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[Patch 8.15] Akali Rework General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
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Last Edited: 2018-07-31 23:32:48
July 31 2018 23:30 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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The Akali rework will be released this patch. To find out more, click here!

Patch 8.15: Live on Aug. 1, 2018

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 31 2018 23:33 GMT
#2
Two reworks in three patches. Riot on a roll. Waiting for Nunu rework!
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2018 01:25 GMT
#3
On August 01 2018 06:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2018 06:00 Slusher wrote:
Well marksman are still nerfed compared to April, but we are back to not having a marksman = inting

On August 01 2018 05:26 Gahlo wrote:
I'm more concerned about those ratio buffs on Fizz R.


Fizz is good when Ahri is good so this is just icing , the w change is the bigger deal outside of free match ups

I mean, probably. I don't know enough about Fizz' play patterns to comment about his W.

It's the 30% AP buff on rank 1 ulti for a champion that I keep hearing is dependent on getting value from early ults to get rolling as an assassin that makes me pay attention.


Only to min range which was god awful and probably less bad now. Max range is .1, anyone who didn’t die to that already isn’t dying to .1
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 01 2018 05:25 GMT
#4
Fizz revert is a good idea even if it makes him OP temporarily. There is not really much skill in hitting long range sharks. Its just about CC. Like most of the assassin changes that made them more clunky/slow it was a miss.

I actually think they did have a decent hint of a thought about assassins 1-shotting being hard to balance around, but the thing they should have done was give assassins more control and more slipperiness in exchange for the ability to 1-shot. Like lowering the Fizz W cooldown, or increasing its range so to lower the Q damage or something. Something that lets them feel like they can go in and out and back in instead of making them stay in.
Freeeeeeedom
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 01 2018 06:04 GMT
#5
I just hope bruiser Fizz is back, it was one of the most fun champs to play I wish Riot would balanced him around a bruiserish aspect instead of assassin.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 01 2018 14:01 GMT
#6
On August 01 2018 15:04 Jek wrote:
I just hope bruiser Fizz is back, it was one of the most fun champs to play I wish Riot would balanced him around a bruiserish aspect instead of assassin.


You are what's wrong with the world.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-01 15:29:07
August 01 2018 15:27 GMT
#7
On August 01 2018 23:01 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2018 15:04 Jek wrote:
I just hope bruiser Fizz is back, it was one of the most fun champs to play I wish Riot would balanced him around a bruiserish aspect instead of assassin.


You are what's wrong with the world.

I've mained Janna since S2 and the only jungler I know how to play is Ivern. I'm a certified S-tier fun police officer.

Bring me back the glory days of Ignite/TP top and I'll squeal in joy. It was in my opinion by far the most interesting and fun top have ever been.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2018 15:29 GMT
#8
Fizz is basically all ap ratio now, his base damage is pretty awful precisely to keep bruiser fizz from being S tier (it’s still playable because mobility is king)
Carrilord has arrived.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 03:17:27
August 03 2018 03:16 GMT
#9
Got the new Akali in all for one tonight. New champ felt very fun. Also felt like it would be super annoying to play against. Lots of poke. No mana. Good escapes.

Edit: in all for one it seems like you can share smoke rings. So she’s bonkers as a group.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 03 2018 06:17 GMT
#10
On August 03 2018 12:16 General_Winter wrote:
Got the new Akali in all for one tonight. New champ felt very fun. Also felt like it would be super annoying to play against. Lots of poke. No mana. Good escapes.

Edit: in all for one it seems like you can share smoke rings. So she’s bonkers as a group.


Oh god, that would be cancer haha. Invisible poke group for an entire minute if your team sets up correctly
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 08:16:07
August 03 2018 08:15 GMT
#11
On August 03 2018 15:17 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 12:16 General_Winter wrote:
Got the new Akali in all for one tonight. New champ felt very fun. Also felt like it would be super annoying to play against. Lots of poke. No mana. Good escapes.

Edit: in all for one it seems like you can share smoke rings. So she’s bonkers as a group.


