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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 23 2016 03:54 GMT
#201
I really wish mid/support was not auto support, I actually enjoy support but not at the cost of 0% chance for mid
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 23 2016 03:57 GMT
#202
On May 23 2016 12:54 Slusher wrote:
I really wish mid/support was not auto support, I actually enjoy support but not at the cost of 0% chance for mid

I have the same issue with Jungle/Fill.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
May 23 2016 05:33 GMT
#203
Man the champ spotlights of older champs need redoing so bad. How can beginners learn if the info at the main site for the game is so outdated and wrong?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 23 2016 07:06 GMT
#204
On May 23 2016 14:33 lilwisper wrote:
Man the champ spotlights of older champs need redoing so bad. How can beginners learn if the info at the main site for the game is so outdated and wrong?

1 game?
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 07:24:17
May 23 2016 07:23 GMT
#205
On May 23 2016 16:06 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2016 14:33 lilwisper wrote:
Man the champ spotlights of older champs need redoing so bad. How can beginners learn if the info at the main site for the game is so outdated and wrong?

1 game?


I was just installing the game on a new computer and was reading the free champ profiles while i was waiting. Seeing all the old info on Tryn and such in the champ spotlight was eye opening.
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
May 23 2016 08:07 GMT
#206
On May 23 2016 12:54 Slusher wrote:
I really wish mid/support was not auto support, I actually enjoy support but not at the cost of 0% chance for mid


Same, i like support sometimes but getting 95% of your games is silly. Then again i'm bad so I forced to play with bad adc who tilt me.


dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 23 2016 08:14 GMT
#207
yeah they could definitely do more with champion select even though they've made great improvements there compared to the seasons before that.

also an 'everything but this role' would be great. literally no downsides to it.

actually just being allowed to put multiple secondaries would be fine too. i don't see any issues if all the secondaries are weighted the same
TL/SKT
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 08:21:52
May 23 2016 08:20 GMT
#208
You cannot weight secondaries the same and also favor search time at all. If you hard lock a % then you will float search. If you minimize search you will negate a % lock.

Edit: plus the actual implementation in terms of when and why to hold out would be unreasonably complicated. (For a number of reasons)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 23 2016 09:39 GMT
#209
On May 23 2016 17:14 dsyxelic wrote:
yeah they could definitely do more with champion select even though they've made great improvements there compared to the seasons before that.

also an 'everything but this role' would be great. literally no downsides to it.

actually just being allowed to put multiple secondaries would be fine too. i don't see any issues if all the secondaries are weighted the same

They said from day 1 they wouldn't do it because too many people would pick "everything but support" (didn't flat out say it but that was the idea).
Which conversely also annoyed the crap out of me because with my garbage AD it meant I couldn't just put in "fill" (and after playing a dozen games in normal with "Fill" I got AD 3 times, jungle once, and support all other), so champ select boils down to "do I want to play support or do I want to toss between two roles (out of 3 others)."
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
May 23 2016 10:23 GMT
#210
On May 23 2016 12:54 Slusher wrote:
I really wish mid/support was not auto support, I actually enjoy support but not at the cost of 0% chance for mid


this is my problem too, I find the most reliable way to get mid while queueing solo is to mid/adc
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Miefer
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan229 Posts
May 23 2016 13:13 GMT
#211
Playing Swain vs Karma, ez and velkoz was not fun at all. Also my Lane opponent was gp. I couldnt out Push gp and in teamfights i can't get in with Karma and velkoz kiting and ez being ez.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 23 2016 13:24 GMT
#212
I guess that is why challenger players/streamers have a billion accounts. Approaching D1 and my queue times are guaranteed 10 minutes unless I pick fill, then its like 2-3 mins.

