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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 02 2016 17:37 GMT
#141
Oh yeah Malph with the Deathfire Keystone is just a load of annoyance. If you're not rushing MR and don't have sustain it's like the most headache inducing stuff and then he just Ults you. Ugh.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 17:43:22
February 02 2016 17:42 GMT
#142
On February 03 2016 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 02:21 nafta wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:32 lilwisper wrote:
On February 02 2016 17:04 Kinie wrote:
There's a video up on the r/lol subreddit where a guy breaks down a lot of the math around Jhin's passive and item breakpoints for his first AD item. The tl;dw version of it is that, assuming standard ADC rune page + standard buys, if lane is going well you get a BFS into IE or Reaver, but if lane is going badly or poor back timing, you get Youmou's or Death's Dance.


I thought that Death's Dance was a terrible item for ADC's? That they should avoid any damage even something that spreads it over time like this item does?


it is, deaths dance is only good on champs that sustain a lot and have difficulty doing damage/get kited (pretty much a perfect item on trundle for example)

pretty good on champs like graves too but hes just broken

Death's dance is just meh overall tbh. Trundle has too many good items to have space for this one.

Graves is kinda overrated imo. Like yea he is good but he is just like nidalee. A soloq pubstomper that snowballs well. Can't compete with other powerpicks like corki/gp/tahm/malph/lulu/etc

For some reason it is taking people really fucking long to understand how he works. It is just so funny how slow the average soloq player is. Same as trundle. People still try to all in me lvl 3 or so just to get 1v2d...


what do you build on trundle? My core is always frozen fist/visage/DD + swifts or mercs since I go fervor ( might be part of the reason I like DD a lot)

gives a balance of armor/hp/mr/damage reduction and sustain that honestly I cant see topped for the same gold value but maybe youll enlighten me

Well I focus more on teamfighting so I go for a more tanky build. Swifts/fist/visage core and then I go titanic/thornmail with situational last but bork or randuin would be my bet. I do prefer going for 12/0/18 but without trying out fervor not gonna talk about that one.

My problem with dd is that it is good in long 1v1/2 fights but they don't really happen that often and only if your opponents are dumb. Bork helps you just shit on 1v1 and run away much easier while giving you more dmg.

Lol wat. If malph goes dft you should be praising jesus for being a luckerdog.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
February 02 2016 18:06 GMT
#143
Malph DFT is so soloq it hurts. Like, please don't.

DD is basically *just* for AD casters. The passive delayed-damage thing is not strong enough to consider seriously imo.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 02 2016 19:20 GMT
#144
On February 03 2016 03:06 Caiada wrote:
Malph DFT is so soloq it hurts. Like, please don't.

DD is basically *just* for AD casters. The passive delayed-damage thing is not strong enough to consider seriously imo.


o.o thats the best part of the item. 15% damage reduction on a sustain tank is huge, let alone even getting any sort of return on it.

Which is a big part of the reason its super strong on champs like zed
I come in for the scraps
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 02 2016 20:38 GMT
#145
On February 03 2016 02:03 Slusher wrote:
tbh he's been complete garbage between any of my games or games I've seen on stream. If you saw one that actually contributed to a win and didn't feed or get carried I'd be interested to see a post game log.

Pobelter started a game 0/5 and ended 9/5 last night lol
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 02 2016 21:13 GMT
#146
wew got a new account. now i just need to think positive, dont rage and ill be back to diamond in no time.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 21:17:51
February 02 2016 21:16 GMT
#147
On February 03 2016 06:13 IMoperator wrote:
wew got a new account. now i just need to think positive, dont rage and ill be back to diamond in no time.

if it's really a problem, install an azerty keyboard set and then you can't actually type to people because you won't know where the letters are.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 02 2016 21:36 GMT
#148
On February 03 2016 01:38 Alaric wrote:
Re: Jhin
He gets a % AD multiplier (think Zed's W passive) when he buys AS, on a low-ish rate, and his total AS is fixed and never changes.
So till some point, you're better off buying more AD than buying AS to increase your dps (plus it also works with your abilities and stuff), with the AS you buy only giving some AD and more MS when you crit (if you find this sentence strange, praise Riot's designers).


I ran the numbers in the other thread. The only advantage of AS items is more MS when you crit. Other than that AD/Crit or AD/Pen or AD/Utility items are going to be a lot more powerful. The breakevens are like 280 to 400 raw AD. So if you're looking at your AD on Jhin if its under like 650 its explicitly better to just get AD/Crit items.

Triforce should be strong though

On February 03 2016 01:32 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 17:04 Kinie wrote:
There's a video up on the r/lol subreddit where a guy breaks down a lot of the math around Jhin's passive and item breakpoints for his first AD item. The tl;dw version of it is that, assuming standard ADC rune page + standard buys, if lane is going well you get a BFS into IE or Reaver, but if lane is going badly or poor back timing, you get Youmou's or Death's Dance.