Oh god, that would be cancer haha. Invisible poke group for an entire minute if your team sets up correctly

One minute? Cap CDR and have the group be perma invis.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 03 2018 12:31 GMT
#12
Creep along like unassailable siege tanks doing nonsense for fun.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 03 2018 12:50 GMT
#13
rune nerfs on PBE will hurt a lot
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 03 2018 13:16 GMT
#14
I think it's a little overdue.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4162 Posts
August 03 2018 23:00 GMT
#15
On August 03 2018 21:50 Frolossus wrote:
rune nerfs on PBE will hurt a lot

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/P4eh9Or5-tank-changes-for-816

so while we are on damage nerfs, lets buffs tanks and start getting ready for worlds xDDDD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 03 2018 23:09 GMT
#16
Just buffed crit ADC, gonna have to.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 04 2018 00:26 GMT
#17
On August 04 2018 08:09 Gahlo wrote:
Just buffed crit ADC, gonna have to.


Buffing tanks is a buff to crit adc
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 04 2018 00:34 GMT
#18
On August 04 2018 09:26 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2018 08:09 Gahlo wrote:
Just buffed crit ADC, gonna have to.


Buffing tanks is a buff to crit adc

I'm aware. This is Riot's balance team. They weren't buffed in enough ways at once.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 04 2018 01:08 GMT
#19
Did someone say buff corki for worlds?!
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 04 2018 01:36 GMT
#20
They already did that.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
August 04 2018 05:27 GMT
#21
On August 04 2018 08:00 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 21:50 Frolossus wrote:
rune nerfs on PBE will hurt a lot

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/P4eh9Or5-tank-changes-for-816

so while we are on damage nerfs, lets buffs tanks and start getting ready for worlds xDDDD


I'd say drop all of that save for Rammus, Leona, and Amumu. Those three haven't really seen much action and they would be fun tanks to see at Worlds.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 04 2018 05:55 GMT
#22
The Leona change looks more like a nerf tbh and isn't Ashe when using her Q going to do like negative damage to Amumu with that change?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
August 04 2018 15:10 GMT
#23
On August 04 2018 10:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Did someone say buff corki for worlds?!


Get ready for Orianna to get that 7 damage nerf on her auto reverted 2 weeks before the event!
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
August 04 2018 15:35 GMT
#24
After watching Prof Akali using her in the rework, I must say I am truly going to enjoy playing her. Looks soooo fun to play. I think Akali vs Akali matches when applicable is more fun to watch than Zed vs Zed.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-04 17:23:31
August 04 2018 17:15 GMT
#25
TF blade thinks going AD Tiatanic > DD is better than ap, that being said he hasn’t been able to get her in challenger Elo yet so he only has smurfing to judge it with.

Ap isn’t bad but if your team doesn’t need magic damage you should go ad is essentially what I’ve gathered from him
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 12 2018 09:34 GMT
#26
That background change thingie in profile is pretty interesting. I can see my first champion purchases:

Ryze->Soraka->Shen->Kayle->Lulu->Nidalee->Janna->Nunu

I have appearently been a fun police main since day 1. :D
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
August 12 2018 10:49 GMT
#27
Where can you find your first champion purchases?
You're now breathing manually
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 12 2018 12:59 GMT
#28
On August 12 2018 19:49 Sent. wrote:
Where can you find your first champion purchases?

On your profile, click that star thingie where you can set your background. You can then sort by date you acquired the skins and champions.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-12 14:33:51
August 12 2018 14:23 GMT
#29
Oh I thought it's some sort of "Settings" button. Thanks.

Malphite - Lux - Caitlyn - Soraka - Shen - Blitz - Taric - Olaf - Leona

Looks like I liked catching people when I was little. Guessing a lot of people bought Soraka and Shen early mostly because of their low price. I don't remember playing a lot of Soraka back then but the old Shen was fun and simple, very good buy for the newbies.
You're now breathing manually
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 12 2018 15:36 GMT
#30
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 12 2018 17:50 GMT
#31
On August 13 2018 00:36 JimmiC wrote:
The first 3 I played lots were Veig, WW and yorick. Sadly 2 of the 3 have been reworked. God I miss old yorick people got so mad!

Ah. My "I see your Teemo and raise it with Yorick" pocket pick back in S2. :'(
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 12 2018 18:17 GMT
#32
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 12 2018 23:57 GMT
#33
One tricked Ashe until level 20. Then my friends convinced me Quinn was broken and fed my ass off until level 30 until I became a Vayne 1-trick for the rest of the year.
Que Sera Sera
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 13 2018 00:46 GMT
#34
On August 13 2018 08:57 AdsMoFro wrote:
One tricked Ashe until level 20. Then my friends convinced me Quinn was broken and fed my ass off until level 30 until I became a Vayne 1-trick for the rest of the year.

