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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 09 2017 16:23 GMT
#21
an adc with the longest range will never be irrelevant at the highest level of play because they can abuse it the best. It's just right now tristana does that job better then cait, but she would instantly be relevant again if tristana gets nerfed or is banned.
I come in for the scraps
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
August 09 2017 16:30 GMT
#22
On August 10 2017 01:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
an adc with the longest range will never be irrelevant at the highest level of play because they can abuse it the best. It's just right now tristana does that job better then cait, but she would instantly be relevant again if tristana gets nerfed or is banned.


Trist outranges Cait post 16 which I always thought was kinda weird since Cait was supposed to be the sniper. Then I remembered Trist uses a hand cannon so I can see why her range gets better.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
August 09 2017 17:24 GMT
#23
Cait has been relevant tho, shes 100% pick ban this past week in at least na/lck.
TL/SKT
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 09 2017 18:10 GMT
#24
On August 10 2017 02:24 dsyxelic wrote:
Cait has been relevant tho, shes 100% pick ban this past week in at least na/lck.


after this next set of nerfs we'll have to see, i think tristana will just be overwhelmingly superior at this point as the tower pushing dpser.
I come in for the scraps
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
August 09 2017 18:21 GMT
#25
Meh im still of the opinion she will be at worst top 3 priority adc. Would not be surprised to see her continue to be above 95% pb.
TL/SKT
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 09 2017 19:20 GMT
#26
On August 09 2017 07:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
Slayer91 wrote:
also thats a cassio nerf wtf?
I mean e is worse until 300 AP and she goes oom quicker early

At 300 AP it breaks even, which is right at her 3 item build. The early mana hurts a little, but I'm pretty sure the E is a buff for when you're picking her. You don't pick Cass for early game. You're planning on a game where you'll end up with 4-5 items minimum. It only accentuates her Seraph's timing. It's not like she was particularly strong while building Tear->RoA->Morellos. It doesn't look like a major affect on her mid-game at all while giving her a major buff once she's completed 3 items. Maybe she changes towards a Ryze playstyle (starting mana crystal trading to force a favorable Tear back) to speed up her item timings.

Sure you lose the "run at them and E on cooldown" you can do early on maybe, but I'm pretty sure it's still a buff in the big picture.


-.-
How many pro games happen that last to a cassio 4-5 item build that isn't already a stomp?

Now imagine how many of those will swing because of 5-10 more damage per E

Compared to how much you snowball based on 15 more damage early on (which is more significant as a % of your damage) due to better early fights and laning
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 09 2017 20:35 GMT
#27
If Ornn isn't weak to invades, he's going to have a stupid strong early game unless Riot changes his numbers before release.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2017 21:28 GMT
#28
I wish his ap upgrade was voidstaff if it's going to be one item. Dcap is not universally good.
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2017 22:11 GMT
#29
I wish they forced more mids to build dcap if they want to do respectable damage/clear waves midgame. Seems like there is almost no trade-off for building all the utility you want.
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2017 22:17 GMT
#30
I'm reminded of double dring dcap rush being a standard build, it was probably equally bad then as it is now but we were all bad then.
Carrilord has arrived.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 09 2017 22:30 GMT
#31
Vi buff whooooooooo
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 10 2017 00:09 GMT
#32
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/E0aY4E0O-runes-corner-inspiration-runes-slot-sneak-peek

o.O
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
August 10 2017 09:17 GMT
#33
I felt my brain cells die while reading that.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 10 2017 10:09 GMT
#34
On August 10 2017 09:09 Ansibled wrote:
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/E0aY4E0O-runes-corner-inspiration-runes-slot-sneak-peek

o.O

Channel Blink seems like it will make jungle pathing beyond broken.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-10 12:52:01
August 10 2017 12:18 GMT
#35
They nerfed Orianna R cast time as well as W(which they didn't list in the patch notes??), honestly playing the champion feels like you're lagging compared to before I hate how this is Riot's way of balancing.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 10 2017 13:44 GMT
#36
W casts later when the ball's moving from Q, which is listed. Or do you mean even when the ball if resting?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 10 2017 14:42 GMT
#37
On August 10 2017 22:44 Alaric wrote:
W casts later when the ball's moving from Q, which is listed. Or do you mean even when the ball if resting?

The ult got nerfed in the same way or a similar way to W. I think it's the same if it's resting.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 10 2017 15:46 GMT
#38
Oh God did they Gragas her,?
Freeeeeeedom
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-10 16:43:33
August 10 2017 16:41 GMT
#39
On August 11 2017 00:46 cLutZ wrote:
Oh God did they Gragas her,?

Someone made a post on Reddit with comparison pictures, all I know is I watched a Jhin walk out of my ult because it took absolutely ages to go off.

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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 10 2017 18:46 GMT
#40
It's the same as the Zed shadow nerf. It takes getting used to but none of us would want to go back to when the Zed W could hit you at max range with Q/E before it even appeared on your screen. And it was similarly pretty bullshit that you could get hit by Dissonance or have a Shockwave start channeling under you before the ball even gets to you.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
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