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On June 28 2018 02:08 Ansibled wrote:![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/47c50f260dbe775d3aa49d2a6f059277.png) Riot ...
lol I guess they are no longer against invisible auras. This is like the old version of aegis of the legion.
From patch 6.22 notes
Aegis of the Legion
Aura removed. Health removed. MR increased. Armor added.
There’s just no way around it: Aegis of the Legion is too strong. No amount of magic resist would feel impactful on one champion without being overpowered on five, so we’re removing the aura. With that out of the way, we need to give supports other ways to accomplish what Aegis of the Legion did: protect their team. To do that, we’re introducing a few new items and bolstering a few old friends. More on that in a bit.
But what does Aegis look like without its aura? The Aegis line is for low-level champions who are at risk of deletion, yet are expected to roam and ward alone (supports and utility junglers, that’s you). With assassins running around, Aegis is the perfect buy to feel a bit safer straying into the Fog of War.
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Interesting change. Tbh i always liked locket being in the game.
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It's just a string error. It still functions as good old Redemption.
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Volibear bad for two+ years, sees some play patch after a buff immediately gets nerfed.
Aatrox bad for 6 hours gets a hotfix followed by another a day later.
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I just discovered the Predator+Ghostblade Garen build. I dont think I'll ever play anything else.
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have you tried just building a deadmans plate?
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On July 04 2018 10:42 Jek wrote:
I just discovered the Predator+Ghostblade Garen build. I dont think I'll ever play anything else.
Having two movement items feels really nice. My jungle Cho build runs predator and I build cinderhulk shurelias Warmog with the item CDR rune. Once you’ve got two speed items and a few stacks you really just zoom all over the map. Fun stuff.
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Try Olaf with celerity/nimbus cloak; I also opt for ghost in favor of flash even though it's technically worse. shiv/deadman's/RG/stormrazor as items; this combo of secondary runes and items will make the first hit count, as well as the true damage!
I use press the attack in primary rune slot but you could make a case for predator.
It can be hilarious at times how fast you delete a carry.
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On July 04 2018 17:02 Slayer91 wrote:
have you tried just building a deadmans plate?
But then you're just the regular tank-juggernaut Garen and not tank-assassin Garen. 
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yea which is actually good
my point exactly
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On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good
my point exactly
I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry while the more traditional build is a juggernaut, if you team needs a frontline the more tanky approach is certainly better no doubt.
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On July 05 2018 06:07 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good
my point exactly I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry
would you be so kind as to define the words "legitimate", "melee" and "carry"?
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I define it with 2 words: MASTER YI
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On July 05 2018 06:55 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2018 06:07 Jek wrote:On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good
my point exactly I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry would you be so kind as to define the words "legitimate", "melee" and "carry"?
A melee champion that run in kill everyone and still live.
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you've just described how "tank" garen works
his ad ratios and mobility aren't that good that building squishy makes a lot of sense because you're the natural target to focus assuming they are in any way grouped and have cc
i'm not sure how much actual garen you've played I don't think you'll find ghostblade adds all that much damage
I mean grasp isn't that great on garen you could realistically go predator instead of that and skip ghostblade which seems like a meh investment compared to either steraks or deadmans
lethality is quite nice on garen the problem is by the time you get your stacks of cleaver and E up typically most of your physical damage is already done and you still have your R for the rest of your damage.
honestly its not bad but you might as well just build trinity it'll probably work out better
the real reason not to go predator is it makes your lane phase weaker but if you don't have to worry about that it's good for flanking enemies in teamfights
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The NA masters Garen 1 trick takes predator in match ups where he doesn’t need to rune to survive
He also goes trinity as his one damage item
So essentially exactly what Teut said
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Trinity is pretty interesting because it's not THAT easy to proc on him but it adds a ton of damage more than building AD probably would anyway especially if you are attacking during your E downtime. The extra move speed is nice too.
I've honestly never really tried it, no idea how strong it is in comparison to building BC.
I think predator is actually a decent idea, similar to vlad, allows you to get into the enemy team for free which can be very good for garen because he's so tanky with his W and doesn't need to constantly auto to do damage.
I think we won a lot of tournament games with me coming in from behind on garen and scip initiating from the front and the enemies kind of have to focus the frontline but can't really stop us getting on the squishies.
Problem is some of the better teams would just ward really well and avoid it, but with predator its harder to avoid those kind of flanks.
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On PBE
Teleport
Cooldown increased from 300 to 360
No longer goes on a reduced cooldown when cancelled.
Actually just delete it already.
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They should just make it an expensive one time use item or something
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EPT
