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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 23 2016 01:39 GMT
#501
I'm hoping Renegades sister team's in Ohq and mah boy Freeze can go back to EU. The thought of a Vandeeze bot lane makes me all tingly.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
April 23 2016 02:40 GMT
#502
Renegades with Ohq Seraph Ninja would contest for top 5 easily, now just need to get rid of the NA deadweights or at least get decent players and they set.
xd
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 23 2016 02:50 GMT
#503
On April 23 2016 11:40 Skitter wrote:
Renegades with Ohq Seraph Ninja would contest for top 5 easily, now just need to get rid of the NA deadweights or at least get decent players and they set.


story of every na team lol
Carrilord has arrived.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
April 23 2016 02:55 GMT
#504
On April 23 2016 11:50 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 11:40 Skitter wrote:
Renegades with Ohq Seraph Ninja would contest for top 5 easily, now just need to get rid of the NA deadweights or at least get decent players and they set.


story of every na team lol

GBM still stuck in the zoo, nothing new
xd
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
April 23 2016 03:53 GMT
#505
On April 23 2016 11:40 Skitter wrote:
Renegades with Ohq Seraph Ninja would contest for top 5 easily, now just need to get rid of the NA deadweights or at least get decent players and they set.


Dexter should jungle for that team :>
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
April 23 2016 21:26 GMT
#506
Welp, I guess it's official now. SKT are completely invincible. They've lost 1 Bo5 in like 1.5 years
Platinum Support GOD
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 23 2016 22:05 GMT
#507
I think Forgiven is pretty good, but things just never work out for him. Whether it's because of him or because of general bad luck is hard to tell, but I don't actually agree with him parting H2K, there's no better team to join for him unless OG or G2 decided to go full yolo.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 23 2016 22:57 GMT
#508
It isn't Forgiven choosing to leave, it's H2K looking for options that fit their team better.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 24 2016 02:31 GMT
#509
Forgiven is like TO or Chad Johnson. Elite at a skill position, but his attitude and personality means he just doesn't get it that the team's strategy should rarely revolve around him.

I like the TO comp because he carried SK that one year, just like TO did for the Eagles, but then it all imploded.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 03:39:49
April 24 2016 03:38 GMT
#510
That's the thing though, they don't have an issue with him when it comes to professional and interpersonal matters. It's purely his style of play doesn't fit the team.

Meanwhile the TO situation happened because he wanted to renegotiate after a single year, which he only got the contract(as low as it was for his skill) because of his shit attitude in San Fran.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 24 2016 05:42 GMT
#511
His style of play is his attitude. He is inflexible, just like TO complaining about getting targets. Just because forgiven isn't doing sit ups on a driveway doesn't mean he isn't essentially the same. No good player bounces around this much without having inter personal issues, even if its not confirmed it happened at H2K.

Anyone have the Marin quote about picking Maokai?
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 24 2016 08:57 GMT
#512
His style isn't his "attitude" at all. Everybody has things that they do better or worse. For the style of ADC that H2K needs, based around the construction of the rest of their roster, Forgiven just doesn't fit regardless of his willingness or attitude to do it.

Bringing up previous teams is a silly thing, since we know why he was removed from those teams: CW because of year ban, SK because of interpersonal issues, and Gambit probably because of the 4 game ban that stopped them from escaping relegation and/or making playoffs. Nobody is denying those issues existed with those teams.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 24 2016 16:15 GMT
#513
On April 24 2016 17:57 Gahlo wrote:
His style isn't his "attitude" at all. Everybody has things that they do better or worse. For the style of ADC that H2K needs, based around the construction of the rest of their roster, Forgiven just doesn't fit regardless of his willingness or attitude to do it.

Bringing up previous teams is a silly thing, since we know why he was removed from those teams: CW because of year ban, SK because of interpersonal issues, and Gambit probably because of the 4 game ban that stopped them from escaping relegation and/or making playoffs. Nobody is denying those issues existed with those teams.