I thought that Death's Dance was a terrible item for ADC's? That they should avoid any damage even something that spreads it over time like this item does?

Deaths Dance is bad ish for AA focused AD's because its got less lifesteal and less survivability from the shield on BT

But on an ability focused AD it can have a lot more sustain.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 21:55:05
February 02 2016 21:54 GMT
#149
It could potentially be good on Aatrox esp if you combine with Hydra, but there's not really any champion that can use the bleed plus aoe leech together. Maybe Nocturne? IDK.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 02 2016 22:29 GMT
#150
On February 03 2016 06:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 06:13 IMoperator wrote:
wew got a new account. now i just need to think positive, dont rage and ill be back to diamond in no time.

if it's really a problem, install an azerty keyboard set and then you can't actually type to people because you won't know where the letters are.


Uh unless it scrambles the omputs this won't work
Carrilord has arrived.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 02 2016 22:30 GMT
#151
On February 03 2016 07:29 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 06:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 03 2016 06:13 IMoperator wrote:
wew got a new account. now i just need to think positive, dont rage and ill be back to diamond in no time.

if it's really a problem, install an azerty keyboard set and then you can't actually type to people because you won't know where the letters are.


Uh unless it scrambles the omputs this won't work

my brain thought the E was in a different spot.even though its in the name.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 02 2016 22:34 GMT
#152
I mean like, i don't look at my keyboard to type
Carrilord has arrived.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 03 2016 01:05 GMT
#153
On February 03 2016 06:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 06:13 IMoperator wrote:
wew got a new account. now i just need to think positive, dont rage and ill be back to diamond in no time.

if it's really a problem, install an azerty keyboard set and then you can't actually type to people because you won't know where the letters are.

bind chat key to num lock and buy a tenkeyless
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 03 2016 01:19 GMT
#154
Some days I legit think about unbinding my talk button tbh
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 03:47:13
February 03 2016 03:45 GMT
#155
So how exactly does one actually make the new ranked queue actually work and do its job. Because I've been trying to play adc for about 15 games now and I haven't gotten it once. Didn't Riot say the new queue system would give people their primary role a majority of the time?

I usually queue Bot/Fill or Bot/Support because those are my real roles. Honestly I'd like to just do Fill 100% of the time and play each role equally but I tried that for about 20games and I got support about 75% of the time and now I'm burned out on it. I tried doing Bot/Support but I got support 5 games in a row, trying Bot/Fill now, still support half the games but now I've gotten top half the time. Still not a single game of my primary role of ADC.

I've heard doing Bot/Mid gets me my role but I don't play mid at all and will probably do badly in that spot since I have the least amount of experience there.

Any suggestions on the new Dynamic Queue?
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 03 2016 05:03 GMT
#156


That Apdo level 1-2 play is DIRTY. I had to take a shower afterwards.

Also Kindred mid as a counter to Zed ... pretty cool, though why not just play Kayle instead?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 03 2016 05:09 GMT
#157
Well I am a support main so I don't think I have much to say on evidence. But it should be the case that because there is a trade off between match quality and search time and because some roles are more in demand than others then putting an "easy" match in your second slot (like support or fill) will increase the likelihood that the system says "ok, give him his second role".

So if you really really want a role then "fill" is the worst secondary and "support" the second worst.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
February 03 2016 05:43 GMT
#158
On February 03 2016 14:09 Goumindong wrote:
Well I am a support main so I don't think I have much to say on evidence. But it should be the case that because there is a trade off between match quality and search time and because some roles are more in demand than others then putting an "easy" match in your second slot (like support or fill) will increase the likelihood that the system says "ok, give him his second role".

So if you really really want a role then "fill" is the worst secondary and "support" the second worst.


So I guess I'm an outlier and will never get my preferred role...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 03 2016 05:56 GMT
#159
On February 03 2016 02:03 Slusher wrote:
tbh he's been complete garbage between any of my games or games I've seen on stream. If you saw one that actually contributed to a win and didn't feed or get carried I'd be interested to see a post game log.


saw one for the first time

not sure about much else but his ulti is fucking insane.

my friend was in complete disbelief that the first shot of ulti killed him at 25% hp at level 6.

as for me at level 11 it did 1k damage off 1 shot lol

in teamfights he was like a fucking adc xerath. pretty scary.

he was also pretty set up for success having massive frontliners (zac malphite) and his team making most of the proactive engages so it was pretty easy for him to just sit back and chuck some long range skills and then do cleanup.
TL/SKT
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 03 2016 05:58 GMT
#160
I've just been queuing up as top/jungle/support depending on what I feel like playing. I'm not really feeling the ranged champs(I never ADC) this season for whatever reason so it doesn't bother me too much regardless of what role I get.

Support probably is like 50/50 with top/jungle, and otherwise I feel like I tended to get my main role.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
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