But I am really liking galio support right now so oh well. can carry as long as your adc picks some one that can farm 1-5 because its really weak until you get going
I come in for the scraps
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 23 2016 13:43 GMT
#213
So much Lucian.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 23 2016 13:44 GMT
#214
Why not just ban him at this point? When Blue Ez was the craze I started banning it just for diversity.
Plus it's not like Lucian's a bad ban, a bursty, forgiving, super low skill-floor marksman who happens to shred tanks effortlessly and pushes well? Sign me up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 23 2016 14:12 GMT
#215
On May 23 2016 22:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
I guess that is why challenger players/streamers have a billion accounts. Approaching D1 and my queue times are guaranteed 10 minutes unless I pick fill, then its like 2-3 mins.

But I am really liking galio support right now so oh well. can carry as long as your adc picks some one that can farm 1-5 because its really weak until you get going


Can you say a little more about your Galio support playstyle & build? I kinda expected the 1-5 weakness and mana issues in lane (and therefore little lane presence), but how are you playing post-6? Trying to engage (if even)? And what about teamfights? Are you initiating or do you use your ult as a peeling tool?
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 23 2016 14:13 GMT
#216
On May 23 2016 18:39 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2016 17:14 dsyxelic wrote:
yeah they could definitely do more with champion select even though they've made great improvements there compared to the seasons before that.

also an 'everything but this role' would be great. literally no downsides to it.

actually just being allowed to put multiple secondaries would be fine too. i don't see any issues if all the secondaries are weighted the same

They said from day 1 they wouldn't do it because too many people would pick "everything but support" (didn't flat out say it but that was the idea).
Which conversely also annoyed the crap out of me because with my garbage AD it meant I couldn't just put in "fill" (and after playing a dozen games in normal with "Fill" I got AD 3 times, jungle once, and support all other), so champ select boils down to "do I want to play support or do I want to toss between two roles (out of 3 others)."


I dont get it, wouldnt that be great if everybody who already dont list support did it? Thats 2 more roles per person theyd be willing to play. I dont see any downside?

TL/SKT
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 23 2016 15:09 GMT
#217
So much stuff to ban to ban Lucian though.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 23 2016 15:34 GMT
#218
Lucian is 100% the best ban at every elo right now. There's no champ with his combination of win rate and play rate. Depending on your elo Blitzcrank, Ekko, Kindred, and Swain are other potential ban candidates -- most other champions either have too low of a win rate or too low of a play rate to justify banning them.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 23 2016 15:49 GMT
#219
On May 23 2016 23:12 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2016 22:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
I guess that is why challenger players/streamers have a billion accounts. Approaching D1 and my queue times are guaranteed 10 minutes unless I pick fill, then its like 2-3 mins.

But I am really liking galio support right now so oh well. can carry as long as your adc picks some one that can farm 1-5 because its really weak until you get going


Can you say a little more about your Galio support playstyle & build? I kinda expected the 1-5 weakness and mana issues in lane (and therefore little lane presence), but how are you playing post-6? Trying to engage (if even)? And what about teamfights? Are you initiating or do you use your ult as a peeling tool?


not much to it really, the goal is to just make whoever your best player is unkillable and also have a huge AOE cc

everything is pretty circumstantial depending on the game. if we are stronger 2v2 yea i will look for an ult after poking with Q.

Same with teamfights, if i see a good flash ult opportunity ill do it, otherwise ill just ult to zone/peel the tanks like a nunu ult kinda.

and build is something like FOTM/athene's/locket. Then a zzrot or something if it goes that long. You just want as many utility items as possible because you dont really scale off anything as a support. I take bond of stone/exhaust as well, purely a defensive support.

So between bulwark/FOTM/athene's mitigation/locket one of your carries can take a pretty ridiculous beating. The funniest combo ive seen so far was Cass/galio we were 2v5ing basically.

I don't recommend it unless you are already a very experienced galio player, ive been playing him for a while just not support until this athene's change
I come in for the scraps
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 23 2016 16:30 GMT
#220
Speaking of unconventional supports I want to try veigar support again. Kinda simmered down once insta stun was gone but I think it can be okay again now that the stacks change (dont need to farm, E hits also give stacks) and your ult does missing health so you can just use it as a mini execute on low targets. Before your only target was usually their ap midlaner and even then it was fairly underwhelming due to no ap.

Weaknesses might be too much but worth a try again.
TL/SKT
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