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Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-01 12:34:28
July 01 2018 12:28 GMT
#21
On June 28 2018 02:08 Ansibled wrote:
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Riot ...


lol I guess they are no longer against invisible auras. This is like the old version of aegis of the legion.

From patch 6.22 notes

Aegis of the Legion
Aura removed. Health removed. MR increased. Armor added.

There’s just no way around it: Aegis of the Legion is too strong. No amount of magic resist would feel impactful on one champion without being overpowered on five, so we’re removing the aura. With that out of the way, we need to give supports other ways to accomplish what Aegis of the Legion did: protect their team. To do that, we’re introducing a few new items and bolstering a few old friends. More on that in a bit.

But what does Aegis look like without its aura? The Aegis line is for low-level champions who are at risk of deletion, yet are expected to roam and ward alone (supports and utility junglers, that’s you). With assassins running around, Aegis is the perfect buy to feel a bit safer straying into the Fog of War.
You're now breathing manually
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2018 13:23 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 02 2018 08:29 GMT
#23
Interesting change. Tbh i always liked locket being in the game.
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 02 2018 10:47 GMT
#24
It's just a string error. It still functions as good old Redemption.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 04 2018 00:45 GMT
#25
Volibear bad for two+ years, sees some play patch after a buff immediately gets nerfed.

Aatrox bad for 6 hours gets a hotfix followed by another a day later.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 04 2018 01:42 GMT
#26
I just discovered the Predator+Ghostblade Garen build. I dont think I'll ever play anything else.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 04 2018 08:02 GMT
#27
have you tried just building a deadmans plate?
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
July 04 2018 13:18 GMT
#28
On July 04 2018 10:42 Jek wrote:
I just discovered the Predator+Ghostblade Garen build. I dont think I'll ever play anything else.


Having two movement items feels really nice. My jungle Cho build runs predator and I build cinderhulk shurelias Warmog with the item CDR rune. Once you’ve got two speed items and a few stacks you really just zoom all over the map. Fun stuff.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4764 Posts
July 04 2018 17:20 GMT
#29
Try Olaf with celerity/nimbus cloak; I also opt for ghost in favor of flash even though it's technically worse. shiv/deadman's/RG/stormrazor as items; this combo of secondary runes and items will make the first hit count, as well as the true damage!
I use press the attack in primary rune slot but you could make a case for predator.
It can be hilarious at times how fast you delete a carry.
Taxes are for Terrans
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 04 2018 18:20 GMT
#30
On July 04 2018 17:02 Slayer91 wrote:
have you tried just building a deadmans plate?

But then you're just the regular tank-juggernaut Garen and not tank-assassin Garen.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-04 19:38:00
July 04 2018 19:37 GMT
#31
yea which is actually good

my point exactly
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 04 2018 21:07 GMT
#32
On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good

my point exactly

I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry while the more traditional build is a juggernaut, if you team needs a frontline the more tanky approach is certainly better no doubt.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
July 04 2018 21:55 GMT
#33
On July 05 2018 06:07 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good

my point exactly

I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry

would you be so kind as to define the words "legitimate", "melee" and "carry"?
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
July 04 2018 22:28 GMT
#34
I define it with 2 words: MASTER YI
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 04 2018 23:12 GMT
#35
On July 05 2018 06:55 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2018 06:07 Jek wrote:
On July 05 2018 04:37 Slayer91 wrote:
yea which is actually good

my point exactly

I dont really think you can compare the two styles. Once you have Cleaver and Ghostblade the Predator build is a legitimate melee carry

would you be so kind as to define the words "legitimate", "melee" and "carry"?

A melee champion that run in kill everyone and still live.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 10:06:50
July 05 2018 09:58 GMT
#36
you've just described how "tank" garen works

his ad ratios and mobility aren't that good that building squishy makes a lot of sense because you're the natural target to focus assuming they are in any way grouped and have cc

i'm not sure how much actual garen you've played I don't think you'll find ghostblade adds all that much damage

I mean grasp isn't that great on garen you could realistically go predator instead of that and skip ghostblade which seems like a meh investment compared to either steraks or deadmans

lethality is quite nice on garen the problem is by the time you get your stacks of cleaver and E up typically most of your physical damage is already done and you still have your R for the rest of your damage.

honestly its not bad but you might as well just build trinity it'll probably work out better

the real reason not to go predator is it makes your lane phase weaker but if you don't have to worry about that it's good for flanking enemies in teamfights
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 16:34:54
July 05 2018 16:04 GMT
#37
The NA masters Garen 1 trick takes predator in match ups where he doesn’t need to rune to survive

He also goes trinity as his one damage item

So essentially exactly what Teut said
Carrilord has arrived.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 19:48:04
July 05 2018 19:45 GMT
#38
Trinity is pretty interesting because it's not THAT easy to proc on him but it adds a ton of damage more than building AD probably would anyway especially if you are attacking during your E downtime. The extra move speed is nice too.

I've honestly never really tried it, no idea how strong it is in comparison to building BC.

I think predator is actually a decent idea, similar to vlad, allows you to get into the enemy team for free which can be very good for garen because he's so tanky with his W and doesn't need to constantly auto to do damage.

I think we won a lot of tournament games with me coming in from behind on garen and scip initiating from the front and the enemies kind of have to focus the frontline but can't really stop us getting on the squishies.
Problem is some of the better teams would just ward really well and avoid it, but with predator its harder to avoid those kind of flanks.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 06 2018 13:27 GMT
#39
On PBE

Teleport
Cooldown increased from 300 to 360
No longer goes on a reduced cooldown when cancelled.

Actually just delete it already.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 06 2018 19:49 GMT
#40
They should just make it an expensive one time use item or something
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