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[Patch 12.3] Bruiser Item Adjustments Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 02 2022 02:19 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 12.3: Live on Feb. 2, 2022

Team Fight Tactics Patch 12.3 Live on Feb. 2, 2022

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Patch 12.1 The 2022 Ranked Season Begins
Patch 11.24 Debonair Skin Set General Discussion
Patch 11.23 Preseason Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.21 Dragon Skin Line General Discussion
Patch 11.20 Betwitching Skins General Discussion
Patch 11.19 Vex Champion Release General Discussion
Patch 11.18 Worlds Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.17 Pentakill Returns
Patch 11.16 Coven & Old Gods General Discussion
Patch 11.15 Akshan Release General Discussion
Patch 11.12 Dr. Mundo Rework General Discussion
Patch 11.10 Arcana Skins General Discussion
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Patch 11.4 Jungle Gets Nerfed (Again) General Discussion
Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion]Patch 11.3 Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion
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Que Sera Sera
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 02 2022 02:20 GMT
#2
New Champ Trailer came out:

Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 02 2022 06:50 GMT
#3
I complained about Akshan and Chem Soul revive, so I don't even know what to say anymore. Riot seems hell bent on adding numerous revive mechanics to the game, this isn't even power creep anymore, it's just flat out rewriting game mechanics.

Cool champ, just excessive.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
February 02 2022 09:35 GMT
#4
[Patch 12.3] Bruiser Item Adjustments Hard Nerfs Discussion - Let me fix this for you xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6185 Posts
February 02 2022 12:23 GMT
#5
TFT set 6.5 is live on PBE !!
n_n
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-03 18:50:50
February 03 2022 18:26 GMT
#6
On February 02 2022 15:50 DarkCore wrote:
I complained about Akshan and Chem Soul revive, so I don't even know what to say anymore. Riot seems hell bent on adding numerous revive mechanics to the game, this isn't even power creep anymore, it's just flat out rewriting game mechanics.

Cool champ, just excessive.

The revive mechanics are how Riot address the damage creep. She looks pretty fun, but I am honestly quite concerned about how it open for perma tower dives from level 3 and onwards.

On February 02 2022 18:35 M2 wrote:
[Patch 12.3] Bruiser Item Adjustments Hard Nerfs Discussion - Let me fix this for you xD

Bruiser vs Bruiser lanes are going to be even more snowbally, less health more damage on all their core items? At least they might be squishier than tanks now.

Maw and Death Dance on Jhin looks pretty flippin hilarious.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 03 2022 19:49 GMT
#7
On the flip side, TF is experiencing hilariously low winrates right now (42% lol). He's gotten the LB/Ryze treatment, hard nerfs to balance him for competitive while turning him into an auto lose champ in soloQ.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 07 2022 23:22 GMT
#8
On February 04 2022 03:26 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2022 15:50 DarkCore wrote:
I complained about Akshan and Chem Soul revive, so I don't even know what to say anymore. Riot seems hell bent on adding numerous revive mechanics to the game, this isn't even power creep anymore, it's just flat out rewriting game mechanics.

Cool champ, just excessive.

The revive mechanics are how Riot address the damage creep. She looks pretty fun, but I am honestly quite concerned about how it open for perma tower dives from level 3 and onwards.

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2022 18:35 M2 wrote:
[Patch 12.3] Bruiser Item Adjustments Hard Nerfs Discussion - Let me fix this for you xD

Bruiser vs Bruiser lanes are going to be even more snowbally, less health more damage on all their core items? At least they might be squishier than tanks now.

Maw and Death Dance on Jhin looks pretty flippin hilarious.


A most confusing way to deal with this for sure.
Freeeeeeedom
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-09 16:26:29
February 09 2022 16:24 GMT
#9
On February 08 2022 08:22 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2022 03:26 Jek wrote:
On February 02 2022 15:50 DarkCore wrote:
I complained about Akshan and Chem Soul revive, so I don't even know what to say anymore. Riot seems hell bent on adding numerous revive mechanics to the game, this isn't even power creep anymore, it's just flat out rewriting game mechanics.

Cool champ, just excessive.

The revive mechanics are how Riot address the damage creep. She looks pretty fun, but I am honestly quite concerned about how it open for perma tower dives from level 3 and onwards.

