EPT[TL R&D] T.R.O.L.L.S. - Page 13
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
yi kha trist kat | ||
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Simberto
Germany11952 Posts
If you manage to kill any enemy, you just won the teamfight. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14187 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Soniv and I tested Nasus + Ad extensively, though I'm not really sure how accurate results are given skill levels and whatnot. I'll do a full write-up later, but for now, all you need to know is it's hella fun, and people don't expect it to be as strong as it is.... Edit: i forgot! You guys can see for yourselves and make your own judgements! http://www.twitch.tv/tlcastinggolems/b/358038921 | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Apparently the main group did Nasus/Garen as a dunk lane but it didn't work for whatever reason. Soniv and I tested Nasus + Ad extensively, though I'm not really sure how accurate results are given skill levels and whatnot. I'll do a full write-up later, but for now, all you need to know is it's hella fun, and people don't expect it to be as strong as it is.... Edit: i forgot! You guys can see for yourselves and make your own judgements! http://www.twitch.tv/tlcastinggolems/b/358038921 I havent looked at it yet because of IEM but I tried some things in aram and it was pretty good. People were like "why nasus he is bad" but after the game "nasus is good, or way better than i thought" | ||
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Simberto
Germany11952 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:41 Simberto wrote: Everything works in arams, because the average aramer is incredibly bad. in Korea the arams gamer are actually pretty good. Many people play only this mode. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Apparently the main group did Nasus/Garen as a dunk lane but it didn't work for whatever reason. Soniv and I tested Nasus + Ad extensively, though I'm not really sure how accurate results are given skill levels and whatnot. I'll do a full write-up later, but for now, all you need to know is it's hella fun, and people don't expect it to be as strong as it is.... Edit: i forgot! You guys can see for yourselves and make your own judgements! http://www.twitch.tv/tlcastinggolems/b/358038921 Is that the Trist/Nasus session? Saw it live (and Soniv Trist-ulting Elise into your tower right after you made it out just so he can get a double at the cost of your life D: bad Soniv), even though it was a pretty unorthodox bot lane (hey, you could say they tried a kill lane too!) and the skill gap was obvious, a high-level wither was actually surprisingly strong on providing survivability against opponents without a solid spell burst (or once you survived said burst). This also probably means the lane's pretty weak against stuff like Taric and Leona early on (and Urgot no care about no AS debuffs, too. Dude's going to be FotM soon, even without the drafts to support him). Edit: about AD-less comps/kill lanes: What about using lane swaps for this? Some of us theorized that Nami's kit would fit a melee+support meta better than ranged+support (easier bounces on W, less poke taken for her, E makes more sense on a melee with a gapcloser to stick... ), so going top with Nami+melee champ benefitting from farm as much as/rather than levels, and using a champion able to 1v2 bot (ranged or melee, doesn't matter, though ranged champs would still help in taking towers). Maybe Jayce could be used with Nami too, so you still have range, a champion scaling well with farm, and the ability to go melee for easy bounces. Thresh's range makes it seem like he'd be more at ease with melee lanes than ranged lanes too. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14187 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:10 Chexx wrote: Did somebody of you already try Nasus Support? I was forced to do it first time in a ranked game (long story guy only had half a dozen champs and got counter picked top) was varus nasus (me) vs cow mf. really the cow couldn't do anything to me and mf got gimped so hard by wither it wasn't even funny. When you ult you can't die and to heal up you can just swat at the minions when its safe. pretty good I think. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11952 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11952 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
The problem is that Nasus + Garen specifically does not work that well. Nasus support + AD carry would be better (wither trades, wither + exhaust chain for complete lockdown) The problem is we shoved Nasus "support" into the segment of AD-less teamcomps and Kill-lanes, where he just doesn't do as much. Then paired him with another guy with no real gapcloser. Nasus support + ADC should be tested instead. Results are predicted to be better. I did note that we should not test too many things at once. Too many conflicting factors, too hard to pin the "problem" down. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 20 2013 06:18 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Serious discussion about lanemumu and no jungle trilane bruisers bot I feel like the usual criticism I hear against no jungle is that your jungle is too open to invades and you give up too many buffs to your enemy, and that in a trilane you're splitting too much experience/gold so be effective. I guess the buff thing could be countered with good warding. I guess if you crush bot lane hard enough you could push down the tower and just roam and farm your own jungle. I'd love to try it sometime. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
1/16/13 (1/26/3 is possible too with gp10 quints) , heal/exhaust QWEEERE (R>E>W>Q) hp quints (aggressive) / gp10 quints (passive) , armor yellows, MR blues, ad/armorpen reds doran shield (for poke heavy bot, otherwise start flask) > flask > sightstone> aegis/locket/zeke's use ult , hit E, heal right, exhaust something, win games | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On January 20 2013 06:18 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Serious discussion about lanemumu and no jungle trilane bruisers bot Sunfire/abyssal lanemumu is very very strong. His problem is he has alot of bad matchups top, which will just stomp him, but if he can be even/win lane hes amazing. | ||
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