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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 22 2019 19:55 GMT
#21
On November 23 2019 01:16 Sent. wrote:
Additional honeyfruit spawns feel really nice when you're playing something mana hungry. Additional bushes make vision play pain in the ass.

Nooo cancerous powerfarming master yis are back


I don't think Yi is good right now. Hard carrying from the jungle as "the carry" is ridiculously hard right now, jungle XP / gold just too low compared to solo lanes. You aren't farming to get gold to win, but rather getting farm to storage yourself from the other jungler and create advantaged skirmishes that set up big carry plays from the mid and top laners that are 3 levels higher than anyone in the game.

I could just be totally out to lunch. But I feel like if you pick a strong 2v2er that farms well, and path efficiently you can just set up whomever you want to carry so easily because it's very easy to generate and stretch huge jungle leads. Last season it felt impossible to get a 2 level lead on the other jungler, let alone 3 or 4, but this season I've just been burying other junglers with this kind of lead every game. Feels like a lot of junglers forgot (or never had to learn?) how to say... plan a route to get to Dragon that spawns in 1:30 while farming on the way there.

The top tier, in my opinion, at the moment are the supporty / control junglers. Less Nidalee / Shyv / Yi / Graves / Karthus, and more Elise / Nunu / Olaf / Udyr / Rammus / Warwick. I feel Nunu and Rammus are really strong right now because their clear is great and they are able to be just a bit more greedy with farm and still be in the action quickly with Snowball / roll. Udyr and Olaf feel so strong right now because they both just clear so friggen fast and are strong early in skirmishes. Elise and Warwick are kind of a mix of the two categories.

I think next tier is like the Reksai / LeeSin / Nidalee / Vi / Mundo / Xin / Voli etc who can kind of play that control game well if they can play to their win condition but aren't as versatile (maybe poor farming, or maybe poor ganks) and then last tier is either the pure gankers or the pure farmers (Yi / J4 / Shyv / Graves / Camille / Pantheon / Kayn / Sylas etc) that are either trying to hard snowball off of cheese ganks or carry 1v9 as the hypercarry.

Ivern should be broken right now but his farm speed is too tied to old spawn times. He's awful. I've seen Elko jungle a lot too, but havn't really seen it do too much.

Ofcourse I'm largely speculating, because I don't have close to the hundreds of games needed to make a sure list. That's just my feel and read.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
November 22 2019 20:05 GMT
#22
Man, I feel like I'm going to be so behind on preseason reads being not able to play for 3 weeks.
Que Sera Sera
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 22 2019 23:58 GMT
#23
On November 23 2019 05:05 AdsMoFro wrote:
Man, I feel like I'm going to be so behind on preseason reads being not able to play for 3 weeks.

Tell me about it.

Broke my wrist and have been mouse only for 3 weeks, and looking like it will be another 2-3 more.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
November 23 2019 00:28 GMT
#24
Sounds like the perfect time to switch to jungle
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 23 2019 01:03 GMT
#25
You're an old jungler Ads, you'll be fine.

If anything you'll be ahead of the curve. I swear half the junglers I play against are used to only ever rubberbanding krugs and raptors to stay relevant.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
November 25 2019 14:45 GMT
#26
i feel riot should just remove conqueror. they dunno wtf theyre doing with it and its almost always the strongest rune because they suck at balancing it
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 25 2019 16:49 GMT
#27
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-preview/aphelios-kit-primer

I... What?!

My initial impression is that I need to read that again.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 16:57:01
November 25 2019 16:56 GMT
#28
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-preview/aphelios-kit-primer

All this text scared me at first me but skimming through weapon descritpions made me think Aphelios is actually going to be eboy version of Heimerdinger with lots of things that don't do much on their own. Champion's trailer made me worry he's going to be a flashier, more complicated version of Jayce.

On November 23 2019 04:55 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 01:16 Sent. wrote:
Additional honeyfruit spawns feel really nice when you're playing something mana hungry. Additional bushes make vision play pain in the ass.

Nooo cancerous powerfarming master yis are back


I don't think Yi is good right now.


Yeah I think I overreacted after two unlucky games.
You're now breathing manually
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 25 2019 17:08 GMT
#29
He feels like Invoker meets Devil May Cry meets LoL.

