this because in about 90% of the games I have ever seen Ocelot play Akali he loses them because the enemy team either 1) Counter-Picks him. or 2) Shuts him down so hard that he's down 50+ CS at 20 minutes or has x/4+/y by 20 minutes. Last game, no the Akali pick didn't matter, but if they had a Traditional AP pick instead of the akali like say Annie or Brand (i think orhi was banned? I'll check in a sec) that there team fight would have been much much better and more than likely brought them back into the game when they almost evened it at about 15 minutes. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:31 Cixah wrote: I say this because in about 90% of the games I have ever seen Ocelot play Akali he loses them because the enemy team either 1) Counter-Picks him. or 2) Shuts him down so hard that he's down 50+ CS at 20 minutes or has x/4+/y by 20 minutes. Last game, no the Akali pick didn't matter, but if they had a Traditional AP pick instead of the akali like say Annie or Brand (i think orhi was banned? I'll check in a sec) that there team fight would have been much much better and more than likely brought them back into the game when they almost evened it at about 15 minutes. That's such a baseless statement, they were so far behind and have you ever tried laning as brand or annie vs. a fed karthus? It's not a very nice feeling. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
eHOME Bans: CassiOPeia, Morgana, Rumble Ele: "I'm glad Chinese teams are picking it up and giving us competition. I like competition." | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:33 d(O.o)a wrote: [That's such a baseless statement, they were so far behind and have you ever tried laning as brand or annie vs. a fed karthus? It's not a very nice feeling. But Akali has a better time vs a fed Karthus? You are right in the sense that it might have been mostly irrelivant, but how does akali farm at ALL if the Karthus has the lane control he had? Even just being brand allows him to get 3-5 of the CS AND trade with Karthus much better than akali could have pre 6. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:33 d(O.o)a wrote: That's such a baseless statement, they were so far behind and have you ever tried laning as brand or annie vs. a fed karthus? It's not a very nice feeling. and why did they get behind? because akali got greedy and flashed into all five and gave up first blood. Ocelot does not play smart when he's on akali. | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
Plus he would have been totally useless in teamfights anyway. And vs CLG Cho just shat on him in every single team fight. | ||
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:33 d(O.o)a wrote: That's such a baseless statement, they were so far behind and have you ever tried laning as brand or annie vs. a fed karthus? It's not a very nice feeling. Not really. The reality is that Annie's AoE engage and Brand's laning potential is bar none. He might still lose his lane, but ... I mean, he might be the best laning phase mage in the game. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:31 overt wrote: The Chinese teams all seem to play the same. Get really aggressive, gank like crazy, dominate early game so the other team is way behind when/if it gets to late game. SK and CLG should either try to do the same thing or even better pick safe lanes and build a team for late game. They don't need to pick lanes that will win or dominate, they just need lanes where they can farm safely and then not get themselves ganked. Will be interesting to see if SK/CLG can run a safe team. I'd like to see what happens with CN vs. Westerners when the Chinese teams don't get the kills and dominance they like early game. Yeah, they pretty much all play the "full pressure gank" strategy, which as someone said yesterday is ironic because in Dota it's the opposite - it's the Western teams that play "full pressure gank" and the Chinese teams who play safe. I'd like to see a good, safe, late-game strategy from SK or CLG. They should have the experience advantage there over Chinese teams. So, as they say in SC 2, they should be looking to drag it to the late-game. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:35 Cixah wrote: But Akali has a better time vs a fed Karthus? You are right in the sense that it might have been mostly irrelivant, but how does akali farm at ALL if the Karthus has the lane control he had? Even just being brand allows him to get 3-5 of the CS AND trade with Karthus much better than akali could have pre 6. Once akali gets 6 she wins the lane even if she is stupidly far behind. On October 05 2011 12:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: and why did they get behind? because akali got greedy and flashed into all five and gave up first blood. Ocelot does not play smart when he's on akali. I'm sorry but this is so illogical it frustrates me, If he did it on Akali he would do it on brand too. It was a mistake on his part, the champion didn't put bloodlust into him. | ||
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United States3803 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
eHOME Bans: CassiOPeia, Morgana, Rumble SK Picks: Galio, Urgot, Nocturne, Brand, Janna eHOME Picks: GP, Sona, Vayne, Gragas, Lee Sin Zenon: "Brand is like Annie 2.0, right?" Ele: "Well, not really... Annie is more burst initiation, while Brand is more burst dps. If you have a good initiaite, his ult does so much." Ele: "They have... Vayne, Gragas and Lee Sin...? That's a lot of knock back. Super surprised they didn't take Janna... Maybe their support player dislikes Janna. It's why CLG never runs Amumu. SaintV just doesn't like Amumu." | ||
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United States3803 Posts
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Zenon: "Lee Sin is top lane. Would you rather have him top or jungle?" Ele: "Lee Sin is very good top lane. You can get kills and-" *stream dies on me* | ||
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