I did pretty much the same until Riven came out.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-13 06:58:10
August 13 2018 06:56 GMT
#35
Since we're in nostalgia mode anyone got fun/interesting stories from way back?

For me it was starting to use TP in top before it became meta, I think Singed was the only champ people did it on somewhat often in toplane. It started with the Yorick vs Teemo pick, I basically just wanted to lane with a Tear as fast as humanly possible so I figured "why not tp" then saw it wasn't actually completely troll and started using it on Shen too because what's more fun than being able to globally travel the map once?
-- of course it also helped me feed the enemy Darius even more after he got released. :^)
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4162 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-13 10:37:13
August 13 2018 10:36 GMT
#36
I started playing 2012, since then, I played many champions, mained at least 4-5 champs per role, especially before the role selection era. From all of these, Pantheon is my most played champ and my strongest champ, the one that I reached highest rank with and when I checked my purchase history, I was amazed to see that he is the 1st purchase I ever made and Perseus Pantheon is the 1st skin I ever bought. It was a love from first sight I suppose.

p.s. No reworks Riot, pls.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 13 2018 10:38 GMT
#37
Speaking of reworks, apparently this is the Nunu rework.

[image loading]
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 13 2018 11:16 GMT
#38
That looks like the most trolly champion yet to grace the Rift.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 13 2018 11:33 GMT
#39
Fits for the disco king.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 13 2018 12:01 GMT
#40
I started by looking at the available champs, which was in... summer 2011, so right after Orianna/Brand, not that many. Morgana, Janna and Irelia seemed to have the most interesting kits (we only had short blurbs and nothing about numbers, magic or physical damage, etc. nor video previews). I bought Morgana, played her a ton even though she lacked a lot in QoL (then got it, was spammed in pro play and at nerf after nerf, RIP), then Irelia, who became my 2nd main.
I bought Swain after facing him for the first time because his ult and kit looked really cool.

But Morgana (till she got nerfed too much for mid; support wasn't as much of a thing at the time), Irelia, Pantheon were my mains, and then I generally just spammed champions that are a pain in the ass in fights while refusing to die: Maokai, Mundo (jungle mostly), Nautilus (RIP jungle Naut, you died for tanks' base damage sins), Leona, Lulu support (well that was mostly because I've 1v2 uncoordinated botlanes from level 1, but going Locket/Mikael's/Shurelya's with her kit was hilariously survivable).

I usually just played mechanically simple lane bullies that let me outplay my opponents with vision, knowledge of gank timings and match-up power spikes, etc. like Pantheon, Olaf, Wukong, Irelia, Viktor. Some stuff that I simply liked like Brand. And tanks to initiate or peel like a madman because soloq is soloq (Leona, aforementioned tanks and junglers, etc.)
Then Vi because she was fun and came out a bit before an assassin meta where you just needed to go mid at the right times and convince your teammate to bait a fight to collect free kills.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-13 17:00:31
August 13 2018 15:20 GMT
#41
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 14 2018 00:50 GMT
#42
I love it. Nunu bot main from now on.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 14 2018 00:58 GMT
#43
Cuteness overload. Renaming my account to Any Lane Nunu Lane.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-14 18:44:11
August 14 2018 18:43 GMT
#44
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champion-reveal-nunu-willump

https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-816-notes/
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
August 14 2018 21:24 GMT
#45
Uh, does Consume now have zero channeling time? That seems a bit too strong when it comes to objective securing, unless they nerf the damage, which would blow...

I like his redesign though, he's one of the oldest champions in the game without a proper rework.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 14 2018 21:56 GMT
#46
On August 15 2018 06:24 DarkCore wrote:
Uh, does Consume now have zero channeling time? That seems a bit too strong when it comes to objective securing, unless they nerf the damage, which would blow...

I like his redesign though, he's one of the oldest champions in the game without a proper rework.


Ryze still hasn't had a PROPER rework. Many reworks, yes, but all of them improper.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 14 2018 22:01 GMT
#47
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 14 2018 23:11 GMT
#48
lacking in modesty or decency
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 14 2018 23:14 GMT
#49
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 15 2018 00:01 GMT
#50
He's half naked since inception.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 15 2018 00:43 GMT
#51
On August 15 2018 08:14 JimmiC wrote:
And did the ryze rework lack in those important factors?

Without a doubt
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 15 2018 01:26 GMT
#52
DARKNESSSSSSSssssssss


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