I'm ready for the sub 30% soloqueue winrate.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
November 25 2019 17:24 GMT
#30
Somewhere Meteos is raging.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 25 2019 19:10 GMT
#31
it looks more complicated than actually strong. Honestly, when its not something that jumps, teleports, dashes and disappears zillions times, it will always have counter play, at least in soloQ
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 25 2019 19:20 GMT
#32
On November 26 2019 04:10 M2 wrote:
it looks more complicated than actually strong. Honestly, when its not something that jumps, teleports, dashes and disappears zillions times, it will always have counter play, at least in soloQ


Yeah, this was kind of my thought as well. Squishy without mobility, I'm not too worried about it.

Seems kind of unreliable; I feel like he has a lot of tools but you can't really choose what tool you have at any given time, so it almost feels like a restriction more than anything. Like Udyr but you're randomly given two stances; that would feel horrible... You want turtle but sorry you get Pheonix.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 25 2019 19:43 GMT
#33
On November 25 2019 23:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i feel riot should just remove conqueror. they dunno wtf theyre doing with it and its almost always the strongest rune because they suck at balancing it

They really should just revert it to Fervor.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 25 2019 19:50 GMT
#34
This looks like invoker for the developer who doesn’t trust their players. I’m think there are some good ideas here, and I’m guessing the idea is like gnar where not getting to choose is part of the balance, but I really don’t like it. I feel like in order for him to be good in this state most if not all of the weapons need to be generically useful and that kills the point of having 5 weapons to me.

That and if he’s so complicated he needs his own Ui can we get the full gun order for the love of god, not just the on deck gun. At least then you can plan out some combos at low ammo planning on the swap or setting up a desired reload order
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 25 2019 20:51 GMT
#35
Just use like E to swap offhand with unequipped guns, get rid of mana q just expends x ammo. Guns regain ammo at x per 5 while unequppied with a penalty of having to wait for a full reload if you empty the clip completely (affected by cdr)

That alone would be a huge improvement but you could also do curl+q upgrades the weapon on your main hand up to 6 times for potential specialization.

Or you can accept the baby mode Dota stereotypes and make everything automated
Carrilord has arrived.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 21:31:07
November 25 2019 21:29 GMT
#36
Regarding the Conqueror- just remove the adaptive damage, make it only AD and then see how it goes and start balancing it. Mages have 6-7 viable & strong runes that can be swaped around on any mage without any real drawbacks: Comet, Aery, Glacial, Harvest. Electro, Aftershock, Phase maybe something else, did they really need to be able to get Conqueror? There is no other class which can use more than 3 key stone adequately, but we need to add more for the mages, ok riot, we got it, they sell skins and have to be strong, safe, fun etc., but just draw the line somewhere please
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 25 2019 21:35 GMT
#37


Aphelios gameplay is a one of a kind collaboration between two very different designers:

CertainlyT - Boundary pushing visionary

Stashu - Master of the details, put the pieces together

At one point when we were early on exploring the concept of "master of all guns" CertainlyT wanted to put literally 25 weapons on him. I really love that commitment to the concept, but LOL.

--------------------
Motherfucker haha
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
November 25 2019 22:10 GMT
#38
Sounds like CT alright. His champs always cause problems.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 15:34:00
November 26 2019 13:23 GMT
#39
anyone else get asked to update their account because league accounts are now "riot accounts"?
i just wanna use my same username and its either legitimately taken already or they wont allow me to reuse the id? for fucks sake riot

did some googling and apparently if i have a pbe account i have to change that first? how the fuck do you change your pbe account? i dont even remember making one.
also tried logging in with an account thats confirmed to not have a pbe account, and it still prompts the same message says the username is fking taken when i try to update. theres no way someone has taken all my obscure ass usernames. time to quit league boys
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 26 2019 16:49 GMT
#40
On November 26 2019 22:23 evilfatsh1t wrote:
anyone else get asked to update their account because league accounts are now "riot accounts"?
i just wanna use my same username and its either legitimately taken already or they wont allow me to reuse the id? for fucks sake riot

did some googling and apparently if i have a pbe account i have to change that first? how the fuck do you change your pbe account? i dont even remember making one.
also tried logging in with an account thats confirmed to not have a pbe account, and it still prompts the same message says the username is fking taken when i try to update. theres no way someone has taken all my obscure ass usernames. time to quit league boys

what the fuck are you talking about? I guess its something that is yet to reach me ...
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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