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[Patch 10.13] Pool Party'in General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
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Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-26 12:33:44
June 24 2020 00:42 GMT
#1
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Patch 10.13: Live on June. 24. 2020

Team Fight Tactics Patch 10.13 Live on June. 24, 2020

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

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Patch 9.15 PROJECT Skins General Discussion
Patch 9.14 TFT Ranked Release General Discussion
[url=https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/549242-patch-913-team-fight-tactics-general-discussion]Patch 9.13 Team Fight Tactics Release General Discussion
Que Sera Sera
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 24 2020 01:38 GMT
#2
That is a shockingly well thought out and pro player specific Ornn nerf. I'm usually one to shit on the Riot team (like how their patch notes are still garbage) but that's a really unique and specific nerf to Ornn's inherent advantages in pro play, that aren't as strong in standard soloQ
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 24 2020 06:09 GMT
#3
On June 24 2020 10:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
That is a shockingly well thought out and pro player specific Ornn nerf. I'm usually one to shit on the Riot team (like how their patch notes are still garbage) but that's a really unique and specific nerf to Ornn's inherent advantages in pro play, that aren't as strong in standard soloQ

It is a decent change, but the problem is that they don't understand that they created a champion that cannot coexist with the rest of their game. Ornn is not the only one, but he is a great example at the moment.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
June 24 2020 08:14 GMT
#4
Yeah, they basically admitted that Orrn's very unique passive isn't actually a balanced mechanic, so they half gut it to keep the old crowd happy, while new players will look at it and wonder why the champion has such a seemingly useless feature.

Death Dance nerf is not enough, very unhappy about it. Yeah, ranged champs exploit it hard, but so do champs like Riven and Aatrox who become nigh unkillable.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-24 13:27:01
June 24 2020 13:25 GMT
#5
I do agree that there's very little if anything you can do to Ornn without changing his kit to make him not pro viable, but its a shockingly on point change that will effect and nerf his pro viability without changing much to the average player in soloQ. Sure its kind of clunky as a work around, but it gets the job done better than they usually do imo. For example its much better than just the stupid and clunky "You just can't flash taunt with Gallio because fuck you that's why"
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6170 Posts
June 25 2020 22:26 GMT
#6
i don't know why but ur TFT link never work
n_n
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
June 26 2020 12:34 GMT
#7
On June 26 2020 07:26 FaCE_1 wrote:
i don't know why but ur TFT link never work


Not sure why it wasn't working but its now fixed.
Que Sera Sera
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9176 Posts
July 07 2020 19:05 GMT
#8
God damn it I hate seeing AP Kog every single game.

Lillia looks nice.
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