On February 02 2022 18:35 M2 wrote:
[Patch 12.3] Bruiser Item Adjustments Hard Nerfs Discussion - Let me fix this for you xD

Bruiser vs Bruiser lanes are going to be even more snowbally, less health more damage on all their core items? At least they might be squishier than tanks now.

Maw and Death Dance on Jhin looks pretty flippin hilarious.


A most confusing way to deal with this for sure.

Riot amped up the damage because people like killing people in fast and flashy. They can now combat it by forcing players to kill someone in flashy ways twice or do it once and then die a flashy way. Double the flashiness! Sheer genius.

Truly a galaxy brain choice for Riot to give assassins enough damage to oneshot without ultimate, thanks to Renata they are now required to use it when killing squishies!
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 09 2022 16:29 GMT
#10
Can't wait for a champion ability to apply 'true death', which prevents revives. Or an item that you can buy to instantly revive (or is that too close to DOTA?)
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
February 09 2022 22:12 GMT
#11
Crown is a bullshit item and Zeri is a bullshit champion. It shouldn't be possibly to get quadras en pentas with a champion every time its played, but here we are..
Taxes are for Terrans
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8918 Posts
February 10 2022 01:18 GMT
#12
On February 10 2022 01:29 DarkCore wrote:
Can't wait for a champion ability to apply 'true death', which prevents revives. Or an item that you can buy to instantly revive (or is that too close to DOTA?)

ive always thought buy back would be a good addition to the game. lol is still fast enough that realistically youre only going to be able/want to buy back once in a game, so the game wont suffer from being dragged out forever like dota is now. with how strong champions are late game, especially with things like elder, one death is enough to instantly lose you the game. the amount of times a good game suddenly comes to an anticlimactic end because one guy gets randomly picked off is too high and makes for a pretty lame experience because you would much rather see victories on the back of a 5v5 fight
arlomax
Profile Joined February 2022
6 Posts
February 10 2022 11:50 GMT
#13
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 10 2022 23:05 GMT
#14
On February 10 2022 10:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2022 01:29 DarkCore wrote:
Can't wait for a champion ability to apply 'true death', which prevents revives. Or an item that you can buy to instantly revive (or is that too close to DOTA?)

ive always thought buy back would be a good addition to the game. lol is still fast enough that realistically youre only going to be able/want to buy back once in a game, so the game wont suffer from being dragged out forever like dota is now. with how strong champions are late game, especially with things like elder, one death is enough to instantly lose you the game. the amount of times a good game suddenly comes to an anticlimactic end because one guy gets randomly picked off is too high and makes for a pretty lame experience because you would much rather see victories on the back of a 5v5 fight

But then what about the super exciting moments like Akshan's revive?

(Like that LCS game where a kill barely obtained at the last second revived their team's jungler and gave a free elder as a result.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8918 Posts
February 11 2022 07:06 GMT
#15
i dont understand how riot thought of champions reviving other champions before a buy back mechanic
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 11 2022 07:44 GMT
#16
On February 11 2022 08:05 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2022 10:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On February 10 2022 01:29 DarkCore wrote:
Can't wait for a champion ability to apply 'true death', which prevents revives. Or an item that you can buy to instantly revive (or is that too close to DOTA?)

ive always thought buy back would be a good addition to the game. lol is still fast enough that realistically youre only going to be able/want to buy back once in a game, so the game wont suffer from being dragged out forever like dota is now. with how strong champions are late game, especially with things like elder, one death is enough to instantly lose you the game. the amount of times a good game suddenly comes to an anticlimactic end because one guy gets randomly picked off is too high and makes for a pretty lame experience because you would much rather see victories on the back of a 5v5 fight

But then what about the super exciting moments like Akshan's revive?

(Like that LCS game where a kill barely obtained at the last second revived their team's jungler and gave a free elder as a result.)

The joke is that Akshan's passive probably has a smaller impact on winrates in soloQ than people think, but when it does have an impact it just feels like complete bs because it gives fundamental game mechanics that have been in this game since the start a big middle finger (dying = no impact on game).
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
February 12 2022 11:39 GMT
#17
I dont know about true death, but something that increases the spawning times wont be a big surprise
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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