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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:41:56
December 16 2015 03:41 GMT
#201
I can definitely see FQC over Athenes on Lux in matchups where the active stops enemy aggression.

For example, vs Cassiopeia, if you miss a Q she can usually dive on you and force you out of lane. But with FQC I feel like if you miss Q you just pop ghosts and walk away.

I don't think that removing the gold gen kills it at all, I think it just makes it more about the active.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
DGA
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel7 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 07:21:34
December 16 2015 07:19 GMT
#202
On December 15 2015 05:15 nafta wrote:
You really don't need a setup. Honestly her only problem is her passive is too hard to hit.

That is just how I shitpost.

Right now most mage supports are really good in lane and overall honestly. Just because they die easier than before if you fuckup hard isn't the end of the world. FQC is just way too good.

Also compared to last season where everyone went 0/9/21 now precision+thunderlord/windspeaker is such a big difference.


It means alot. The risk reward ratio is heavily against you this time around(unless you are brandy with his godly damage off eveything). Sona/nami/lulu/jenny/zyra all have issues now, if we leave the 100%-0% thing aside(since brandy for one also has this) then the issue is i feel because of new items/masteries/new champs/champ reworks you get less for your skills than you used to. Shields and heals are super meh, poke can be somehwat negated by relic shield/vamp mastery, and out of lane you need to play it perfect clutch skills or your team is going to to suffer.


You can stil do well on them, but you dont actually gain anything for having that way more risk on you. This is how i feel in games now:
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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 11:14:26
December 16 2015 11:12 GMT
#203
I barely played Nami, Lulu and Zyra support this preseason, but I played some Sona and she felt stronger than ever. Borderline op even. Her laneing is insanely strong and she makes good use of the increased gold for supports. Shields and heals are stronger than last season. Spellthief's is way stronger than before. Less tp toplaners is also great for Sona as you will always be pushing with her.

Her winrate is also higher than ever. Actually, her winrate is one of the highest in the game right now.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 16 2015 11:15 GMT
#204
Same. Mage supports are just better than tanks right now purely because of the fqc.
DGA
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel7 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 14:09:26
December 16 2015 14:04 GMT
#205
I never take winrate into account when discussing anything. The fact that other randomers are doing well or not with a given champion doesn't mean anything to me.

Can i add you guys in game and you show me how it's done?,really need all the help i can get on this, i find her unplayable
Marstorius wins
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 16 2015 14:04 GMT
#206
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 16 2015 14:12 GMT
#207
Can't really give a real opinion on sona cuz nobody picks her at my mmr. Reminds me of garen. Everyone talks about how good he is and links champion.gg yet I saw a grand total of 1 in 300 or so games.
DGA
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel7 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 14:27:56
December 16 2015 14:16 GMT
#208
Eh it's nami, lulu, jenny even too, all the kewl squishis healers. i'd put soraka hear too but new mastery make her indirectly fine. Maybe it's just me not moving on with the times and adjusting my play somehow, we'll see
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 16 2015 15:00 GMT
#209
I mean, you can't simultaneously say that you don't care about win rates, and also complain that Sona is underpowered. Platinum+ players win more with Sona than literally any other support. That strongly suggests that if you are having problems, then the problem is on your end and not that she is underpowered.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
DGA
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel7 Posts
December 16 2015 15:08 GMT
#210
On December 17 2015 00:00 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I mean, you can't simultaneously say that you don't care about win rates, and also complain that Sona is underpowered. Platinum+ players win more with Sona than literally any other support. That strongly suggests that if you are having problems, then the problem is on your end and not that she is underpowered.


Yeah it could very well be the case, that's why i asked before to add some people up soi can see if it's indeed my play that's obsolete. But win rates in genral i pay no attention to, only to my experience
Marstorius wins
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
December 16 2015 15:30 GMT
#211
Feel free to add me (same name as here), but I'm unsure how much I'll play in the next days/weeks.

(Also I'm not quite as high ranked as Nafta if that matters to you)
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 16 2015 17:07 GMT
#212
Well I'm at complete shitlord Elo nowadays but for what it's worth I laned with a decent Sona the other day, it was LITERALLY complete faceroll against 2 squishies, I haven't tried her but she seems to do very well with the changes
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 00:10:24
December 17 2015 00:10 GMT
#213
Well for other supports that are actually really good cheesy, you should try ali with thunderlord's, and for full cheese mode, open the ap item. Enjoy free thunderlord's with almost every headbutt pulv combo.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9146 Posts
December 17 2015 03:52 GMT
#214
I hadn't played Co-op vs AI and Blind pick since Season 1 but a friend recently started League and I went through all the stages with him and holy shit it's like the wild west in there.

Every other game there's bots buying boots first and suiciding down the middle over and over again. Every game people arguing non stop about "ks-ing" and other ridiculous things, calling eachother "retards", "faggots", etc, writing in all chat report X for blablabla then X responds saying no, report Y for blablala.

I don't know how this game keeps growing if new players have to go through all that bullshit. This is on EUW btw, dunno if it's the same in NA and other servers
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 04:46:49
December 17 2015 04:46 GMT
#215
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 17 2015 05:58 GMT
#216
On December 17 2015 12:52 Dan HH wrote:
I hadn't played Co-op vs AI and Blind pick since Season 1 but a friend recently started League and I went through all the stages with him and holy shit it's like the wild west in there.

Every other game there's bots buying boots first and suiciding down the middle over and over again. Every game people arguing non stop about "ks-ing" and other ridiculous things, calling eachother "retards", "faggots", etc, writing in all chat report X for blablabla then X responds saying no, report Y for blablala.

I don't know how this game keeps growing if new players have to go through all that bullshit. This is on EUW btw, dunno if it's the same in NA and other servers

If you're playing with him, you cause other smurfs to appear in his games. Most smurfs are created by people banned on their main accounts.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 17 2015 06:56 GMT
#217
snowdown store is somewhat of a letdown. I got an irelia skin and lulu skin, but 2 lux skins I won't use (I already have sailormoon), thresh(which I played like twice), and shyvana(have frost) is kinda sad
Porouscloud - NA LoL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 17 2015 07:04 GMT
#218
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 17 2015 07:47 GMT
#219
Mine was similar to Amui, it picked all stuff I play, but all worse than the one I currently use
Carrilord has arrived.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 17 2015 08:34 GMT
#220
So I tried Sona

It hurts

I like it
I got five reasons for you to shut up
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