Forg1ven never was banned for a year in CPHW.
If CW didn't want to let him go, it's not his problem.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 24 2016 17:58 GMT
#514
On April 25 2016 01:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 17:57 Gahlo wrote:
His style isn't his "attitude" at all. Everybody has things that they do better or worse. For the style of ADC that H2K needs, based around the construction of the rest of their roster, Forgiven just doesn't fit regardless of his willingness or attitude to do it.

Bringing up previous teams is a silly thing, since we know why he was removed from those teams: CW because of year ban, SK because of interpersonal issues, and Gambit probably because of the 4 game ban that stopped them from escaping relegation and/or making playoffs. Nobody is denying those issues existed with those teams.


Forg1ven never was banned for a year in CPHW.
If CW didn't want to let him go, it's not his problem.

Wasn't the reason he was removed from CW because the Riot ban for being a toxic shitter? In that case, yes, his attitude did get him removed from the team.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 18:05:59
April 24 2016 18:05 GMT
#515
On April 25 2016 02:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 01:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 24 2016 17:57 Gahlo wrote:
His style isn't his "attitude" at all. Everybody has things that they do better or worse. For the style of ADC that H2K needs, based around the construction of the rest of their roster, Forgiven just doesn't fit regardless of his willingness or attitude to do it.

Bringing up previous teams is a silly thing, since we know why he was removed from those teams: CW because of year ban, SK because of interpersonal issues, and Gambit probably because of the 4 game ban that stopped them from escaping relegation and/or making playoffs. Nobody is denying those issues existed with those teams.


Forg1ven never was banned for a year in CPHW.
If CW didn't want to let him go, it's not his problem.

Wasn't the reason he was removed from CW because the Riot ban for being a toxic shitter? In that case, yes, his attitude did get him removed from the team.


LLL is more toxic than Forg1ven.

Riot only fined him in 2014 but he hadn't missed a single game and then he wanted to leave to Gambit, but CW didn't allow it and kept him on the bench, despite Amazing leaving freely in the same time.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 24 2016 18:06 GMT
#516
Diamondprox is not returning to UOL for the Summer Split.

Farewell, my dear Unicorns of Love! Even though we only played 2 LCS weeks on stage, we've spent much more other time together, and I'll hardly forget it. Never before I've seen the organization and the roster together to be so willing to improve and succeed, at the same time being so respectful and friendly to each other.
I learned a lot during our time together, improved both as a player and a person, and had such a great time being there... It's saddening to realise that all of this ended so early only due to circumstances beyond our control. I knew it was a bit risky for me to keep playing in Europe, but I have no regrets in this case.
And going forward I wish the best of luck to my lovely Unicorns, hope they stomp my beloved region meamwhile I'll be making my way through another great one.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 24 2016 18:30 GMT
#517
looks like visa of mother russia relegades diamond into wildcard regions

unless NA challenger buys him, not sure if there's a team without two koreans still.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 24 2016 19:28 GMT
#518
Apex Gaming has purchased Team Dignitas' challenger spot in NA in order to form a second team, thus pretty much marking the end of Team Dignitas participation in League for the immediate future.

Interesting roster info of note:
Apex Gaming has bought the spot with the intentions to build a second team under its brand. Whether any of the Team Dignitas players stick around on Apex's new team is uncertain, although jungler Thomas "Kirei" Yuen is currently looking for another team and support Alan "KiWiKiD" Nguyen has plans to join NRG Esports as its starting support, sources say.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 24 2016 21:35 GMT
#519
On April 24 2016 07:57 Gahlo wrote:
It isn't Forgiven choosing to leave, it's H2K looking for options that fit their team better.

With every other player we would simply say he got kicked.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 22:45:15
April 24 2016 22:43 GMT
#520
On April 25 2016 06:35 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 07:57 Gahlo wrote:
It isn't Forgiven choosing to leave, it's H2K looking for options that fit their team better.

With every other player we would simply say he got kicked.

I'm just using the terminology that H2K is using because they know the reputation that Forgiven has accrued and doesn't want to add another negative mark on it.
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